EPTTL Mafia LXIII: Time to Die - Page 372
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Grackaroni
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Holyflare
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The vote was at like 7 to 6 or 7 to 5, i tell him to consolidate to thrawn and he says sure thing. What town motivation is there to suddenly switch his vote to VA who had no prior votes? The only thing it enables is town consensus to fail, it showed he hadn't read the thread because he asked US who to lynch and instead of making the lynch safe on a scum lynch he makes it highly vulnerable to shenanigans. There is no town motivation there at all. I said he may as well be a lurker despite his lengthy post count because I haven't seen much contribution at all. The fact of the matter is 2 townies just died. 3 if you count vayne. People are tagging along for the ride when the only people who even properly discussed the cc lynch were me and austin and you. There is quite clearly scum sitting along for the ride here. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On December 04 2013 09:17 Holyflare wrote: Pandain i don't get what exactly you're getting at re:me, there was clearly no incentive for scum to argue against a town/town lynch, i came back with4 hours to go before lynch to discuss why i thought one of the candidates was town and yes, unfortunately it led to me being hypocritical on slam but the point you said about his vote NOT being alignment indicative is very very wrong. The vote was at like 7 to 6 or 7 to 5, i tell him to consolidate to thrawn and he says sure thing. What town motivation is there to suddenly switch his vote to VA who had no prior votes? The only thing it enables is town consensus to fail, it showed he hadn't read the thread because he asked US who to lynch and instead of making the lynch safe on a scum lynch he makes it highly vulnerable to shenanigans. There is no town motivation there at all. I said he may as well be a lurker despite his lengthy post count because I haven't seen much contribution at all. The fact of the matter is 2 townies just died. 3 if you count vayne. People are tagging along for the ride when the only people who even properly discussed the cc lynch were me and austin and you. There is quite clearly scum sitting along for the ride here. K now I can do this anyway. Holyflare, do you remember our very recent scum game? I would be much better at NOT pulling such shenanigans if I had scum know how. You should know best of anyone here that I am town? But there is WIFOM I understand. It's why I martyred. | ||
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Holyflare
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I am tunnelled on this point and it's annoying me because i see no logical town reasoning behind it, so convince me! | ||
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Alakaslam
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On December 04 2013 08:21 Pandain wrote: Okay fine if you want it that bad we can lynch you after Coag and then lose the game. gratz This point is why I'm now defending hard. I'm just trying to vindicate where I was coming from. | ||
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Alakaslam
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On December 04 2013 09:38 Holyflare wrote: It doesn't matter what you do or did because that thrawn lynch is completely different scenario. You go from 2kp to 1 in a big game, not a newbie. I would love to hear your thought process on the switch to VA instead of consolidation though, why bother asking us what to do to just end up not doing it? I am tunnelled on this point and it's annoying me because i see no logical town reasoning behind it, so convince me! It was just voicing my opinion. I wasn't actually sure of Thrawn lynch, but was willing to hammer it. My true read was VA however. What good did the move do scum? If I WAS scum you can bet 2 KP is a lot better than a little towncred in a downward spiral! I would have been "afk" in a heartbeat. | ||
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Holyflare
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Alakaslam
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On December 04 2013 10:10 Holyflare wrote: I want to know how the plan of lynch coag was aborted while I was gone and put onto 2 people nobody really fully questioned though. I also want to know why, when I voted coag everyone just said no and got on with their lives only to now question him again today? Who? I have been chasing lone to no avail Hopeless wants Onegu out Lone doesn't know for sure Coag wants pandain out Pandain wants Coag out What the fish? Your ka bar sounds like a fart on that dry ice | ||
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austinmcc
