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Random Musings: The Bus-Ride to Work
1) I envision a town in which I'm the mayor and Yamato is my Pardoner. Why? Because we get all the benefits of VE lynching scum on D1, in all likelihood getting shot N1 and all that jazz, and none of the pitfalls of having scum in the office of either Mayor OR Pardoner.
I know what you're thinking: "But VE! Surely you jest! Yamato has made it abundantly clear that he's not afraid of using the Pardoner role - he's clearly the worst candidate for it by far!"
I'll go on the record here (again) and explain my stance on the Pardoner role (again). The Pardoner mechanic is just another mechanic that town has at its disposal to get information and that scum has at its disposal to confound town. And while it's generally accepted logic that preventing a lynch, ANY lynch is a bad idea, I hesitate to say that the role is, strictly speaking, anti-town. Like, if you believe that Yamato is town then you have to believe that IF he uses the role, it will be for a reason that he has deemed pro-town. Maybe he's wrong, maybe he's right, maybe he's scum lying to your face - but you get just as much information from that action out of Yamato as you get from the flip of a player. It's not info you can take to the bank and lynch people over, but it's certainly info that you can use to help solve the game.
I'm not immediately repulsed by Yamato saying he's not afraid to use the power, and it gives me warm fuzzies about his alignment that he said it at all. I don't think he'll use the power all willy-nilly and I'm totally fine with him having it.
2) I will not be stating my lynch choice outright. I will give an array of candidates and will lynch into this list, but my actual target will remain unknown. I feel like in this way scum will be less inclined to help me along if my lynch choice is bad or oppose me if my lynch choice is good. It takes actionable info away from scum, but still allows town to get a feel for where I stand so they can choose to vote me or not. Right now (before catching up) that list is this:
Grackaroni, StorrZerg, Sharrant, and Skanjab1s
3) I'm reading over the thread after this post: I haven't caught up from when I left last night and a lot has happened. If I miss a question directed at me or something just bear with me and ask it again.
4) There was a limited amount of venom and hatred in the thread at the time I left. There was a lot of aggravation and frustration but that's to be expected, but a fairly small amount of actual general poor behavior. I liked that and I hope that it continues through my readthrough of the thread and beyond.
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Actual content to follow. Stay tuned.
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On November 16 2013 05:44 supersoft wrote: what the hell. Are you high? Always friend. You're going to have to elaborate.
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On November 16 2013 05:48 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 05:44 supersoft wrote: what the hell. Are you high? Always friend. You're going to have to elaborate. I already elaborated this? this is a terrible idea. I'm not saying I want him to use the power, I'm saying I'm not opposed to him deciding how/whether to use it. I mean, clearly you're going to disagree with this statement as you're opposed to his lynch choice (I assume) because he's presently talking about offing BC, but for my part I trust Yamato's judgement with the Pardoner power.
Right now I'm way more sure about Yamato's alignment than I am about either you OR BC. I lean town on you both but I'm solidly town on Pardoner. I don't share the ideal that we can rig removing the power, so I want Yamato to have it. Does this make more sense to you in the context of it coming from me and not me speaking as the will of town?
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solidly town on Yamato, not Pardoner. XD
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On November 16 2013 05:59 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 05:55 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 05:48 supersoft wrote:On November 16 2013 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2013 05:44 supersoft wrote: what the hell. Are you high? Always friend. You're going to have to elaborate. I already elaborated this? this is a terrible idea. I'm not saying I want him to use the power, I'm saying I'm not opposed to him deciding how/whether to use it. I mean, clearly you're going to disagree with this statement as you're opposed to his lynch choice (I assume) because he's presently talking about offing BC, but for my part I trust Yamato's judgement with the Pardoner power. Right now I'm way more sure about Yamato's alignment than I am about either you OR BC. I lean town on you both but I'm solidly town on Pardoner. I don't share the ideal that we can rig removing the power, so I want Yamato to have it. Does this make more sense to you in the context of it coming from me and not me speaking as the will of town? I don't care about the pardoner power. I care about the bulletprovevest. You're throwing this game right now, VE. Stop being so dramatic I'm just stating my opinion - an unpopular one that will probably lose me votes. Take a chill pill sir.
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Like he wouldn't get the vest I would - and frankly I don't care if you don't think I'm worth saving, because I know that I am. Jerk.
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OH PARDONER GETS ONE TOO
God I'm dumb I need to read OPs. Okay nevermind scratch that.
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Like I'm not opposed to him getting a vest, but yeah I wasn't factoring in the second vest in my musing.
