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On November 15 2013 12:01 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see much different from normal Alak tbh
Do you have a special way of reading him VE? This is an immediate red flag. This is the first game ever- literally the first game ever where I have not been insane troll logic spewing left and right. I don't know that you could possibly be reading me this game, I haven't posted a single YouTube video or reference to "page 35", or anything TL about me here. As for OMGUS where are the CHUPAZI spam, the pictures of vultures crows and cockfights, the talking about nitrogen and all manner of random BS? So here is who I'd vote to lynch right here VE how convenient
Short of resistance but I still wasn't trying as hard to be downright cold as this game.
I agree with VE that I will gladly be an ass in mafia but I also agree with Coag that I have Laugh USA in my radio for that and John Pinette is as much funnier than I am as he is heavier.
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On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an  Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation looks the same to me.
The last one is the only one I could conceivably see as being similar
Did you even understand me before? Or do I still fail to get my thoughts across?
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On November 15 2013 12:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +fml I had to write this out twice because I had so many tabs open ~_~ @ rayn's post earlier: HereYou claim that my case was in fact bad but then you agree with everything that I had specifically laid out within it, what gives? Did you just not read it? Clearly there were no good reads at that present time and for a mayor to be established reads must be thrown around, which is exactly what I was saying. Your choice of mayor is based entirely off if you agree with their reads? Why? You also debase the entirety of it because of the one line that said if "I failed to lynch my top scum read S". The plurality in reads assumes that one would live past day 1 and be able to use their double voting power as you cannot lynch multiple reads on day 1. There is also: On November 15 2013 10:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay ignoring Risen for the rest of D1. You were scum partners with risen in heavyweight. You know he is crazy and will literally do anything or write anything to win. How can you be so quick to have a town read on him based off of a post? He has won world champs and also has the "best mafia play" award or whatever. To quite openly say you will not read him for the rest of day 1 is making me apprehensive to say the least. ____________________________________________________________________________ @rest of the town Also some other things that struck me as odd; Hopeless' start to the game: On November 15 2013 08:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
VE you got some credentials? How many successful mayor campaigns have you run? I've played one game with this guy and in that game (he was town) at the very start he was trying to contribute to current conversations and get things talking. This games start has been very lackluster from him. After asking VE about his past mayor games VE responds that he has been mayor once and he died night 1. By no means are they solid credentials in any terms. His contributions were just useless "won't vote for kush" posts. He then drops his mayor vote onto VE after hearing about his 1 game experience and leaves the thread. _____________________________________________________________________________________ I'm actually leaning a bit more suspiciously towards rayn right now; however I thought it was interesting to see these 2 posts just as I refreshed. + Show Spoiler +On November 15 2013 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:05 Risen wrote:
I'll vote anyone who makes their platform lynching rayn. You get modkilled for not voting. :p
What's wrongwith Oats this game? He's like a bit more dick than usually. On November 15 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
So what I dont like about Mocsta's mayor post is that its very staged and rehearsed. Which obviously is scummy because town dont need to make up shit and make sure it sounds nice.
The thing with Storrzerg, like the stuff he says is objectively scummy. Sure. Noob claiming and all that. But town do it too.
On the other hand, he doesnt normally post so reservedly.
So in conclusion, I am null on Storrzerg and null on Mocsta. Oats baby. Read my case again I gave one of stores first posts from Hogwarts. A similar sized game. He came out guns blazing. The analysis was wrong. But more importantly it was there, unlike this game.
Oats, shy are you so prickly this game.
Normally you are obnoxious, but tidY you feel venomous.Why so angry? P.s. I'm more referring to your interactions with V.E Obviously no associative tells between unflipped players yada yada but I find it "psychologically intriguing" when people bring up similarities like that. Obviously if you are scum, the posts that stick out to you the most are your scum partners and so you can subconsciously repeat them etc. However, this is a lackluster point to say the least just something I'd thought I'd note.
I would say at the least, yes. At most that sort of thinking should make you take WIFOM to even deeper levels than I find myself doing. Which is a waste of thought.
I'm only replying to the very end of your post.
