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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 01:22 GMT
#2121
Yenisei had the clear lead and was pj's skiing on lynching me. u refuse to be that gut who got lunches d1 as tracker cause he didn't. claim. it was the right move IMO would do it again
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 01:24 GMT
#2125
and he we are twenty minutes after and jiin still alive. who's lauding now? hint: not skan
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 01:26 GMT
#2128
clearly you guys should have elected me for the floors RNG lunch of destiny
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 05:04 GMT
#2214
someone Mason ed me
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 22:36 GMT
#2546
On November 18 2013 07:00 StorrZerg wrote:
in short BH has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason.


this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#2561
I am gonna slap down (link)a couple of scumreads before I get rolling

also if anyone has any ideas about who I should track tonight let me know

I agree with thrawn and VE re: grack's seriousness level. We should consider grack for a lynch tomorrow not because he is non-serious at times (link) but rather what he chooses to be non-serious about. As VE notes, (link) Grack spends a lot of time talking about kush and pushing for a kush mayorship (link) to the exclusion of discussing other things. After being called out on it, he moves to other topics, but ultimately his decision to engage people in a non-serious attitude lets him say things that he can just ignore/backtrack later (examples like support for my RNG lynch : (link) or voting yamato to push BC when yamato ends up wanting to lynch me, and not unvoting yamato despite that (link)). Ultimately what we see isn't just someone trolling, but someone strategically opting out of the discourse by taking up trolling positions, admitting they're trolling (link) (link), and leaving his vote (or his case) wherever it is convenient for him. The point he makes re: BC isn't inherently bad, but he implies that BC trying to look productive is actually scummier than Grack not trying to; and this is false. Grack can back away from any position he takes, and has, and ducks under the radar for it. This is what scum do. How much do you really know about Grack's positions? very little-- he seems to constantly change his mind about things, and never takes a serious stance. A good play for a scum player.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#2564
oh wow one of those links ended up in the wrong place, thanks a lot obama. here's the good version:

On November 18 2013 07:47 Blazinghand wrote:
I am gonna slap down a couple of scumreads before I get rolling

also if anyone has any ideas about who I should track tonight let me know

I agree with thrawn and VE re: grack's seriousness level. We should consider grack for a lynch tomorrow not because he is non-serious at times (link)(link) but rather what he chooses to be non-serious about. As VE notes, (link) Grack spends a lot of time talking about kush and pushing for a kush mayorship (link) to the exclusion of discussing other things. After being called out on it, he moves to other topics, but ultimately his decision to engage people in a non-serious attitude lets him say things that he can just ignore/backtrack later (examples like support for my RNG lynch : (link) or voting yamato to push BC when yamato ends up wanting to lynch me, and not unvoting yamato despite that (link)). Ultimately what we see isn't just someone trolling, but someone strategically opting out of the discourse by taking up trolling positions, admitting they're trolling (link) (link), and leaving his vote (or his case) wherever it is convenient for him. The point he makes re: BC isn't inherently bad, but he implies that BC trying to look productive is actually scummier than Grack not trying to; and this is false. Grack can back away from any position he takes, and has, and ducks under the radar for it. This is what scum do. How much do you really know about Grack's positions? very little-- he seems to constantly change his mind about things, and never takes a serious stance. A good play for a scum player.

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 22:50 GMT
#2566
On November 18 2013 07:44 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 07:36 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 18 2013 07:00 StorrZerg wrote:
in short BH has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason.


this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game



well want to be active now

Thoughts on yamato? BC?


Yamato's fixation on me strikes me more as angry yamato than scum yamato, but I wouldn't put it past scum yamato to at least pretend to be mad. BC isn't on my radar relative to grack, since grack is trying to stay off the radar. I'll check out BC if I can before night end. Got any ideas for a track?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 22:52 GMT
#2567
I guess when it comes down to it, I can see a town player just being uncommunicative and bad (even BC is capable of it), but intentionally obfuscating your seriousness like grack is almost certainly and indication of scum play. If BC wakes up dead tomorrow that's fine by me, but I'd shoot grack over BC
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#2593
It was the right time to claim and I stand behind it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 00:37 GMT
#2690
I am tracking Austin. If I die id put him and grack as top reads.

my read on yam is conditional. I left some reasoning with my mason partner since if I reveal what I think about yam meta he will game it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 00:40 GMT
#2694
On November 18 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 08:54 Pandain wrote:
Rayn this is why I don't mason you because we never agree on anything anyway. I think there's plenty of things to come out of pushing BH, BC and SS agrees with me that BH is sketchy, why don't you listen to them if not me?

Because i do not think they are necessarily town.
And i do not think BH's claim makes him anything. I am not saying you are not allowed to call him scum, but you have focused on his claim for like latest 20 posts of yours. It's useless because his claim does not make him anything.


Rayn is town. this post is spot on. indicates scum hunt mindset. he notices pandsin trying to make his optout look like a push.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 00:44 GMT
#2701
panda tentative scum but if I die don't push him based on this read. I will develop later if can. for now dinner.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:02 GMT
#2939
Hello guys, I'm back. It seems that thrawn has outed me before I could get the chance to do it myself. Time to get cracking and clear my name!

On November 18 2013 15:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 15:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So too bad to be scum. Right.

I wouldn't really argue against vigging him, but the too bad to be scum does usually end up correct. (It could actually just be because there are more bad players than scum players.)


now that's some bayesian reasoning!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:05 GMT
#2946
On November 18 2013 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH if you did that as town, I will shit on you every time you say you are a good player.


I assume you mean figuratively, though now I'm suddenly double-checking that I've locked my door.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:09 GMT
#2950
Man oats it's not a "blazinghand was good" vs "blazinghand was bad" dichotomy. What did you want me to do, say I was busy? Please. Like I'd even try that-- you know me and my history. I did what I needed to do to try to avoid getting mislynched by the insane yamato D1, and you know what? It worked. If I had time to fill the thread with cool posts with analysis I'd have done that myself. Hell if I was scum I could have at least spammed the thread or something to look active. I just didn't have time, and "I don't have time" is never an allowable excuse.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:10 GMT
#2951
I suspect actually that I'm not going to convince oats. I'm going to redirect my resources elsewhere.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:14 GMT
#2955
On November 18 2013 16:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
No, I wanted you to post like a townie in the limited time you have. There is no excuse for not playing the game if you are town.


you vastly overestimate the amount of time i spent on this game during the first, say, 60 hours if you think I was capable of doing anything remotely helpful during that time

On November 18 2013 16:13 Grackaroni wrote:
BH. Have you ever fake claimed as town before?


no, though I have fake-unclaimed
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:18 GMT
#2958
Well I hate to say it to you grack but that breadcrumb was by far the shittest bread crumb i've ever claimed to have, including the "squm" crumb. Like ok for real 1) "hey" is not a bread crumb 2) the amount of work it took to make "sock-head" into "cop" (which, by the way, isn't even tracker) was phenomenal. I was just making fun of the pant-head meme. The fact that anyone even believed it for a second is just... well it's something all right.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
November 18 2013 07:19 GMT
#2959
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.
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