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On November 15 2013 23:37 Sharrant wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 23:34 Holyflare wrote:On November 15 2013 23:30 Sharrant wrote:
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@VE I still want to know what you actually meant with your post on Hiro. If you answered it somewhere, I didn't see it (and I'd appreciate it if you could point it out), but you've referenced me several times and not clarified it. Getting annoying.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:38 Holyflare wrote:@VE you talked about how hiro has a similar mindset to prplhz here: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote:My FOOLPROOF mayor candidacy Plan™: step 1: Vote for me for mayor ^__^ step 2: Vote OOHCHILD* for pardner. + Show Spoiler +Sorry VE, I lied about you being my running mate  step 3: I lynch OOHCHILD, taking out a polrizing player, and a pro-scum role day 1. + Show Spoiler +*I reserve the right to lynch someone other than OHHCHILD should a better target apper *I reserve the right to vote for a strong scumhunter for mayor who follows this plan. ##Vote: hiro protagonist Ewwww...aww hiro why? WHY?! You remember prplhz right? Dude. Policy-lynch is my scum-tell for him. AND YOU GUYS PLAY WITH A SIMILAR MINDSET!!! I THINK I WANT TO LYNCH HIRO PROTAGONIST!!!! How certain were you of this point or was it just a jokey remark? I ask this because after you had already criticised him of this he still continued posting more policy lynching, just in a different light, re:pardoner lynching. his reply was: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:38 Holyflare wrote:@VE you talked about how hiro has a similar mindset to prplhz here: + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 09:14 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 09:12 hiro protagonist wrote:My FOOLPROOF mayor candidacy Plan™: step 1: Vote for me for mayor ^__^ step 2: Vote OOHCHILD* for pardner. + Show Spoiler +Sorry VE, I lied about you being my running mate  step 3: I lynch OOHCHILD, taking out a polrizing player, and a pro-scum role day 1. + Show Spoiler +*I reserve the right to lynch someone other than OHHCHILD should a better target apper *I reserve the right to vote for a strong scumhunter for mayor who follows this plan. ##Vote: hiro protagonist Ewwww...aww hiro why? WHY?! You remember prplhz right? Dude. Policy-lynch is my scum-tell for him. AND YOU GUYS PLAY WITH A SIMILAR MINDSET!!! I THINK I WANT TO LYNCH HIRO PROTAGONIST!!!! How certain were you of this point or was it just a jokey remark? I ask this because after you had already criticised him of this he still continued posting more policy lynching, just in a different light, re:pardoner lynching. It was a srs but not srs kind of thing. I do think he and prplhz play similarly and think about the game in a similar way. However no, I'd never base a lynch solely on this. It was tongue in cheek because I was saying I wanted to lynch Hiro for suggest a policy lynch - as policy. My humor is really dry, sorry guys.  Wonderful! Thank you for finding that for me. Thank you for the clarification, VE, I had thought it was a joke post, but I wanted to be sure. :-) VE, how do you feel about lynching Rayn? I'm not a fan of lynching rayn today. He's at the very least providing his opinion on things and that's more than a lot of players so far.
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On November 16 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote: i suggest you reread the thread, convince yourself that I am town; and then you come back and we play as a team. I'm doing a contextless series of filter-dives and seeing where that leads me first.
The way I work is I filter people whom I do NOT have a townread on, see what I see, and if there are posts I don't like or I want to see in detail I go to that post and read stuff around it to see what's there.
It's not super intuitive, but it takes me to posts I might otherwise miss.
A little later on I'll do a full reread. But I'm fully willing to work with you regardless of my present read on you.
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On November 16 2013 06:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2013 06:07 supersoft wrote: i suggest you reread the thread, convince yourself that I am town; and then you come back and we play as a team. Posts like this make me think Supersoft knows VE's alignment. Anyone reading the thread knows VE's alignment Cheese.
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Thirty people are hanging on your every post Storr. Now is the time to make an impact.
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There also isn't nearly enough talk about Pandain for my liking.
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Also my heart weeps at the lack of BlazingHand.
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Yamato has LoneMeow done or said anything in your mason with him?
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Would you go so far as to say it makes you a sad...Pandain?
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On November 16 2013 08:06 Risen wrote: I just wish I could understand revealing that Lone had masoned... I just don't get it. Makes me think yamato is the scum of the VE/yamato combo. I just wish I could understand why you think there has to be scum between VE/Yamato.
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On November 16 2013 08:08 StorrZerg wrote: whats lynch bait? not sure i understand... Someone who looks like a good lynch regardless of their alignment. In the context of someone "going after lynchbait" the presumption is that the one doing the accusing is scum and the "lynchbait" is town.
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On November 16 2013 08:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:VE/BC wombo combo for elections?  I could see this. I could also see VE/SS. But your vote should fall somewhere in that triumvirate.
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On November 16 2013 08:22 Koshi wrote: You still believe in those 4 reads VE? Because I am not the biggest fan of those. I'll provide an updated list soon - I'm awaiting input from a select few. What do you think about Pandain? Sneak Peek: Pandain is on the new list.
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