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Gut read from thinking about things while doing other stuff is that I am overcomplexificating everything, as somewhat usual, and we should lynch someone who didn't vote thrawn. Especially if they mildly fought the lynch. Have to look at those folks harder tomorrow and catch up on the last 2 pages. Yes, I'm not reading those 2 pages right now, sry. | ||
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Mocsta
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Grackaroni
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On December 04 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: So I was masoned with pandain yesterday and I dont see the reason why a scum pandain would do that? Like I guess he masons people he presumes weak and can manipulate them. Looking back on it maybe this is it, he is the one that got me off of HF for the time being, and tried to keep me on a oats or mrcc lynch. His reads on HF never changes. HF has a 24 page filter and he calls him scum all game long because he made a kind of strange post about Lonemeow. There is nothing in HF's filter that ever makes him reconsider his read or motivates him to write new points, yet he is so convinced that HF is scum that he is basing scum reads on other people off of HF being scum. His read on Koshi is also very scummy On November 23 2013 02:42 Onegu wrote: Koshi calling me out for not posting here much is BS also, it was N2 here and I am VT while it was D1 there I wonder where someone is going to post more? Hrmmm.... And then I had irl stuff and didnt post in either game. I am going to vote koshi as one of my votes I think. This reasoning is basically just omgus. Would Koshi really be more likely to complain about Onegu's inactivity as scum than as town? On November 23 2013 03:35 Onegu wrote: Rayn lets get koshi, Im going to make a case on him now. On November 23 2013 03:39 Onegu wrote: Then why is he trying to discredit me with BS reasons. Also he has changed his reads multiple times also but calls you out for it. I don't get a good feeling from the way that Onegu speaks with Rayn. He was buddying Rayn really hard. He gave Rayn a super strong town read all game and had mainly focused so far on just throwing in a bit of support to Rayn's case on HF. I think he is trying to manipulate Rayn into tunneling Koshi here. On November 23 2013 04:35 Onegu wrote: Give me a bit koshi case comeing but comeing from a tablet its takeing forever. On November 23 2013 05:47 Onegu wrote: Fine Austin, Ill take back koshi for now as I am the only one on him and rereading his filter he isnt as scummy as it thought, but HF has 2 votes my vote stays on him. ##UNVOTE KOSHI ##VOTE RISEN In the end Onegu backs out from posting his read on Koshi. It was clear that going after Koshi would have been a very unpopular push. It's unlikely that he really changed his mind at all from rereading Koshi's filter because as soon as Rayn dies he starts up with the exact same push on Koshi once again. He also has no qualms voting people by himself because he switches off Risen later in the day to Austin and he was the sole Austin voter. On November 23 2013 14:45 Onegu wrote: I did. And that resoning isnt bad its something scum koshi would do to town rayn. As soon as Rayn flips he goes right back to calling Koshi scum once again. The only thing that has changed since his reread is that people are annoyed that Koshi lynched town Rayn. On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote: I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn. BC because of basicly my gut. Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion. He still is never able to write out a comprehensive case for Koshi being scum after all that time. More importantly, I have absolutely no idea what is going on with Onegu's thought process for Risen being scum. On November 23 2013 06:14 Onegu wrote: Man fuck this. youre not dead yet I like that post. ##UNVOTE ## VOTE AUSTINMCC Onegu likes Risen's posts near the deadline and chooses to unvote. On November 23 2013 19:40 Onegu wrote: I explained my votes I wasnt going to vote for my town reads, and I liked risens response toward deadline, hindsight I should have stayed with it as it lead to the rayn lynch which I had a very heavy town read on rayn. BC because of basicly my gut. Koshi because his case on rayn was bad and useing reasons he himself has done, and then him calling me out for bs reasons on more than one occasion. On November 26 2013 01:44 Onegu wrote: ##VOTE RISEN Supersofts read I should have killed him last night, basicly it was my unvote that killed rayn Also HF thinks risen is scum but doesnt vote for him, when he know a risen lynch will get rid alot of questions on BC wifom, in addition to kill scum. Look here is how I feel right now I laid some stuff down on HF multiple times, I asked for thoughts and even HF called for people to tell me to stfu. Other than HF who I was talkong about, no one else said a word. If I was scum I would be so happy I could just atk someone and look like activity but no one pays attention, but as I am town its really fucking depressing. Im not rayn Im not going to repeatedly shove shit in