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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:21 GMT
#2195
First you want peopleabove the lurker threshhold and now you want active!? MAKE UP YOUR MIND. I CAN'T CHRONICLE THE HISTORY OF THIS GAME WITH BOTH THOSE REQUESTS (ACTUALLY, I CAN, BUT THAT WILL MEAN I WRITE TWO MEDIUM SIZED POSTS AND YOU SEEM TO PREFER A SINGLE POST)
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:34 GMT
#2197
That's a whole different ball game.

People who have intentionally posted in such a way to avoid them being talked about....BH has posted in a way to avoid being ACTUALLY discussed, because he's just been trolling. Coag too.

Otherwise, nobody in particular is posting a good bit with the INTENTION of not being talked about. People who posted a little bit but DUCKED discussion, generally not due to their own machinations:

Risen somewhat fits the bill but I think he's town.
artanis, some posts, some reads, but never really discussed by other bros.

Mattchew, and this is odd, but he posted a little and got discussed a little, but never...at the same time? There's discussion on him early but limited to "he ain't do much" and whether that's townie or scummy for him. He occasionally crops up, but never really in major scum lists or as a big suspect, and never as a big townread. He's neither for me. The only mattchew scum game I remember well, he accidentally claimed scum. I prefer to read him later on, and in relation to other flips.

If you're asking me for scumreads, I don't think the folks I look at fit into the category of posting a good bit but always slipping analysis. That just ain't where my reads lie.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:39 GMT
#2199
Kush/OOHCHILD (what do we call you?), if you're still around.

This game is a salsa. The players are all specific ingredients in the salsa.

Who is the tomatoes? Not the most flavorful, but ever-present and they hold the salsa together.
Who is the jalapeno? Not the spiciest pepper ever, but they stand out and have a little kick to em.
Who is the seeds and ribs of the peppers? They make the salsa taste bad and get thrown out.
Who is the onion? You might cry if you cut him, and he helps flavor the salsa.
Who is the salt? There isn't a whole lot of him by volume, but his contributions bring out the flavors of the other ingredients?
Who is the ghost pepper? I don't know why marv puts ghost peppers in his salsa, but this is the spiciest player in the thread. Very little of him, but SO SPICY DO NOT EAT DANGER DANGER.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:42 GMT
#2203
On November 17 2013 13:39 Coagulation wrote:
I honestly dont give a shit if anyone talks about me.
Yo, I'm roleplaying thrawn's fantasy questions right now. You just happen to be one of those people that didn't really get talked about much. Which is a thing he sort of maybe asked about. It's da troof. And da troof will set you free.

If I ask you about somebody but try to make it entertaining, will you post real thoughts?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:43 GMT
#2204
On November 17 2013 13:41 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 13:39 austinmcc wrote:
Kush/OOHCHILD (what do we call you?), if you're still around.

This game is a salsa. The players are all specific ingredients in the salsa.

Who is the tomatoes? Not the most flavorful, but ever-present and they hold the salsa together.
Who is the jalapeno? Not the spiciest pepper ever, but they stand out and have a little kick to em.
Who is the seeds and ribs of the peppers? They make the salsa taste bad and get thrown out.
Who is the onion? You might cry if you cut him, and he helps flavor the salsa.
Who is the salt? There isn't a whole lot of him by volume, but his contributions bring out the flavors of the other ingredients?
Who is the ghost pepper? I don't know why marv puts ghost peppers in his salsa, but this is the spiciest player in the thread. Very little of him, but SO SPICY DO NOT EAT DANGER DANGER.

ask me a real question and I will answer
That's not really how this works. This is semi-real question. You're allowed to semi-answer. None of the answers are boobytrapped, you don't blow up mid-sentence if you type the wrong name.

I have to start here, and any real questions will follow from this. Sorry.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:50 GMT
#2206
On November 17 2013 13:49 OOHCHILD wrote:
im in a bad mood and your shitty questions don't amuse me. bye.
Sorry. I'm tipsy and they amuse me!

You should answer them later when you're in a better mood. Like, actually should. We haven't played together much, and I want to try and poke around some odd stuff to get a read on you.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:53 GMT
#2208
On November 17 2013 13:51 OOHCHILD wrote:
what im thinking about now is why would BH play that way as a tracker. last i caught up to was his claim at page 92 or so so I dont know if that question has been brought up since then.
Do you believe that BH is a tracker? I know you're getting at that, but I still think it's nonsensical and there's no real reason to believe it.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:55 GMT
#2211
On November 17 2013 13:54 Onegu wrote:
Austinmcc can I be the salt? I love salt. Anyway my plan for today is to finish up the filters and my notebook. Then be ready with my thoughts for before I sleep and the day post.
That question is kush-specific.

