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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:26 GMT
#789
lynch to improve the town atmosphere. Very interesting.
What do you think about me. Did we play together before? How do you remember me?

Answer quickly and don't research me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:28 GMT
#792
btw. not related to the current discussion:
BC we need to talk. ;-)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:28 GMT
#793
On November 15 2013 20:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 20:26 supersoft wrote:
lynch to improve the town atmosphere. Very interesting.
What do you think about me. Did we play together before? How do you remember me?

Answer quickly and don't research me.

I played with you together in a game a while back where you smurfed. Don't remember the exact name of the game. I remember you as being a dick.


okay. Do you read the thread? what do you think do the other players think about me.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:42 GMT
#796
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:44 GMT
#797
"hey dude, long time no see <3"
"I love you, in a bro way, yo"
"gonna vote VE, because he's a cool guy"
"i am happy to lynch Supers, because he's not nice"

Guys... what's wrong with you?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 11:44 GMT
#798
Wait a second. Are you a girl? Artanis? because that definetely makes perfect sense!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 12:45 GMT
#820
On November 15 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 12:13 austinmcc wrote:
rayn, risen, and sharrant, I want to sit down and chat with you guys. Individually, for the most part.

rayn
(1) Are you town?
(2) Please unpack this statement:
On November 15 2013 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yo Pandain i like that you didn't like Sharrant. Dat post you brought up was pretty bad.
What, in particular, did you not like about that post? Does the rest of sharrant's filter do anything for you?

1) yes
2) the tone of his first post is too serious (regarding electing kush) and idk why would he even entertain the idea of voting for someone who hasn't actually posted yet. like giving out townreads on people before they posted? already putting up some arbitary group he will choose his mayoral vote from? why?

For same reason i dislike supersoft. It's not like the mayor will "YOLO i lynch this guy and not listen to anyone" unless they want to get lynched the next day. So yeah, not considering every player in the game for possibly mayor at the start of the game is really scummy.


When did I say that I or BC will lynch someone and not listen to you? wtf. I said we elect one of us as mayor. I didn't say he can chose whoever he wants.
Stop incriminating me, okay? Seriously. If you keep playing like that, we need to kill you at some point.
A townie has no interest to accuse someone for something he never said.

On November 15 2013 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 15 2013 21:36 yamato77 wrote:
lonemeow hasn't posted in the thread yet masoned me

interesting thought process

I kinda think that makes him town.


I disagree. Masoning yamato is a slight towntell, since he's agressive and definetely not naiv, so as scum it's a risky move.
However not posting and just masoning is scummy.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 12:49 GMT
#824
On November 15 2013 21:47 yamato77 wrote:
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On November 15 2013 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually Risen seems to have really paranoid reads as town day 1.

doesn't help anything, really

but you're right


Do you have a history with lonemeow?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 12:56 GMT
#827
On November 15 2013 21:53 yamato77 wrote:
I correctly read his alignment in the last big normal when a lot of people were calling him mafia

I don't remember actually interacting with him, but maybe it impressed him or something?

I'm also playing pretty townie so it's not crazy to mason me.
'
Perhaps he thought he had to mason early to use his power at all, as Marv clarified was not the case, and then just sent in first guy he got a townread on. He DID say he was going to be busy this weekend.

It's also kind of odd for a mafia player to do something like that which is so overtly attention-grabbing.


hmm so you defended him? can you link me the game? I just want to understand his thoughtprocess.
I agree, that you established your townieness well, so i don't disagree with his masoning choice. it makes perfect sense for a townmason. But i wanna doublecheck
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 12:59 GMT
#830
btw. Artanis, i thought about our little conversation. I don't buy it, that you think i am a dick and you'd /outed that game if you'd seen that i am /in.
This story is weak covering attempt for your scummy statement, that you're completely happy lynching me, even though, you think I am 0 (obviously you know that I am town, since you're scum, so your statements make even more sense.)
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 13:00 GMT
#831
On November 15 2013 21:58 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 21:56 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 21:53 yamato77 wrote:
I correctly read his alignment in the last big normal when a lot of people were calling him mafia

I don't remember actually interacting with him, but maybe it impressed him or something?