the thread. But all I hear is HF is town and no one saying a damn thing to me. My post on koshi only thrawn responded. If you think I am wrong give me fucking reasons. Dont just ignore it, I know alot of shit is going on but some people comment on just about everything but my case or thoughts. Austin asks me questions but doesnt actually talk about what I say. He reads it and moves on. Im caught up on everything I have thoughts, they havent changed since yesterday. The next day Onegu sheeps SS on Risen. The best reasoning given for Risen being scum was his meta. He can be useful as town and did nothing. He had an attitude of not giving a shit all game long and then when he got on the chopping block he became super invested. (doesn't really line up). SS added in some connections with BC. However, when Onegu wanted to convince Rayn that Mocsta's filter didn't prevent me from being scum he said that connections weren't important. On November 19 2013 04:34 Onegu wrote: No I had a null to scummy read on him before the mocsta flip, you saying he is town because of a connection to mocsta is dumb imo. Its like you are saying people saying he is scum because of mocsta is dumb, same thing imo with people saying he is town its all WIFOM Onegu has claimed that he does not let connections make much of an influence in his reads and he thought that Risen made good posts near the deadline so he really had absolutely zero valid reasoning for Risen being scum. Let's lynch Scum ##Vote: Onegu | ||
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Grackaroni
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On December 03 2013 23:44 Hopeless1der wrote: This is what happens when austin isnt around to carry us. Thank god we have a vet. ##Vote: Pandain p.s. I don't believe Pandain is a vet. Hence the singular form when referring to austin's role. Could you not waste your vote? We've all seen your Pandain case and it hasn't convinced anybody. Pandain has posted a lot of things since then so either write something new on Pandain or vote someone reasonable. | ||
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Pandain
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Pandain
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marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 12-02-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) CLOSED 52 onegu 12-02-2013 07:00 AM ET (US) Have you reread hopeless yet? 51 onegu 12-01-2013 02:40 PM ET (US) You mean oats? Because I felt better about a CC lynch after what austin said. Like basicly its odd oats hasnt really pushed a lynch, and he didnt vote BC, but CC looks much worse with his read switches and the risen thing. 50 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:00 PM ET (US) Why did you Unvote cc 49 onegu 12-01-2013 01:12 PM ET (US) yeah I dont like hopeless much, and like to be honest I dont put that much stock on what dead scum have said, like if you are null that can tip the scale, but it shouldnt make someone town or scum on its own. 48 Pandain 12-01-2013 01:08 PM ET (US) Yeah hopeless suspicious because of his "oh can't convince anyone pandain is scum so I won't do shit" 47 onegu 12-01-2013 11:12 AM ET (US) /m43 the bus part is in reference to /m6 What are your thoughts on that? 46 onegu 12-01-2013 10:38 AM ET (US) I thought he actually voted BC, yeah Im good with a oats vote. 45 onegu 12-01-2013 10:29 AM ET (US) Wait did oats not vote BC? 44 onegu 12-01-2013 10:26 AM ET (US) Actually LMs post on oats looks good I could go with that. 43 onegu 12-01-2013 08:20 AM ET (US) Is this a bus then? Yeah I feel you and austin are for sure town Coag, grack, LM and VA are likely town Slam is a coin flip that leaves oats and hopeless in the likely scum HF and MRCC as scum Im ok to vote for anyone in the bottom 4 but prefer MRCC as a HF lynch wont happen at this stage. 42 onegu 12-01-2013 05:40 AM ET (US) Also I really dont like how Mr. Cc came back into the thread, like I said I was going to make a case on him then austin steals my thunder while I am trying to write things from my tablet. But no CC says my case is opportunistic.... 41 onegu 12-01-2013 05:34 AM ET (US) Grack is town, i thoight he might be scum earlier with his trolling, but he has kept it up the entire game, was early on BC, and voted thrawn also. Not much to say on LM, I still hold to the statement a scum team isnt going to let him mason a town yamato day 1, it just isnt going to happen. And LM would ask before doing amything, I have been scum with him twice and he always asks. I still have no idea why HF thinks otherwise if he is town after playimg scum with him in hogwarts. 40 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:35 AM ET (US) Oats/Cheesecake are my top reads definitely. 