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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2013 03:50 GMT
#6954
The last bit of thrawn on onegu action was something I was concerned with, but not thinking about in a scum on scum way.

Thrawn took the very last bit of stuff onegu had done, called him mafia for it. Didn't appear to have looked at Onegu's filter as a whole, just grabbed onto one thing and called him scum.

I thought at the time it fit as a mafia scumread, because it was so opportunistic in calling someone scum without ever looking at their full play. That's why I asked about play as a whole. Did not actually look to see that he'd jumped around so much.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2013 03:55 GMT
#6956
On November 28 2013 12:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
sparked his interest aka he saw a chance of mislynching me at the time
Yup. That's me. Just mislynching you all day every day.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 28 2013 04:29 GMT
#6966
The person who is replying and who we are replying to is best lynch. Keeps us from getting distracted, clears some chaff from thread.

Also, I already had a Rayn Train series of paint pics that I was drawing earlier, now I feel like I can never post because the train would be overused.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 00:46 GMT
#7000
Risen who yo friends is
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 01:02 GMT
#7004
HOORAY FOR LYNCHING THRAWN.

LARGE QUESTIONS MARKS AT RISEN.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 01:07 GMT
#7010
I don't think it's as cut and dry as "people who didn't vote thrawn," but we look at that group and we really analyze everyone's reasons for voting thrawn.

It also means that anyone who was looking at D3 votes and considering Risen to be mafia has to work from a new angle.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 01:45 GMT
#7014
Interesting signature change.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 02:35 GMT
#7021
Thanks.

I did what I could to bring freedom and democracy to Turkeystan and Pieraq.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 16:07 GMT
#7032
Why the laughter?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 16:28 GMT
#7033
Heck, let's be more specific. Why do you laugh at the thought of CC being mafia?

Voted BC D1

Absolutely can't seem to make up his mind on risen (Calls him scum pretty often, but is constantly putting up what to do in case he flips town, and is putting in MORE effort to analyze townRisen scenarios than scumRisen scenarios. Who focuses on the flip they aren't expecting? Possible indication that he KNOWS Risen will flip town, and his analysis is focused on the scenario that will happen)

He NEVER mentions hiro. He never mentions thrawn until D4, in which he wants to lynch risen and then look at thrawn and others later. However, when really pushed about thrawn, he looks, pulls up a couple quotes, and votes the guy.

But again, he's super duper willing to switch to thrawn because of a couple quotes from BC. But when thrawn writes things about risen, or risen does jack all, CC very very very very unsure. Look at how sure he is of the thrawn lynch and why, then look at how much he hedges on the risen lynch and why. Based on his posting, to you (oats), or others, do you think CC should be 100000% convinced on thrawn, but so hedge-y on Risen?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 16:33 GMT
#7034
Moreover, CC votes BC D1 and then on D2 pulls a quote or two out of mocsta's filter and decides BC is a decent lynch for D3.

He goes straight from BC should be elected to BC a decent lynch, along with LM/mattchew, just because mocsta made a single post about not liking how someone was analyzing BC. Is this enough of a reason to pull a full 180 on your read? Does CC base all of his reads in things that mocsta said about people? (No, he doesn;t).

So...oatsy woatsy. Why is it laughable that CC could be scum?

TO ANYONE ELSE - IS IT LAUGHABLE THAT CC COULD BE SCUM? PLOX TO INFORM AS TO WHY.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 16:50 GMT
#7035
Mocsta's only mention of Cheese, randomly chiming in on me calling him scummy in order to say that Cheese is "detached" and "has potential." Never mentions cheese again - + Show Spoiler +
On November 18 2013 01:34 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2013 01:28 austinmcc wrote:
On November 18 2013 01:17 Spaghetticus wrote:
For context, could you quicklist your three biggest scumreads? Who do you consider confirmed town?

I don't find any one post particularly scumtelling. Probably the biggest swing in my perception was when Storrzerg claimed noob. I haven't followed him up since, figuring his input has been fairly limited and if someone prompts me it won't take long to be up to date.
Cheese scummy. rayn could be, do like koshi's points, although I'm not finding rayn as scummy this game as I normally do (found him scummy in two other games in which he was town).

Currently quite townie on risen, koshi. Neither has posted a particular thing that makes me super duper duper duper mega convinced they're town yet, though.

Cheese is pretty detached from the game.
Not just the low filter count just the posts in general.

This is interesting:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 01:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
BC would you like to be mayor?

Also what do you think of Skan?

No follow up either of why this is important to ask either.

There is potential here I think.


Rayn I haven't formed an opinion of yet. Hes been kinda present but I find I know he is posting but I can't recall what its about. This assassin talk reminds me of all that too.