I'm also playing pretty townie so it's not crazy to mason me.
'
Perhaps he thought he had to mason early to use his power at all, as Marv clarified was not the case, and then just sent in first guy he got a townread on. He DID say he was going to be busy this weekend.

It's also kind of odd for a mafia player to do something like that which is so overtly attention-grabbing.


hmm so you defended him? can you link me the game? I just want to understand his thoughtprocess.
I agree, that you established your townieness well, so i don't disagree with his masoning choice. it makes perfect sense for a townmason. But i wanna doublecheck

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=LoneMeow

Even better, he was actually the doctor that saved me N1 while not even talking about me at all.

I guess it's not that inconsistent at all, really. At least we can reasonably assume he's not automatically mafia for this.


Okay, that's perfect. I like it. it's a reasonable story. Thanks
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 13:03 GMT
#832
On November 15 2013 22:00 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 21:58 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 21:56 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 21:53 yamato77 wrote:
I correctly read his alignment in the last big normal when a lot of people were calling him mafia

I don't remember actually interacting with him, but maybe it impressed him or something?

I'm also playing pretty townie so it's not crazy to mason me.
'
Perhaps he thought he had to mason early to use his power at all, as Marv clarified was not the case, and then just sent in first guy he got a townread on. He DID say he was going to be busy this weekend.

It's also kind of odd for a mafia player to do something like that which is so overtly attention-grabbing.


hmm so you defended him? can you link me the game? I just want to understand his thoughtprocess.
I agree, that you established your townieness well, so i don't disagree with his masoning choice. it makes perfect sense for a townmason. But i wanna doublecheck

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=LoneMeow

Even better, he was actually the doctor that saved me N1 while not even talking about me at all.

I guess it's not that inconsistent at all, really. At least we can reasonably assume he's not automatically mafia for this.


Okay, that's perfect. I like it. it's a reasonable story. Thanks


You know, he obviously respects you as a strong townplayer, since he saved you the game before.
Makes no sense from a scummasonperspective to mason a strong townplayer.
I think the most reasonable use for scummasonpowers is to not use them at all. At least if you're lonemoew and not availiable for d1.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 13:07 GMT
#835
On November 15 2013 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
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On November 15 2013 21:59 supersoft wrote:
btw. Artanis, i thought about our little conversation. I don't buy it, that you think i am a dick and you'd /outed that game if you'd seen that i am /in.
This story is weak covering attempt for your scummy statement, that you're completely happy lynching me, even though, you think I am 0 (obviously you know that I am town, since you're scum, so your statements make even more sense.)


This is beyond childish and I can't see any logical thought path behind what you are saying. He calls you a dick and said he would lynch you for it, it's clearly policy, being an active dick in the thread isn't helping anyone.

A scum artanis could just ignore you because you shit up the thread and get people edgy, what benefit is there to calling you out on it? A town player on the other hand can most definitely say what he has been saying.


I just don't buy his story. It's artificial and exaggerated
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 13:55 GMT
#861
On November 15 2013 22:50 Mocsta wrote:
@Supersoft, - 2 questions
(1) Is VE still dodgy, or has artanis taken his stead?
+
(2) What do you think of Hopeless1der?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=Hopeless1der

I am aware that he was only present during the very early game where trolling is common; however, I find this quote unusual for town to make.
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On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run?

Maybe this is written very dry and the joke is going over my head; but I am interpreting this as giving contemplation to voting VE.

BTW, which occurs here:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:49 Coagulation wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Any campaign for kush gets a solid "yeah, no" from me. No offense to kush but I did kind of tell yamato i wanted to win.


kush is really good at scum hunting actually. probably better than 90% of the players here. Hes just non communique

*must...not...feeed....troll*

##Vote: VisceraEyes


My issue is that, I don't think a townie would given any sort of consideration to that criteria for considering a mayor.
Fact is, town want in a mayor someone they think is a good player + standing out as town + has identified why their lynch choice is a solid candidate.
You're a deep analyser of motivation; do you agree that the above is not evident in the mindset of Hopelss1der?