39 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:26 AM ET (US) I completely understand haha that's more important 38 onegu 12-01-2013 02:47 AM ET (US) I believe you are town, a scum mason wouldnt mason me its not worth it as I was a very likely person to die today and my voice carries little weight. Also I have a handicapped son that is very handicappped and when he has any kind of issue I have to give him 100% of my attention so I am still readimg as there was a problem with my sons trach when he rolled over. He is sleeping now so I shouldnt have more interuptions. 37 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:17 AM ET (US) This better be the best filter analysis I've ever heard in my life 36 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) I'll give reasons why I should be town to you, because I think you're going to need to trust me. Only three votes are out right now. You're an easy lynch, and no one else is going to get lynched except you, Cheesecake, or Oats. I don't think CC is conclusive enough. Here's why I'm town: 1. All my mason choices have been clear town. First three were Supersoft, BC, and then Mig. That shows lack of fear, and my mason logs are pretty legit. Esp B.C., where we disagree a lot and there's actually emotional conflict in there. I masoned Grack which makes sense because Grackapack. I masoned Hopeless and now you to figure out your guys' alignment. All town mason choices unlike Thrawn who with masons like Koshi and Rayne shows that he was scared. 2. Most people who are dead thought I was town. I masoned SS and Mig, and they're confirmed town, and they had strong town reads on me. Prob cuz they liked me in mason chats. 3. I've clearly shown an interst to lynch scum, not just Oats. I'm talking with you and trying to figure out who is scum, actually getting conversation started. 35 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:10 AM ET (US) I think I've filtered everyone so let me know if you have any comments, questions, or anything. 34 onegu 11-30-2013 11:48 PM ET (US) Will do you and VA today as I have no other plans for today. Then I still want to get to HF. 33 onegu 11-30-2013 11:46 PM ET (US) Grack and then LM 32 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) Who are you filtering now 31 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:12 PM ET (US) He wouldn't be afraid I would catch him hahahaha 30 onegu 11-30-2013 11:11 PM ET (US) Maybe he was afraid you would catch him so he just shut up. I can see where you are comeing from with oats, I havent played enough with him to know his meta well. I just know he doesnt do much but is in your face about it. I could vote him, would prefer a CC or HF lynch. Im going to finish my filter reads today. 29 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:32 PM ET (US) Also Hopeless like didn't even give the apperance of wanting to talk to me in our chat. He was like "Lol scum nice try", which doesn't seem like a mafia thing to do 28 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) I'm decidely less sure on a Cheesecake lynch. He might just genuinely think you are scum after all you were somewhat suspicious 27 Pandain 11-30-2013 04:48 PM ET (US) This is not town Oats. He is way too passive in picking lynches and going after people. Seems way more indicative of mafia then town, who have an objective to find scum. 26 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) And it's not that he hasn't made a case, it's that he hasn't even pushed a lynch except Risen against Thrawn. And it's day 6. That's not Oats 25 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) Eh Hopeless also was the target of conversation of BC. I forget if he said it to SS or me, but he said he wanted to lynch him. That's not certain since BC didn't push him, but I think it's something to note. I just think Oats is way better to be honest. Hopeless could just be playing bad, is there any reason why he's SCUMMY 24 onegu 11-30-2013 01:07 PM ET (US) Yeah and as town he never made anything close to a case like that in hogwarts. He did make one case as town in WC2 mafia, but it looks much more thought out and in depth ill link it for you http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=91#1815 23 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 PM ET (US) Rayn was first, its almost like he saw who a really vocal townie made a case then added a bit and made his own case, because he doesnt talk about you before that and then tunnels you the rest of the game. 22 onegu 11-30-2013 12:55 PM ET (US) Moment I need to look whose case on you was up first rayn or hopeless. 21 onegu 11-30-2013 12:53 PM ET (US) And jeez does he tunnel you into oblivion. Did you do something to him in mason chat that got deleted? Then a flip onto thrawn, and then a risen vote and never heard from again. I think he has a better chance to flip scum than oats tbh. Like look what he does with LM and coag. He brings them up only to say they should be ignored until lylo? Yes he voted for thrawn and BC, but the timeings seem off, like thats who he had to vote for. He had a town read rayn, so he cant vote him. I guess he could habe voted risen, but that still doesnt save BC. And he was lateish to the party on thrawn also. 20 onegu 11-30-2013 12:36 PM ET (US) And have you actually read hopeless case on you? Man you are confirmed scum (sarcasm), because you KNOW mig is town and letting scum see his notes. That case seems kinda forced, he never did anything like that in hogwarts iirc I need to check. 