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On November 15 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up. On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly. On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation looks the same to me. The last one is the only one I could conceivably see as being similar Did you even understand me before? Or do I still fail to get my thoughts across? I never understood you.
So do you now? How the hell am I supposed to word things? I have stopped trolling and my head hurts with the assumption of -_- during my leisure time. It's like working a 16 hour day for kicks but I'm thinking it will pay off irl to become more serious here.
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On November 15 2013 12:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:14 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 15 2013 12:07 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 15 2013 10:53 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:05 supersoft wrote:
By the way.: Everyone who votes outside voting for mig, BC, BlazingHand, or myself is playing antitown.
At least, I don't even consider giving my vote anyone else. I fixed this for you, retaining all of your true intent, adding some compatible intent in te form of an inside joke, and containing equally flawed logic. Wouldn't it be convenient if this was the scum team? Highly unlikely, but then it is highly unlikely that any single player is scum- yet there is a guarantee of at least one. Therefore, you should elect players based on what they say, being WARY of those who have shown exceptional skill as well as those who have little or no skill. In fact, we want an absolute moderate with regard to meta until a veteran has sufficiently shown themselves to be town to earn our trust- in which case a veteran becomes ideal. This point is why I usually talk about Svengali at some point. However, that is just an attempt to sound laughable- a meta I plan to give one last ditch effort to destroy here before turning wholly to co/hosting games with the very occasional /in. Therefore, I will from now on refer to it thus; "The Peid Piper Problem". The pied piper mislead a bunch of rats through skill; so also can forum vets who rolled scum. I'm not an Assassin, therefore I'm not running for mayor. That was the only case in which I actually planned to run. I am still catching up. On November 15 2013 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 09:19 supersoft wrote:On November 15 2013 09:18 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:17 supersoft wrote:lol VE and yamato are pissed, because they're not considered to be serious candidates... No surpise. And not exactly protown. On November 15 2013 09:01 yamato77 wrote:
electing someone so they don't get shot is not my idea of how D1 should play out That is exactly how we should play. And your ideas are exactly the reason, why you're no serious candidate. Who guarantees me that you not just fold and leave the game after d1 if we elect you? Seriously yamato... Yeah, super's mafia. oh god, you're reatarded. I disagree. Either: He is right, you are scum, Or: He is wrong, you both interact poorly here Or: He is not only wrong, but he is intentionally wrong and actually Pied-Pipering you. Or: something else. But VE is far from idiocy, I can give you am example of idiocy in a heartbeat and in fact will do so. Game: Newbie Mini Mafia XLVIII Filter: Alakaslam Game: Aperture Mafia 2: Part 2 Filter: Alakaslam For alignment specific idiocy. Do not insult needlessly. On November 15 2013 11:46 Alakaslam wrote:Caught up. I don't trust VE but I don't think he is scum yet. I don't claim to be able to read him; this is just a pair of Lincoln coppers I used to own. Coag, I will probably do that, in inside jokes dispersed here an Blazinghand d there, if you want to waste your tunnel on me over that know that it is a waste, therefore antitown unless there are reasons to think I would THE GREAT bloody cobbler as scum- so give reasons why that is a valid reason to tunnel me if that is an honest threat. That being said, I'm moving on to the vote thread after a bit more deliberation looks the same to me. The last one is the only one I could conceivably see as being similar Did you even understand me before? Or do I still fail to get my thoughts across? I never understood you. So do you now? How the hell am I supposed to word things? I have stopped trolling and my head hurts with the assumption of -_- during my leisure time. It's like working a 16 hour day for kicks but I'm thinking it will pay off irl to become more serious here. I still dont really understand you. Its ok, just play the game and dont care about whether I can read properly.
If this is actually the case your ability to read is less important than my apparent inability to write as I am town deadweight in that situation. I see this as alignment indicative to an extent though, so I would prefer a bit more help or a better comparison from you.
VE no comment? Did you get what you were asking for?
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On November 15 2013 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what you are asking me Alak.
Your writing style cant be changed. Thats fine.