(1) No, I am slightly leaning town on both of them right now. Their behaviour fits their townplay. it's okay. Feel slightly better about VE. Artanis is little more than 0.

(2) got to think about this.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 14:13 GMT
#885
On November 15 2013 23:09 Koshi wrote:
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On November 15 2013 23:06 Mocsta wrote:
On November 15 2013 23:05 Koshi wrote:
LoneMeow
Explain to me why you Masoned Yamato.


L2R
On November 15 2013 22:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Just to clear up why I masoned before posting:

I read my role and it said to send the PM "at the beginning of cycle". It already being quite a few hours since the cycle started when I woke up, I just looked at the player list and picked someone before reading the thread.


Worst reason ever. Why Yamato.

Because do you see how people like rayn give LoneMeow a townread for picking Yamato. But how did LoneMeow now this before reading the thread that he had to Mason Yamato. Why not somebody he played with in the newbies? Or somebody that understand how he posts. Or somebody he scumhunts easy with.

Why Yamato


read my posts regarding this topic.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 14:53 GMT
#927
On November 15 2013 23:43 Koshi wrote:
supersoft
Do you really want to be Mayor? Your first post:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:59 supersoft wrote:
okay okay okay, i think we need to elect me for mayor. Otherwise it's yet another game where i pass away n1.


Your second post is you trying to stir up Yamato/VE who were at that point the most active posters in the thread that also wanted to be Mayor. The same second that you posted this you should have known that they would be mad. Why did you post this?
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Oats said that you search for confrontation and are able to read people after that? But to me this looks like plain old shitting up the thread for no reason at all.
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.


oh god, you're reatarded.

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:21 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

This is false. Please address the post where I explain what my reasoning for not liking your statement actually is.


On November 15 2013 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Fuck this. This is garbage.


You mean this peace of wisdom???

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 09:24 supersoft wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:
lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown.

On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out


That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate.
Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you?
Seriously yamato...

Yeah, super's mafia.

Not so fast super-friend. super is an arrogant ass regardless of alignment. We must continue to observe. Patiently.

super's not this bad as town, is he?

super does stuff like say controversial stuff to see how people react. Is it bad? Who's to say? I'm willing to write him off as arrogant and observe others. What do you think of Oats and his blatant lies? Typical non-reading-shittalking? Or something slightly more sinister?


Write me off and "observe others"
you're pretty dodgy.

...

You enter the thread claiming that you need to be elected. But instead of gathering support you are shitting up the thread and annoying the living shit out of VE and Yamato. Why? If you want to be elected, wouldn't it be better to play nice with these 2?

Btw, what is your read on VE and Yamato atm?


My campaign doesnt include being nice. I want people to vote for me because it's the right way to win this game.
I die n1 in about 80% of my towngames, so it makes perfect sense to protect me.

I don't care if they get angry or not or whatever. All i care about is finding scum among them. I love to see when people comment on me, since I know that I am town and scum knows that I am town. Only townies don't know my alignment and therefor their analysis of my play isn't artificial or biased.
it's my way to play day1. after day1 when I have some flips, I reread the thread and see what people said about the people that flipped. But for now I only know my alignment. Does that make sense to you...?

+ If you filter me correctly and not only read my first few posts where i provoke reactions, you wouldn't ask questions about my reads on VE and yamato. I already said, that yamato established himself well as town, and i also already said, that i lean town on VE.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 15:11 GMT
#943
On November 16 2013 00:00 Koshi wrote:
Ok I missed that 1 line in which supersoft says he leans town on VE and Yam. Not the biggest fan on how he entered the thread. But it's cool.


o_o
flip flop

but yes, now I understand what you want from me. It's actually very reasonable.
You question my motivations, which is good. And you make a fair point:

I said I want to be mayor, however I attack everyone. And I didn't follow my mayoral campaign up, this ends now:
______________________________________________________________________

to make this clear:

I am still running for mayor.
- I think i'll have a positive impact on this game if i survive to day3-4
- I usually die early, so i need protection.

