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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#1895
You are way, way overthinking BH trolling, and way, way overthinking when you try to draw connections based on someone's trolly claim or fakeclaim.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 20:23 GMT
#1897
Like out of all the things that have happened today, the important thing to look at and draw conclusions from is not BH posting.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#1904
On November 17 2013 05:27 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 05:20 austinmcc wrote:
On November 17 2013 05:15 supersoft wrote:
On November 17 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote:
Also super, I know your list includes a couple very low volume/contribution posters. Is cheesecake off the list because you think he's town, or just super duper forgettable and he should actually be on there?


I don't want to kill someone who doesnt participate at all, these guys can be town or scum you never ever know it for sure.
I know that if i get elected, I have to kill scum, to prevent the inevitable discussion whether I am scum for not killing scum or not.
Yes there are still some of these people on that list, but I am here and I will work on my scumreads until the deadline comes.
Okay, just checking. I haven't engaged you and am unsure on elected-you. Last time you got an extra life, I think you were short on time (you were rezzed as a ghost in some game we played where I was scum), and the game was a MESS, but it didn't go very well. I know our team initially killed you because you were onto someone or someones, but once you were confirmed town and alive again, it just didn't feel like you did much, and your reads got turned around.


I only remember i defended the shit out of some other ver (Foolishness or BC) and when i came back i think marv convinced me that he was scum, but he wasn't and I built a scumteam around him and failed completely :D
Yes, that was the worst game i ever played. I am not immune to mistakes. And even if you might think i am arrogant and that I have a huge Ego, I admit my mistakes and I am always ready to think twice about my reads.
+ I always trust my brain and not my heart. I never lynch someone because I don't like him and I never show mercy because I like someone.
No, that game was ridiculous. We let marv and foolishness fight, caused town to DISTRUST a mod-confirmed flip, and a couple other things. It's not fully indicative of your normal play. We were also in bureaucracy together (and both got banned ) and I had no problem with your play there.

I care mildly about ego/arrogance, only because I really do believe in happy atmospheres yielding good town results. I don't want you mayor because of that.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 21:07 GMT
#1936
On November 17 2013 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Everyone should vote for Supersoft. I'm not even joking, he's probably the only chance we have for getting an obviously town (to most everyone) decent analyst up in the role (no offense yamato) if we're for whatever reason having doubts about VE and BC.
Hey!
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 21:18 GMT
#1941
VE, whuddabout me?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 21:37 GMT
#1945
On November 17 2013 06:22 supersoft wrote:
please people discuss lynchtargets.

comment on these:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 05:39 supersoft wrote:
Grack, coagulation, Hopeless1der, Storr, hiro protagonist, Risen, OOHCHILD, pandain, mig

just a few sentences and a ranking on the following skala:
++ = town
+ = slightly town
0
- = suspicious
-- = scum



and everyone else you want to have eyes on.
Enough chattering. Go. reread!
Risen is ++.

He's not posted boatloads, but I was fine with his responses to me, and to some extent his last couple made it sound like he was engaging with me and also making an attempt to read me (calling me pro town but not necessarily town). Do like.

Storrzerg +

He posts his past game numbers at BC, engages him slightly, but doesn't FLIP OUT that he's being suspected, nor does he FLIP OUT and call BC terribad/scum/anything. There's not a ton in his filter, but that's worth small townie points with me. He didn't answer my moon question, which is incredibly scummy, but he did not continue to troll after that, from what I've seen, so oh well.

Hiro 0

Liked his early bit still, found it super townie. He's done nothing since. It tempers my read but I don't think he's fantastically scummy for it.

Hopeless / coag DON'T GET RANKINGS

Hopeless isn't playing this game. If he does nothing for another 72 hours, then he should get got. Coag is...also pretty much not playing, but without even half an excuse.

Will give grack a more substantive read, that's the one i find most interesting out of the ones not above.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 21:41 GMT
#1947
On November 17 2013 06:40 Coagulation wrote:
I can make excuses.

the sun was in my eyes.
I only wanted half-excuses.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 22:02 GMT
#1952
Grack is mildly townie I think? BC's right that he was very fluffy/trolly. Grack is right in saying
On November 16 2013 02:19 Grackaroni wrote:
You also I have been an abnormally active troll.


He also went and looked at Mattchew's profile or Mattchew in the Knowledge Repository, because he knew when past games were and number. Reads vaguely townie.

I would love for him to stop trolling at all and focus on the decent posts (he DOES have some non-trolly posts, a decent number). If we're smiting trolls, I'd rather smite other trolls. Overall, I actually like grack here.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 22:05 GMT
#1955
On November 17 2013 07:04 Koshi wrote:
Nobody from that supersoft inactive list should be lynched except for maybe Storrzerg. BH, rayn look like the 2 best candidates. I still prefer rayn over everybody. SS are you serious when you say Mig and Pandain are scum? Pandain isnt imo.
Cheesecake this game vs. Cheesecake in Mega Sandwich Mafia. Go!
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 16 2013 23:53 GMT
#2028
VE.