BC calls him a lurker, an annoying as fuck but consistent lurker. Then a lurker who's a null read. Leaves him null in his final reads post - + Show Spoiler +
On November 20 2013 08:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 08:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 20 2013 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC would you lynch Austin next?


He looks terrible. If he doesn't pull out anything by day 3, then yes, Id be inclined to lynch him. However, im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. Hes not at the top of my list of scum.

Hmm.. Who exactly are on top of your list?
Those people you brought up in your big post?
I disagree with at least Hopeless for what i just said. Maybe on Grack too depending what BH flips. If BH is not scum then i could consider Grack but i think his interactions with Mocsta make him look better than most other players. For example i have no idea what supersoft is doing atm? I can't remember him trying to do anything at all tbh..



Top? Mattchew, Grack, Holy.

Hopeless looks terrible as well. He would be 4th on my list.

Is there anything special that differentiates those people from Alakaslam, OOHCHILD and Mr.Cheesecake?
I think all of those people (barring Mattchew) have made at least as good contributions than those i listed.


Alakaslam has kept to the same behaviour all game, as has kush and cheesecake. They are pure lurking in my books. Annoying as fuck and useless? Yes but consistent.

Of the other 3 mattchew strikes me as doing similar as the 3 I have differentiated from however he feels horribly wrong. His play has been bad and he feels off. The other two are different. Holy really has done nothing until prodded. He follows thread sentiment more than anything and imo opinion its bloody fake. Could I be wrong? yes. I can continue to harp on why I think grack is scum. In short the guy has actively trolled, done nothing really positive all game and continues even after people think hes town as town can be is useless.

I don't see someone who is believed to be town by so many actively not help. Every fucking townies dream should be get confirmed and attempt to kill mafia left and right. not luck out and get confirmed then fuck around like a dbag
On November 20 2013 08:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC your thoughts on the following players:

Coagulation, Stutters, Mr.Cheesecake.


Likely Asassin, modkill and useless to talk about, lurker whos a null read

On November 23 2013 09:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
So. Given that people are still retarded and I am still dying I ensure that my reads get dropped sooner rather than later. I have spent time over the last few days filter diving and trying to avoid tunnel vision too terribly. I recognize it happens and I am prone to it.

100% town

BloodyC0bbler
Supersoft
Pandain
Rayn
Coag
Koshi

Null

Cheesecake
Vayne
onegu
slam
lonemeow
Risen

Mafia
Thrawn
Grackeroni
HolyFlare
Hopeless1nder
Oatsmaster
Mig (possible)
Austin (possible)


Now, what you guys need to do after I flip and you realize you were all bloody wrong is take a long hard look at my reads all game. You will realize I am not bloody retarded like you guys are and with my last will and testament you can win the damn game.

My reasoning behind these choices

Thrawn
I suspected Hiro before thrawn subbed in. Primarily from an activity standpoint but his posts that he did have suck. Thrawn since subbing in has been incredibly active for a day then kinda vanished off the radar. The impact he was making is completely gone and honestly done nothing concrete that I would say makes him town. He doesn't feel right.

Grack
He has only one solid contribution to an entire game. He pushed mocsta. However his vote didn't get mocsta lynched. As “townie” as it looks, you can't opt to make someone townie for a possible contribution. Since then he has done a bunch of nothing and has actively lied about masoning people. He was called out on this and no one seems to care. This is incredibly fucked beyond belief and honestly escapes me that no one has seen through this ruse yet.

HolyFlare
This kid is up there with grack. He has spent the better part of the game tunneling me to shit. He doesn't have a plethora of reads. He even vanishes off the face of the earth. However he always seems to reappear around times I am active to push me to avoid me getting off “heat”. His only other rise to fame is that he was in talks with artanis. Given that holy was in talks with him, he would in the end have known the actual shot target. Rbing the vig then killing him would incriminate me further while leading no heat to himself. This sets up the game for a townie misslynch. Given he is one of the core people pushing repeatedly for my death and I know I'm not scum, that leaves only one option for him which is scum.

Hopeless1nder.
Has no real contributions to the game. Is around enough to ensure hes not modkilled, and posts randomly throughout the game. Mimics thread sentiment too much. As such almost guarenteed red.

Oatmaster
SS is my top town read. Given that and his rb target n1 and 1 kp missing I am inclined to agree that it could be because of this roleblock but not solely because of it. He has played in such a way that the game has become cluttered whenever he appears. He argues with basically everyone and ruins the thread. He does next to nothing aside from create chaos and make the thread unreadable.