- I happily lynch someone if I get elected, I am cool with lynching someone the majority choses, and I am even more cool with lynching someone I chose.

- I think I can establish my townieness very, very well over the next days and therefor I am also cool with getting elected as pardoner.

If you elect me as pardoner, I want you to know that I have a strict policy regarding lynches.
I love to lynch for information. Almost every lynch is (95%) is good for town in my eyes. (Only a Palmar/BC d1 lynches suck) And therefor, I'll probably never use the pardonder power.

My policy regarding the doublelynch is, we doublelynch after we catched scum, because then we have enough information to lynch 2 scummers.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 15:39 GMT
#968
On November 16 2013 00:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On November 15 2013 20:42 supersoft wrote:
pfff always the same with you guys... this is a game. Play your role. Play to win. This isn't a forum to friendly chat with each other. this is mafia, you want to create an uncomfortable situation for scum. Friendly chatting with each other is a situation which is optimal for scum.
Scum has to be afraid to post, because everything will be looked very closely.
If you think it's okay to post things that are completely against your wincondition, you're wrong here and you're playing bad.

You realize that there's a bit of a gap between being overly friendly and antagonizing every single person you see at any given opportunity right? Posts like
On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
Btw.: Everyone who votes anyone else than mig, BC or myself is playing antitown.
I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else.

Are never going to help town because it's going to get a bunch of townies mad. People that are mad tend to not enjoy playing the game. People that don't enjoy the game either spam the thread to show their anger, making it unreadable, or cut down on their posting drastically. This isn't a game of extremes, and this isn't the first time people have told you this as you're well aware of given you started with "always the same with you guys". Perhaps some inner reflection is in order?

People play games because they enjoy them. That's the entire point of the game. It's in fact possible to analyze people without being a dick. You just haven't tried yet. If you're willing to do that, then I'm happy to give my full collaboration.

Unless you're scum of course, in which case you shall die a horrible fiery death.

This is also good.

Avoid insults and read the thread and find mafia. Easier said than done but it can be done.


And who provoked a good post like that? Man I am on fire this game.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 16:00 GMT
#974
just read it to the end okay? ^_^
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 15 2013 16:54 GMT
#996
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275&user=StorrZerg

okayokay BC, he's not directly playing the newbiecard, but between the lines, you're right:

On November 15 2013 08:36 StorrZerg wrote:
yamato77 will have to back me as well.

he knows that I hunt for scum.

also we should lynch people who claim mafia, 100% pro town tip


On November 15 2013 08:38 StorrZerg wrote:
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On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?



Kill people who claim to be mafia

claim rng for first lynch (prob not but need to keep people active)

hunt scum

lynch them with fire



blargh, useless fillers.

On November 15 2013 08:43 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 08:38 yamato77 wrote:
On November 15 2013 08:35 Mig wrote:
For the people who are actually serious about running for mayor, what is going to be your day 1 lynch strategy? Vote for a lurker/go with your gut/town consensus/etc?

We could reasonably select mayors based on how much we like their lynch choices.

That will be my main platform, anyway. Any political support I give should I step out of the race would have to be to a player I think is actually going to lynch mafia.


How about an active guy?
a guy that is looking out for the town because he is town!


time to let some fresh blood lead the town straight and true
im the clear and easy town read, no chance to be scum.



he proposes something and makes the proposal weak in the same post by exaggerating his point (bolded)

On November 15 2013 09:50 StorrZerg wrote:
Joke
ill be great
whywon't peoplee let the scrub give it a go
I'll try and make a bigger impact tomorrow, today is just not good for posting


newbiecard?
+ excuses.

is he really that bad when scum? Or is he just trolling as town...
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