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On November 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If people can't understand these simple things then my work is done here and i can quit this game:
1) Holyflare says i called Risen town. I didn't, i explained it. After that Holyflare still says i called Risen town. This means he has either not read my posts (which is unbelieveable because he thought i was scum for it) or he has read my posts and arguing about bullshit. If he had read my posts he should have called me out for making up bullshit but he didn't. Instead he twisted the argument into something i have never said - in any case what Holyflare says i did is not true - he is making shit up for some reason and townies do not make shit up.
2) He made a big ass campaign for running for mayor. He never followed those points he brought up and the campaign was shit in the first place. He never did try to convince anyone someone is scum. He never tried to get anyone lynched. He never tried to convince the other candidates someone was scum. He doesn't even have scumreads it seems because he is not talking about them.
3) His read on me changed for no reason. None of the reasons he called me scum for "went away". The only thing that happened was i made some reads (which he did call bad).
4) That's all he has done this game.
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On point (1):
I did not call Risen town. I explained my though process when Oats questioned it.
Holyflare STILL said something else. He can't possibly say something else unless (1) he has not read my posts or (2) is making shit up.
(1) Why would you not read your scumreads posts on something you call him scum for?
(2) obvscum
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It's all in my filter and if i have to make a multiquote post about it i will, it's so really clear.
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On November 15 2013 22:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 15 2013 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Risen has overly paranoid reads as both alignments, there is no way of telling his alignment from those posts. So what's your plan of getting a read on Risen? Your initial post said that you wanted to ignore him on day 1 leading me to believe you thought he was town being dumb. Why did you make that initial statement? I am planning on getting a read on him after D1.
Artanis you yourself questioned me about it. Here.
AFTER this HF STILL says i called Risen town. Why? Did you think after this i did initially call Risen town?
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My point on (1) is Holyflare is twisting my words and banking on other people not understanding what he is doing.
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On November 19 2013 04:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 04:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 18 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If people can't understand these simple things then my work is done here and i can quit this game:
1) Holyflare says i called Risen town. I didn't, i explained it. After that Holyflare still says i called Risen town. This means he has either not read my posts (which is unbelieveable because he thought i was scum for it) or he has read my posts and arguing about bullshit. If he had read my posts he should have called me out for making up bullshit but he didn't. Instead he twisted the argument into something i have never said - in any case what Holyflare says i did is not true - he is making shit up for some reason and townies do not make shit up.
2) He made a big ass campaign for running for mayor. He never followed those points he brought up and the campaign was shit in the first place. He never did try to convince anyone someone is scum. He never tried to get anyone lynched. He never tried to convince the other candidates someone was scum. He doesn't even have scumreads it seems because he is not talking about them.
3) His read on me changed for no reason. None of the reasons he called me scum for "went away". The only thing that happened was i made some reads (which he did call bad).
4) That's all he has done this game. 1) If HF is as good as you say he is, I doubt intentionally misrepresenting your case after you've clarified it is something a scum HF would do. It seems more like the arguing of a frustrated HF trying to explain what went down and missing some of the details, which I'd consider more town than scum. I don't think he intentionally messed this up regardless of his alignment. 2) I was planning on making a big campaign too, but he realized it was pointless when some veterans started throwing their weight around. He got engaged in the thread. He tried to convince people you were scum, and has attacked BC, Mattchew, Hopeless, and Grack in his filter. Perhaps he hasn't pushed them as strongly as you would've liked, but there are plenty of people who haven't tried convincing others. 3) My read changed at similar times as his did. I had the same reasons, but they dissipated as I saw the change in your quality of posting. In fact, how he changed his read on you makes me feel more townie on him than before.
1) I explained this... Bleh.. 
2) The point is he does not follow any points in his campaign. All he does is to argue with me while saying he ignores me.
3) This is actually a legit point many people have said is true if you read the original case. Hell even Holyflare says this is tru lol.
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On November 19 2013 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I want to see what HF does when he isn't the center of attention. If he goes afk I'm willing to reconsider my read on him. If he doesn't, there'll be new material to consider. Can we put him on the backburner for now?
Agreed.
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On November 19 2013 04:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point on (1) is Holyflare is twisting my words and banking on other people not understanding what he is doing. This does not correspond with considering him a good player, or you presume that he doesn't think you're a good player. It seems suicidal for scum to do something like this.
I still want to say this. I consider myself quite decent as scum. If i find the thread sentiment in agreeing with me when i spew out bullshit (look at Catch 22, i made a mistake in trusting Coag to change his read on me when everyone else had a townread on me) i can just make up shit and get away with it and there is nothing one can do if they are the only one who knows the truth.
Like, if you know only your accuser knows the truth and noone else does not, unless they are a vigilante who shoots you in the face you can get away with any shit you say.
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On November 19 2013 05:01 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 04:37 Mig wrote:On November 19 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also what do you think of supersoft? He waffled on some bullshit balancecrap earlier on today, then said he'll look into BH and disappeared. SS has done a bunch of stuff I have been suspicious of. Everyone says he is an amazing analyzer but I haven't seen him put in effort and do much of it (oats stuff is ok tho). That being said, he said he was probably going to kill Mocsta right at the end of the day if VE didn't come back. There is almost no way mafia would do this and throw away a 2kp vig for a day1 lynch. Unless he knew VE was coming back I have a hard time seeing him as mafia. A bunch of stuff? Like what? I wanted to kill mocsta and i was one vote away from doing it/10minutes away from doing it. and rayn, please stop dump nonesense in this thread. It's extremely annoying. You provide nothing. All you do is demanding masons to claim and creating wild theories about trollBH.
How is your BH filter dive going?
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Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread?
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On November 19 2013 05:06 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is supersoft doing nothing and not even reading the thread? maybe he doesnt wanna catch scum¿¿¿
I think this is the case too. Maybe you should shoot him in the face ^_^
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Hey VE, did BH mason you on D1?
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VE answer that before you anything at all.
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Okay so there are 7 masons then rofl :D
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On November 19 2013 05:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 05:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
A replacement would have to catch up on 3000 posts rather than 1000, VE. That hardly seems like a good choice. Presumably those on the replacement list are aware of their replacement status and are following along. But I see your point. I just need time then.
I hope you are able to catch up.
If you do this as scum you are a cheap fucker.
Dick move analysis says VE is town.
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On November 18 2013 23:17 supersoft wrote:
Yes. An Oatslynch is still on the table.
I am going to dig through his former games and I am going to reread BH and dig through his former games.
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I would shut up but it's too hilarious. I wanna see supersoft "reporting me" to marv who had a 55 page filter in last 13player mini game on D3. :p
Okay now i shut up. ^^
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supersoft may i ask you what are you trying to do?
How does that help anyone if you are town? rly?
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On November 19 2013 05:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
So BH is a mason too? SO MANY MASONS!!!
No he's probably not. I assumed he might be.
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On November 19 2013 05:40 Pandain wrote:
Rayn SS was basically mayor since VE was afk, and he wanted to lynch Mocsta. That's pretty evident enough.
He also has done analysis, his mason with me was very good and he gave thoughts on lots of people. Stop harassing him
So where are both of your scumreads?
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