19 onegu 11-30-2013 12:32 PM ET (US) The wishy washy I will give you his reads go all over the place. you mean the twrawn lynch he was all risen is scum, then all of a sudden risen martyring is townie but vote risen. 18 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:07 PM ET (US) He never led his own lynch. He was very wispy washy on all scum and tried to stop a risen lynch 17 onegu 11-30-2013 07:54 AM ET (US) Im fairly null on oats, other than being wromg alot, calling out people for not finding scum day one then not finding scum. Then says SS is scummier than BC changes to BC late with little reason then is like am I still scum, I was right about BC. Then wrong about mig, wrong about risen, wrong about multiple people, Right about VE lol. And not really doing anything. Like I could lynch him but I feel much better Mr. Cc is scum. 16 onegu 11-30-2013 03:19 AM ET (US) Ok I am going to my wifes dermatologist first then the mall, the doctors office doesnt have wifi but the mall does. I have Oats filter open and all on one page so I can read while I am there, also have grack, and hopeless open also. Other than you I have town reads on everyone else, except HF and I will work on those later. Null on you, but doubt you would mason me as scum. 15 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Ok Im going to shower I will be back in a few and start my read of oats. 14 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Let me know when you read Oats. And I 100% agree. I haven't told him that thought because I want to see how he reacts. If he is faking it, then we have to keep him on the suspicious line so he feels pressured. Otherwise, if he's scum and played the insane card he'll keep doing it 13 onegu 11-30-2013 12:56 AM ET (US) /m11 But I also dont think scum slam would martyr like he is. This is why I have a very hard time reading slam. 12 onegu 11-30-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) Ok, I will push him to the back burner for now. 11 onegu 11-30-2013 12:47 AM ET (US) I am finishing catching up now and slam looks really bad for his reason to not want to lynch oats. But also yes slam is normally that confused. 10 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) helped gurantee it* 9 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) Honestly Holy pushed both BC and Thrawn, and while you can say he did it because they were about to die, or momentum was shifting that way, he helped shield it. I think if we slowly lynch more scum his alignment will become more clear. And if we hit lylo, then he can be up. But don't go after him first. 8 onegu 11-30-2013 12:42 AM ET (US) I will read oats today while I am out. Also when I wrote the CC thing it was 330am for me and I knew I was going out today, sorry for peaceing out. 7 onegu 11-30-2013 12:40 AM ET (US) I agree. Also you need to look more at hogwarts mafia, not b2b for holy meta. Holy knew he had to switch his playstyle up in b2b, and did so commenting on you havent seen me play like this as town or scum. 6 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:38 AM ET (US) Actually, cheesecake is even more sketchy then I thought. Like not really putting analysis out there yet throwing reads on people, doubt he could support them to be honest. At one point he was like "oh god this guy is scummy, this guy too". Then later "shenanigans to other people?" Just weird play, but I think Oats/CC, if they are scum, are on the same team tbh. Not definitive but it makes sense to me. And I think Oats is more likely to flip scum. 5 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:34 AM ET (US) Cheesecake came out of nowhere to make a giant post on a part that most people weren't thinking about: Risen being town. It was also a weird thing to make a post about; he didn't do any actual analysis, just a reflection and a game plan. I think he could be scum. 4 onegu 11-30-2013 12:18 AM ET (US) good morning. 1. some real life stuff happened and I missed over 24 hours of the game. 2. I planning on makeing a updated case on him. I cannot shake the feeling of him being scum 3. Yes for the portion leading up to it I was afk in both games I was playing that is when I had irl stuff come up. 4. HF, Mr. Cheesecake. Not coag. Will do my filterdive of oats today and see what I think of him. 5. I have a really hard time reading slam. He came into the game with a new attitude than previous games and I felt he was town for it, but now he has basicly dropped it, started posting in codes and not makeing sense. This doesnt sit well with me but he wouldnt be my lynch choice for today. I am going to the mall today but believe it or not that is when I get the most work done in game while my wife shops. What are your thoughts on cheesecake? As I read these filters Ill let you know what I am feeling and see if we are on close to the same page. 3 Pandain 11-29-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) What do you think about slam? 2 Pandain 11-29-2013 08:15 PM ET (US) Hey you have a lot of questions to answer 1. Why have you been so lackluster this game 2. What do you think about HF now 3. Were you just totally gone during the Thrawn lynch 4. Who do you want to lynch today. 