Mig
Yea yea you all are going to be like “but hes a 2 shot vig”. I have no qualms admitting he is very likely the role he claimed. However I really dislike how he handled my pressure on calling him out on his shots and his claim. He claims to be extremely logical and in my eye is not playing to that standard. When you are mafia trying to emulate your actual style of play you are bound to mess up at some point. He also vanishes for long periods of time and appears to primarily tunnel.

Austin
Honestly He is only here on the offchance that in the 6 names prior to this one 3 flip town. He should be the last to die off this list. His play has been decent overall with a few small minor issues. Given I know how good his scum game can be, these issues could make him scum, but not ahead of anyone else on the list.



Note: I have both supersoft and pandain as town reads primarily because of the masoning. However the back and forth created from pandain/ss about the whole pandain is a vet/one of them lied could mean 1 is scum.


Thrawn NEVER mentions CC, except when talking about my scumread on CC - + Show Spoiler +
When I pressed him for scumreads he gave me MRCC and rayn, and the amount of analysis he gave me to back up those reads pales in comparison to the aforementioned play by play.


What I see is someone who is often lurky, someone who can be mislynched in games where he lurks heavily, getting ZERO pressure from any of our flipped scum. None of them make any attempt to even give a READ on him. But when I mention CC on D1, mocsta pops up and talks about him to call him detached and say CC potentially scum (As i read it), but he never returns to the subject. Thrawn thinks I'm scummy because I didn't provide a boatload of analysis on a CC scumread, but he never attempts to analyze CC himself. BC makes no attempt to analyze CC.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 17:46 GMT
#7037
If nothing else, post when you have cases or thoughts, or at the very least say "I'ma post a case on CC but the main points are A, B, C"

Cuz I'd be interested in what exactly you're looking at.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 17:54 GMT
#7038
Sorry, that came out wrong.

Post whenever, because good lord if you're town we really don't know what you're thinking. You gots to be taking stances and making reads and ... if you can't get involved, get on the record about a bunch of stuff.

Pleeeeeeeeeease.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 20:56 GMT
#7046
Oneguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#7048
Coag, how you feel about vayne and why? Not the LoL hero, the guy in game.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2013 03:37 GMT
#7112
Everyone cannot be null. If you read a page of this game, by the end of it a year would have passed, assuming we're even semi-active.

Someone has to have done Things. Scummy Things™. There are less people than before, less possible people doing Scummy Things™.

To assume that mafia is "setting up mislynches" implies that they have control of town. I don't currently think they do. Therefore, they're looking for mislynches, but having a hard time setting them up. We just stop mislynches, make good lynches. I currently don't want to lynch oats, but will reread him. I don't THINK I want to lynch Onegu either. Right now would prefer Cheese or possibly Vayne. I am full of 2 days of continuous food, but that's where my mind is at right now, and I'll post more substantively in the morning EST.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#7127
I am out most of today. For people who check in, I would like to hear thoughts on Cheesecake and VayneAuthority.

Specifically, look at cheesecake's filter, it ain't huge, and gimme some thoughts. Then look at what I said or anyone else has said about cheesecake, and see if your thoughts match up with those, or if you feel differently, and then say why. Reading and writing, no 'rithmatic involved.

Also, you should look at Vayne's filter. Then look at my jumbled up basic thoughts post on VA, specifically addressing the "keeping bomb on BC in order to get around any mafia medics --> no need to lynch BC, my bomb will kill him" point.

You should do these things instead of martyring or posting about Star Trek (TNG fo lyfe). You should do these things instead of not doing things. Please please please. I am sorry for not being around much last couple days, but I should be back to active tomorrow, once family and festivities are done.

But seriously, even if you want to lynch A or B, it's worth actually talking about some other folks. I know there has been discussion on Coag and Oats, and this is Good, but I would like to look at Cheese/VA instead. I don't want to lynch Oats, based on his D1, but I will reread because his current play is not his D1 play.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
November 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#7128
Oh and I don't really want to lynch Onegu either. In our D3 mason chat, LM asked me to look at Onegu, and I posted as to why I found him town. I will reanalyze that, but his filter looked really townie to me at that point.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#7174
On December 01 2013 20:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
There is literally no reason i should be suspicious. I called out BC after mocstas death early, killed thrawn etc.

Only reason ppl dont like me is cus of my risen post that had if risen flips toen. I POSTED THAT IN CASE I DIED TO LEAD YOU TO VICTORY. We lynch into onegu/oats/slam.
You called out BC after mocsta's death. Why did a single mocsta post cause you to call your previous towniest vet likely mafia and a good lynch for D3?


On December 01 2013 20:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
##vote: Oats

I can get aboard the oats train. SS blocked him and stuff hopefully thats where the kp went
'Splain
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