Only he has the power to decide whether you're the salt or not.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:06 GMT
#2215
On November 17 2013 13:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah that's what I was looking for

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On November 17 2013 13:34 austinmcc wrote:
People who have intentionally posted in such a way to avoid them being talked about....BH has posted in a way to avoid being ACTUALLY discussed, because he's just been trolling.


dibs on BH I got this

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On November 17 2013 13:34 austinmcc wrote:
If you're asking me for scumreads, I don't think the folks I look at fit into the category of posting a good bit but always slipping analysis. That just ain't where my reads lie.


lol you should have just said this o.0

So where do your reads lie and what do you think VE's choice of lynch says about his alignment?

i'm out for tonight. my only experience in a large game was as scum and the 100 pages of what austin told me amounts to a lot of trolling/fighting looks like a headache. hopefully 420 will help with that lol

VE please bestow that mind meld upon me

BH whats up talk to me baby
VE depends on future play and somewhat on why he chose his lynch. I expected him to play things close to the vest, then reveal a little targetting info late. He didn't. That bugs me. But thef act that he's apparently masoned and there's a weird mason-chain could explain weirdness. And me being bugged isn't me having a scumread, it's a thing I can't really explain and piece together as either alignment.

Right now, I think cheese could very well be scum. He's not just inactive, he's inactive while seemingly reading the thread at the times he's checked in. He's also...checking in on thread at times (that one 40 minute period), but not actually contributing anything despite being around a while. Cheese has played active scum (i played with active-scum cheese), cheese can play inactive town, but the fact that he seems to be reading yet doing very little, and sometimes being around but doing very little, makes me a sad panda.

I think the reasons folks find rayn scummy are legit, and rayn might be scum. I dunno what to make of Pandain after magical sandwich mafia, but he's ... somewhat of a person of interest. His play this game DOES NOT match his play as scum in Sandwichville, but he has been getting hung up on or talking about a lot of stuff I consider side issues (BH claim, how many masons/which masons are scum). That interests me, makes me keep watch on him.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:08 GMT
#2217
On November 17 2013 13:59 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 13:53 austinmcc wrote:
On November 17 2013 13:51 OOHCHILD wrote:
what im thinking about now is why would BH play that way as a tracker. last i caught up to was his claim at page 92 or so so I dont know if that question has been brought up since then.
Do you believe that BH is a tracker? I know you're getting at that, but I still think it's nonsensical and there's no real reason to believe it.


so you think he is town but lying about being a tracker? i was thinking of the situation as he is either tracker or he's scum.

I don't have a lot of experience with BH but he is the only person I find especially scummy at this point. Honestly I have had zero time to actually think about the game and make cases because it's been so hard for me to just read everything once.
I think that his claim is entirely untrustworthy and doesn't really say anything about his alignment. He could fakeclaim as either alignment, although I don't support him doing so. Maybe it's true also, but ... there's no real reason to believe it.

In an odd way, I would suggest answering my salsa questions. You don't have to read the whole game to build the salsa. And you might realize that one of the characteristics about is something you find maybe scummy, then you can go filter that person and see whether the filter matches your feelings about general playstyle so far.

It's another angle to attack the game and making reads from, and is worth answering.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:10 GMT
#2220
On November 17 2013 14:09 OOHCHILD wrote:
im never answering the salsa question
You are. You just don't know it yet.

2/3 of the people who have ducked my questions have been scum.

The 1/3 was Waveofshadow.

You're either mafia or Waveofshadow if you duck my question. Do you really want that? Deep down...do you want that?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:12 GMT
#2221
What if I were batman and I dangled you over the edge of a building while holding your feet and I told you that I'd drop you if you didn't answer the salsa question?

You're saying you would refuse to answer batman?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:15 GMT
#2223
You are making me sad.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 05:30 GMT
#2225
OOHCHILD, in the phrase "rubber baby buggy bumpers", what is your favorite word?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 15:56 GMT
#2286
On November 17 2013 23:21 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 20:56 supersoft wrote:
Mocsta would have been a better lynch, since we had many opinions on him.

SS,

Frankly I expect better from you. I thought you were meant to be good at this game?
Instead you are listening to the words of a guy that had a tunneled outlook on me before I even posted yesterday; and a guy that is clearly scum -- The latter I will be adding more towards at the resolution part of this cycle.