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-29-2013 08:08 PM ET (US) Pandain + Onegu mason Day 6/Night 6 | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 04 2013 10:32 Alakaslam wrote: Who? I have been chasing lone to no avail Hopeless wants Onegu out Lone doesn't know for sure Coag wants pandain out Pandain wants Coag out What the fish? Your ka bar sounds like a fart on that dry ice Was talking about last day cycle | ||
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Holyflare
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On December 04 2013 14:45 Pandain wrote: I masoned Onegu and I'm not as confident he's scum. But then again I'm not confident anyone is scum On December 04 2013 07:14 Pandain wrote: Onegu, Coagulation, Holy are my guesses. How does this make any sense within the same day? | ||
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Alakaslam
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On December 04 2013 14:47 Pandain wrote: + Show Spoiler + marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 12-02-2013 08:01 PM ET (US) CLOSED 52 onegu 12-02-2013 07:00 AM ET (US) Have you reread hopeless yet? 51 onegu 12-01-2013 02:40 PM ET (US) You mean oats? Because I felt better about a CC lynch after what austin said. Like basicly its odd oats hasnt really pushed a lynch, and he didnt vote BC, but CC looks much worse with his read switches and the risen thing. 50 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:00 PM ET (US) Why did you Unvote cc 49 onegu 12-01-2013 01:12 PM ET (US) yeah I dont like hopeless much, and like to be honest I dont put that much stock on what dead scum have said, like if you are null that can tip the scale, but it shouldnt make someone town or scum on its own. 48 Pandain 12-01-2013 01:08 PM ET (US) Yeah hopeless suspicious because of his "oh can't convince anyone pandain is scum so I won't do shit" 47 onegu 12-01-2013 11:12 AM ET (US) /m43 the bus part is in reference to /m6 What are your thoughts on that? 46 onegu 12-01-2013 10:38 AM ET (US) I thought he actually voted BC, yeah Im good with a oats vote. 45 onegu 12-01-2013 10:29 AM ET (US) Wait did oats not vote BC? 44 onegu 12-01-2013 10:26 AM ET (US) Actually LMs post on oats looks good I could go with that. 43 onegu 12-01-2013 08:20 AM ET (US) Is this a bus then? Yeah I feel you and austin are for sure town Coag, grack, LM and VA are likely town Slam is a coin flip that leaves oats and hopeless in the likely scum HF and MRCC as scum Im ok to vote for anyone in the bottom 4 but prefer MRCC as a HF lynch wont happen at this stage. 42 onegu 12-01-2013 05:40 AM ET (US) Also I really dont like how Mr. Cc came back into the thread, like I said I was going to make a case on him then austin steals my thunder while I am trying to write things from my tablet. But no CC says my case is opportunistic.... 41 onegu 12-01-2013 05:34 AM ET (US) Grack is town, i thoight he might be scum earlier with his trolling, but he has kept it up the entire game, was early on BC, and voted thrawn also. Not much to say on LM, I still hold to the statement a scum team isnt going to let him mason a town yamato day 1, it just isnt going to happen. And LM would ask before doing amything, I have been scum with him twice and he always asks. I still have no idea why HF thinks otherwise if he is town after playimg scum with him in hogwarts. 40 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:35 AM ET (US) Oats/Cheesecake are my top reads definitely. 39 Pandain 12-01-2013 04:26 AM ET (US) I completely understand haha that's more important 38 onegu 12-01-2013 02:47 AM ET (US) I believe you are town, a scum mason wouldnt mason me its not worth it as I was a very likely person to die today and my voice carries little weight. Also I have a handicapped son that is very handicappped and when he has any kind of issue I have to give him 100% of my attention so I am still readimg as there was a problem with my sons trach when he rolled over. He is sleeping now so I shouldnt have more interuptions. 37 Pandain 12-01-2013 02:17 AM ET (US) This better be the best filter analysis I've ever heard in my life 36 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) I'll give reasons why I should be town to you, because I think you're going to need to trust me. Only three votes are out right now. You're an easy lynch, and no one else is going to get lynched except you, Cheesecake, or Oats. I don't think CC is conclusive enough. Here's why I'm town: 1. All my mason choices have been clear town. First three were Supersoft, BC, and then Mig. That shows lack of fear, and my mason logs are pretty legit. Esp B.C., where we disagree a lot and there's actually emotional conflict in there. I masoned Grack which makes sense because Grackapack. I masoned Hopeless and now you to figure out your guys' alignment. All town mason choices unlike Thrawn who with masons like Koshi and Rayne shows that he was scared. 