WE SHOULD TALK. IT WILL BE FUN. YES?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:04 GMT
#2035
On November 17 2013 08:58 Pandain wrote:
Austin who are you going to change your vote to
I want to talk to VE and see what is up with this. Would still like him for mayor.

Beyond that, would prefer SS to yam, would prefer me to both (rawr). I favor a VE mayor / SS pardoner scenario.

I think that you are putting a lot of words in VE's mouth though, because I don't see a good explanation here, and I don't like seeing semi-abdication without anything more. It's...off. I want to understand what exactly is going on and his reasons before I really want anyone else mayor.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:10 GMT
#2039
Pandain,

IF ve moved his vote because he's not as confident about his reads...

why is this a good thing? He has the option of voting someone else's reads, if he thinks supersoft has the best reads since sliced breadreads, he can just vote whoever SS wants but still be mayor. If he wants to explain his reads and why he's not confident, that's alright and gives people something to work with.

But only saying to vote super and that's the best chance of getting good analysis is...pewp. I'm happy if they have vests, but would prefer VE to have the double vote and the call on a double lynch. I have played more with him, am more familiar with him, and also selfishly believe he's more likely to speak with and listen to me. Supersoft is not going to promote the atmosphere I'd prefer, and I'd rather he not have the mayor bonus stuff.

But...do you believe that "not being confident in reads" is a good reason not to be mayor here?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:16 GMT
#2041
On November 17 2013 09:13 Pandain wrote:
Yeah because it's not only this lynch. It's future lynches since mayor gets double vote. Also they can live longer due to vest. I think it's pretty simple to see VE would rather see a SS mayor and so I'm pretty surprised you would still vote for him
Both get a vest, the vest is not an issue.

I see that VE wants people to vote SS, but his explanation is weak and I want to see more here.

I don't find it surprising. Even if I want VE mayor, I don't gotsta do what he wants. I don't care if he wants SS mayor, my vote's based on who I want as mayor.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:23 GMT
#2047
Unvoted me, voted supersoft.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:26 GMT
#2050
The voting is actually really neat. Either scum has no control whatsoever and barely even made a push, or someone's scum.

It'd be nice if there were more movement, but there have been basically two then three frontrunners without much in the way of a challenge. Used to WAY more legitimate candidates getting votes than this.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:36 GMT
#2057
On November 17 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
My vote is still up in the air. If you can make a decent case for somebody being scum than I will move my vote. Right now I think you will lynch random inactives with a bad chance of flipping scum and then eventually, if no scum are lynched, you will get lynched for winning the mayoral race. At least Yamato's scum play is bad enough that he won't be accused.

Right now, VE is the mayor and neither Yamato nor SS is lynching ANYBODY.

The question RIGHT NOW comes down to who you want protection on, unless you decide you want SS to have the lynch. If your vote is on Yamato, it's currently giving Yamato a vest over SS. That's the only effect (and pardoner but who cares). The lynch is entirely not up for grabs.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:40 GMT
#2061
On November 17 2013 09:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 09:36 austinmcc wrote:
On November 17 2013 09:35 Grackaroni wrote:
My vote is still up in the air. If you can make a decent case for somebody being scum than I will move my vote. Right now I think you will lynch random inactives with a bad chance of flipping scum and then eventually, if no scum are lynched, you will get lynched for winning the mayoral race. At least Yamato's scum play is bad enough that he won't be accused.

Right now, VE is the mayor and neither Yamato nor SS is lynching ANYBODY.

The question RIGHT NOW comes down to who you want protection on, unless you decide you want SS to have the lynch. If your vote is on Yamato, it's currently giving Yamato a vest over SS. That's the only effect (and pardoner but who cares). The lynch is entirely not up for grabs.

wait what? Is VE mayor already?
Votes are 8-8-8, in the order of VE > Yamato > SS

That means, in order of reaching votes (see the vote count), VE would be mayor, Yamato would be pardoner.

You can't vote again for yamato, so you can't give him the lynch. You can vote for SS, making it SS mayor, VE pardoner. You can vote for anyone but SS or yamato, making it VE mayor, SS pardoner.

But as of right now, with votes the way they are, neither yamato nor SS has control of the lynch. What is up for grabs, barring more votes on either of them, is the pardoner spot and that vest.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 00:48 GMT
#2068
On November 17 2013 09:46 Alakaslam wrote:
SuperSoft now in the lead. What hast thou to say?
Swapped over to VE, so now...it's either VE/yamato again, or if going up and then down puts you in the lead of a tie, it'd be VE/ss
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 03:03 GMT
#2185
People who are counting masons should stop, we can poke around that later as some die off and we've got a smaller pool to work with. I have also been contacted by a mason. So the pool is sizeable.