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On November 17 2013 03:35 austinmcc wrote:
Mocsta, any particular reason you asked supersoft about hopeless1der early on? Why ask super about that? And what sort of answer would you expect him to give + how would that influence anything?

I haven't seen Hopeless troll before. In my opinion his trolling at face value felt like he was posting for the sake of posting. It was an observation and after the flak i copped with storrzerg i wanted a second opinion.
Super is meant to be analytical so I asked him.
I thought this was all clear cut in the original post?
As for the second part, it was an observation. I dunno where it was leading.
Since then, Hopeless has done nothing but also seems to be in a position where perhaps he should ask for a replacement?? What more is there to read into him? As useless as Mattchew et all.
I asked both you and supersoft about this because it was just a little oddity for me. Like, 14-15 hours after hopeless posts some nothingposts, you want supersoft's take on those nothingposts. + Show Spoiler +
On November 15 2013 22:50 Mocsta wrote:
@Supersoft, - 2 questions
(1) Is VE still dodgy, or has artanis taken his stead?
+
(2) What do you think of Hopeless1der?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1der

I am aware that he was only present during the very early game where trolling is common; however, I find this quote unusual for town to make.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run?

Maybe this is written very dry and the joke is going over my head; but I am interpreting this as giving contemplation to voting VE.

BTW, which occurs here:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:49 Coagulation wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Any campaign for kush gets a solid "yeah, no" from me. No offense to kush but I did kind of tell yamato i wanted to win.


kush is really good at scum hunting actually. probably better than 90% of the players here. Hes just non communique

*must...not...feeed....troll*

##Vote: VisceraEyes


My issue is that, I don't think a townie would given any sort of consideration to that criteria for considering a mayor.
Fact is, town want in a mayor someone they think is a good player + standing out as town + has identified why their lynch choice is a solid candidate.
You're a deep analyser of motivation; do you agree that the above is not evident in the mindset of Hopelss1der?

TOO LAZY TO FIND HIS RESPONSE RIGHT NOW. IT'S IN HIS FILTER AND MINE, TOO. HE SAYS HE HAS TO THINK ABOUT IT.


If he likes those posts, he's being sillypants. If he thinks hopeless1der is 100% scum off those posts, then he's being sillypants. If he thinks those posts don't make hopeless look great because they're not doing anything and slightly trolly, congratulations, you got supersoft to admit his opinion is in line with everybody else's opinions, because nobody can really think otherwise about them.

It just feels like a question with a universal answer, one that doesn't go anywhere. And it's not an answer that says anything in particular about hopeless OR supersoft, it's just a question.

His response was that he would have to think about it, which again, I poked at him on. I produced more liters of drool last night in my sleep, just one night, than hopeless has produced posts this game. And none are particularly thought-provoking. But super wants to think about it. I found that odd.


THAT is why I ask you and supersoft, not because I think there's more to read into hopeless. But because I think there's almost nothing to read into those posts, so your question doesn't appear to go anywhere to me, and his answer makes it look like he's procrastinating or uninterested in doing a task that would take 4 seconds and is useless, rather than just giving the useless read/comment/telling you your question is dumb.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 15:56 GMT
#2287
OOHCHILD, why are you resistant to my questioning? If you're willing to give a srs answer to that.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 15:58 GMT
#2289
On November 18 2013 00:58 OOHCHILD wrote:
because your dumb questions are a waste of time and space?
If I give you a decent reason to answer, will you consider that?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 16:00 GMT
#2293
?

Is that to me?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 16:10 GMT
#2296
On November 18 2013 01:07 Spaghetticus wrote:
Wait who is tunneling Kush?

People I'm fucking wired. Talk to me guys.
Throw out all the mayor stuff, people that ran, people that won, all that.

Is there any single post in the game that has you thinking someone is almost almost almost certainly town/scum?

Also, I will talk with you, but ball's in your court for right now. I've got an hour, you're wired, ask me some questions.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 16:12 GMT
#2298
On November 18 2013 01:09 Spaghetticus wrote:
When does Blazing hand usually start playing? I'm interested in his take once he finishes with his survival scheme.
Generally earlier than this. He's usually got some posts, and some decent posts, on D1 in the games that I have played with him. I don't find it particularly telling about his alignment, except for a nagging thought that maybe it's an indicator of assassinyness. That's an outside shot though, and I don't expect him or others to play assassiny, whatever that actually means (in my head, playing to avoid getting killed by any faction by normal means, sometimes town BH looks very town and gets shot N1, and assassinBH wouldn't really want that although he could say he was protected or whatever).
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