2. Most people who are dead thought I was town. I masoned SS and Mig, and they're confirmed town, and they had strong town reads on me. Prob cuz they liked me in mason chats. 3. I've clearly shown an interst to lynch scum, not just Oats. I'm talking with you and trying to figure out who is scum, actually getting conversation started. 35 Pandain 12-01-2013 12:10 AM ET (US) I think I've filtered everyone so let me know if you have any comments, questions, or anything. 34 onegu 11-30-2013 11:48 PM ET (US) Will do you and VA today as I have no other plans for today. Then I still want to get to HF. 33 onegu 11-30-2013 11:46 PM ET (US) Grack and then LM 32 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:22 PM ET (US) Who are you filtering now 31 Pandain 11-30-2013 11:12 PM ET (US) He wouldn't be afraid I would catch him hahahaha 30 onegu 11-30-2013 11:11 PM ET (US) Maybe he was afraid you would catch him so he just shut up. I can see where you are comeing from with oats, I havent played enough with him to know his meta well. I just know he doesnt do much but is in your face about it. I could vote him, would prefer a CC or HF lynch. Im going to finish my filter reads today. 29 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:32 PM ET (US) Also Hopeless like didn't even give the apperance of wanting to talk to me in our chat. He was like "Lol scum nice try", which doesn't seem like a mafia thing to do 28 Pandain 11-30-2013 07:08 PM ET (US) I'm decidely less sure on a Cheesecake lynch. He might just genuinely think you are scum after all you were somewhat suspicious 27 Pandain 11-30-2013 04:48 PM ET (US) This is not town Oats. He is way too passive in picking lynches and going after people. Seems way more indicative of mafia then town, who have an objective to find scum. 26 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) And it's not that he hasn't made a case, it's that he hasn't even pushed a lynch except Risen against Thrawn. And it's day 6. That's not Oats 25 Pandain 11-30-2013 02:45 PM ET (US) Eh Hopeless also was the target of conversation of BC. I forget if he said it to SS or me, but he said he wanted to lynch him. That's not certain since BC didn't push him, but I think it's something to note. I just think Oats is way better to be honest. Hopeless could just be playing bad, is there any reason why he's SCUMMY 24 onegu 11-30-2013 01:07 PM ET (US) Yeah and as town he never made anything close to a case like that in hogwarts. He did make one case as town in WC2 mafia, but it looks much more thought out and in depth ill link it for you http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...currentpage=91#1815 23 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 PM ET (US) Rayn was first, its almost like he saw who a really vocal townie made a case then added a bit and made his own case, because he doesnt talk about you before that and then tunnels you the rest of the game. 22 onegu 11-30-2013 12:55 PM ET (US) Moment I need to look whose case on you was up first rayn or hopeless. 21 onegu 11-30-2013 12:53 PM ET (US) And jeez does he tunnel you into oblivion. Did you do something to him in mason chat that got deleted? Then a flip onto thrawn, and then a risen vote and never heard from again. I think he has a better chance to flip scum than oats tbh. Like look what he does with LM and coag. He brings them up only to say they should be ignored until lylo? Yes he voted for thrawn and BC, but the timeings seem off, like thats who he had to vote for. He had a town read rayn, so he cant vote him. I guess he could habe voted risen, but that still doesnt save BC. And he was lateish to the party on thrawn also. 20 onegu 11-30-2013 12:36 PM ET (US) And have you actually read hopeless case on you? Man you are confirmed scum (sarcasm), because you KNOW mig is town and letting scum see his notes. That case seems kinda forced, he never did anything like that in hogwarts iirc I need to check. 19 onegu 11-30-2013 12:32 PM ET (US) The wishy washy I will give you his reads go all over the place. you mean the twrawn lynch he was all risen is scum, then all of a sudden risen martyring is townie but vote risen. 