VE, why skan in particular? I see not giving a shit about helping us win, but why skan out of the group of players not helping us win?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 17 2013 04:12 GMT
#2192
On November 17 2013 12:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey austin.. or whoever but austin I specifically want you to answer this... can you give me a recap of D1 with emphasis on people who were at least above the lurker threshold, but not one the main talking points of D1 because of sneaky reasons?
7:23 AM. CHINATOWN, IN A SMALL CZECH CITY ON RIGEL 4 (CZECHOSLOVAKIA HAS COLONIZED RIGEL 4, DEAL WITH IT).

Thread starts remarkably active. Grack trolling, VE looking decent, yamato looking decent, even oats posting a decent amount. A lot of not much happens, but VE comes out looking good from it and appears to be a mayoral frontrunner.

1/4 of the way through D1, rayn and HolyFlare get into a pooping contest. We confirm that both can, indeed, poop, and both can poop copious amounts. This is the first real big point of discussion imo, and the first thing that spawns some reads and a lot of chatter.

BC calls out grackaroni and storrzerg. This shifts the rayn/HF fight, which does continue somewhat, into some discussion of Grack, some discussion of BC. BC, prior to this post, hadn't done boatloads.

A lot of people are running for mayor but are their only vote. Onegu, me, alakaslam, I think a couple others. Otherwise, there is really very little movement on votes, people liked VE and yamato early, and while they haven't been terribly involved as of late, they remain the main two candidates. supersoft is also getting a couple votes, campaigning based on being a vet and wanting protection and usually dying early. While he is often making kinda asshole-y posts, the vast majority of folks find him townie.

That takes you probably to the halfway point. No MASSIVE action, but a decent start --> rayn/HF --> BC post would be my main highlights of the first 24 hours. There's a funky point where yamato outs LastMeow as having masoned him, with believable reason as to why LM would target yamato, but ... it's a strange time to just out someone like that and then drop it. That would be a minor happening to check out.

After that...there is relatively little movement in terms of votes. Supersoft picks up some more votes, and the voting is pretty clearly between yamato/VE/supersoft for mayor and pardoner. Some votes get moved towards the end, there are a lot of "I think yamato is town but want other dudes to have protection," including from me. I don't know yet if anything is to be gained from the votes, but there was a tiny bit of movement from maybe ~6 hours left onwards.

Otherwise, BC sort of slides off and doesn't do much. supersoft starts posting a little more, starts getting more people involved. VE disappears. BH makes a stupid tracker claim for very little reason, people poke around at it and fight over it --> pandain, rayn, maybe grack a little? Mig posts a spreadsheet of reads and a couple other things. Mocsta makes some strange cases on a couple people. Grack trolls slightly less, but still trolls. Spaghetticus is the only person to really get on VE's ass, writes a couple sizeable posts considering VE to be scummy, doesn't get lots of traction, but had a couple people talking about it.

There really just isn't oodles of note from D1. It wasn't...dead, but there weren't a lot of high impact points that I can recall.


As far as semi-lurkers, others may agree/disagree, but I would say you're looking at the lowest lowest super lurky tier being

Coag
Hiro Protag (you replaced)
Hopeless1der
Stutters (posted that he didn't know game started, 1-2 posts, gone)
LoneMeow (involved in masonry)
Cheesecake (i put him here)

The second tier of slightly less lurky people, who were maybe involved in a thing or two:

Mattchew
Sharrant (maybe)
Spaghetticus (maybe)
OOHCHILD
BH (really only involved in things he started)

People with some posts, but either I can't call to mind anything specific they really impacted OR they were involved in 1-2 discussions, somewhat heavily, and then were not too involved in anything else:

Sharrant (maybe goes here)
Vayne
Holyflare (maybe)
Oats (maybe)
Alakaslam (maybe)


It's kind of a normal big game with a lot of lurk and semi-lurk. There were only a few people standing opposed to each other during the day, rayn/HF, i think rayn/koshi for a bit, spaghett coming out strongly against VE, BC coming out strongly against grack.

As far as people who didn't get talked ABOUT in those lists, you're looking at Coag, LoneMeow (outside of masonry), Cheesecake, Spaghetticus, and probably a little oats/alakaslam. Most other folks got poked by someone, or were brought up occasionally by a bunch of folks as "dat dude lurks/hasn't done anything townie", or were serious momentary topics of discussion.


There's my too-long summary. Welcome to game. I wish I'd made this post more thematic and included scenes and timestamps and stuff about Czechoslovakia, but I didn't. Also, I think it's the Czech Republic and has been for...quite some time? I think I may be dating myself on calling it a different name. Boo.
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