18 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:07 PM ET (US) He never led his own lynch. He was very wispy washy on all scum and tried to stop a risen lynch 17 onegu 11-30-2013 07:54 AM ET (US) Im fairly null on oats, other than being wromg alot, calling out people for not finding scum day one then not finding scum. Then says SS is scummier than BC changes to BC late with little reason then is like am I still scum, I was right about BC. Then wrong about mig, wrong about risen, wrong about multiple people, Right about VE lol. And not really doing anything. Like I could lynch him but I feel much better Mr. Cc is scum. 16 onegu 11-30-2013 03:19 AM ET (US) Ok I am going to my wifes dermatologist first then the mall, the doctors office doesnt have wifi but the mall does. I have Oats filter open and all on one page so I can read while I am there, also have grack, and hopeless open also. Other than you I have town reads on everyone else, except HF and I will work on those later. Null on you, but doubt you would mason me as scum. 15 onegu 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Ok Im going to shower I will be back in a few and start my read of oats. 14 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:58 AM ET (US) Let me know when you read Oats. And I 100% agree. I haven't told him that thought because I want to see how he reacts. If he is faking it, then we have to keep him on the suspicious line so he feels pressured. Otherwise, if he's scum and played the insane card he'll keep doing it 13 onegu 11-30-2013 12:56 AM ET (US) /m11 But I also dont think scum slam would martyr like he is. This is why I have a very hard time reading slam. 12 onegu 11-30-2013 12:51 AM ET (US) Ok, I will push him to the back burner for now. 11 onegu 11-30-2013 12:47 AM ET (US) I am finishing catching up now and slam looks really bad for his reason to not want to lynch oats. But also yes slam is normally that confused. 10 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) helped gurantee it* 9 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:44 AM ET (US) Honestly Holy pushed both BC and Thrawn, and while you can say he did it because they were about to die, or momentum was shifting that way, he helped shield it. I think if we slowly lynch more scum his alignment will become more clear. And if we hit lylo, then he can be up. But don't go after him first. 8 onegu 11-30-2013 12:42 AM ET (US) I will read oats today while I am out. Also when I wrote the CC thing it was 330am for me and I knew I was going out today, sorry for peaceing out. 7 onegu 11-30-2013 12:40 AM ET (US) I agree. Also you need to look more at hogwarts mafia, not b2b for holy meta. Holy knew he had to switch his playstyle up in b2b, and did so commenting on you havent seen me play like this as town or scum. 6 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:38 AM ET (US) Actually, cheesecake is even more sketchy then I thought. Like not really putting analysis out there yet throwing reads on people, doubt he could support them to be honest. At one point he was like "oh god this guy is scummy, this guy too". Then later "shenanigans to other people?" Just weird play, but I think Oats/CC, if they are scum, are on the same team tbh. Not definitive but it makes sense to me. And I think Oats is more likely to flip scum. 5 Pandain 11-30-2013 12:34 AM ET (US) Cheesecake came out of nowhere to make a giant post on a part that most people weren't thinking about: Risen being town. It was also a weird thing to make a post about; he didn't do any actual analysis, just a reflection and a game plan. I think he could be scum. 4 onegu 11-30-2013 12:18 AM ET (US) good morning. 1. some real life stuff happened and I missed over 24 hours of the game. 2. I planning on makeing a updated case on him. I cannot shake the feeling of him being scum 3. Yes for the portion leading up to it I was afk in both games I was playing that is when I had irl stuff come up. 4. HF, Mr. Cheesecake. Not coag. Will do my filterdive of oats today and see what I think of him. 5. I have a really hard time reading slam. He came into the game with a new attitude than previous games and I felt he was town for it, but now he has basicly dropped it, started posting in codes and not makeing sense. This doesnt sit well with me but he wouldnt be my lynch choice for today. I am going to the mall today but believe it or not that is when I get the most work done in game while my wife shops. What are your thoughts on cheesecake? As I read these filters Ill let you know what I am feeling and see if we are on close to the same page. 3 Pandain 11-29-2013 10:27 PM ET (US) What do you think about slam? 2 Pandain 11-29-2013 08:15 PM ET (US) Hey you have a lot of questions to answer 1. Why have you been so lackluster this game 2. What do you think about HF now 3. Were you just totally gone during the Thrawn lynch 4. Who do you want to lynch today. 1 marvellosityPerson was signed in when posted 11-29-2013 08:08 PM ET (US) Pandain + Onegu mason Day 6/Night 6 Dude, you guys. Scum play is an art. I don't want to give away more than that. IF lonemeow is scum, I will give him Kudos here an now. That being said, lettuce go for Hopeless1der | ||
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On December 04 2013 15:27 Holyflare wrote: How does this make any sense within the same day? Man dude Now I am WIFOM'ed again. No vote yet. | ||
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