Dissus just a kumpleetlee phalse statement yo
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On November 15 2013 12:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont know what you are asking me Alak.
Your writing style cant be changed. Thats fine.
This statement is incorrect, and if I work quickly enough, it will be apparent.
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Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming
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On November 15 2013 12:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
See its clearly my problem.
So what is the cause? This is not usual for you far as I can see. I know I am not in the best position to talk about what is usual when I am purposefully setting out to destroy my own meta, but it is what I have to go in until you clarify a bit using some specifics.
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On November 15 2013 12:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:25 Alakaslam wrote:
Dang it Mocsta.
Well anyway I think some are mistaking sharrant for Storrzerg or Softiforget, because woah I did not see that coming I thought you caught up with the thread? Sharrant has been mentioned quite a few times for his posts and austin just linked some to risen. What is your take on him (filter dive his 1-2 posts)?
With regard to me being caught up on the thread. One bit of advice Raynepelikoneet and IamPerfection have given me is to not get lost in the woods for the sake I inspecting every tree. I am now taking this a step further: if I think the type of tree you plant in these woods is useless, I will just shy of ignore it. So that tells you what I thought. That being said I will read his couple posts.
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There isn't any reason to even be discussing sharrant right now what I can see based on his filter, but I will go see if anyone answered him.
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On November 15 2013 12:39 Mattchew wrote:
i think VE is town,
that is all
You have a really poor show this game but it is better than nothing.
Explain your read on VE since "that is all" is tough to swallow. "Gut read" is an explanation albeit weak.
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On November 15 2013 12:40 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 15 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote:On November 15 2013 09:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
Thats cool VE. but this was my plan before I got a role. I think its a good one ^__^ Obviously a claim. I think he meant before he got his role PM. "I think it's a good one" is, I think, referring to his plan, not the role. He said "a role" not "my role". It's a claim.
I'm with oats on this Yamato, don't be stretching a stretch- it snaps
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On November 15 2013 12:50 Holyflare wrote:
Yamato is a smelly fart head.
I want him to make a square with us though :O!
Useless insults. Feh on this.
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On November 15 2013 12:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 12:51 austinmcc wrote:
I will continue to watch you, VE, but right now I don't want to make you insta-mayor. You don't have the power to do that even if you did. All I'm asking for is one measly little vote.
I am almost willing to do this but I feel like I am one easily piped.
*"Piped" is my term replacing "SVENGALID". The concept is still there and it is rich with meaning, like the word troll.
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On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.
Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.
Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.
Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.
Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative.
If anything anyone could say particularly indicated "town" everyone would post that every game. Which is why there isn't such a thing.
Yamato's post here highlights that nicely and I wanted to take an opportunity to point it out.
That being said, I take it personally as a failure to ditch my meta and will continue under that assumption. I will prove my alignment, and I will not be lynched. If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. This statement should not indicate my alignment as it is WIFOM.
Coag who do you want for mayor and am I swinging BH?
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On November 15 2013 13:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:
If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. I disagree with this statement. Even good players get lynched as town (ask Foolishness.) Even good players get lynched frequently as town (ask Ace). Even good players are wrong (ask BC.) Even good players are wrong often (you can take my word on this one.) Never give up hope. When you give up hope, scum have truly and completely won.
But what then when I am actually scum myself? XD
But this is the real me, I am perfectionist-lazy. Bad combo but like any bad/good hybrid, better than just lazy.
Dinnae worry though I will prove myself able here
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On November 15 2013 13:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Austin I want to see sharrant post more before I make a judgement on him. I do this as someone who doesn't really remember his play from much (i dont read games I don't play in normally and hes never left a lasting impression with me) Risen however has made a post that I fucking loath. Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 11:41 Risen wrote:
Can't be bothered to read all this. Love it when I'm scum, reason I hate being town. Anyone who cannot be bothered to read a game of mafia from start to finish when town should be fucking banned from playing. I seriously cannot get behind people who do this shit.
And it's not even all that long yet the first 15 pages is pregame chatter.
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On November 15 2013 13:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Pretty bad start given that people want you to be mayor
I think said people are trolling
Funny Kush's timing however
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On November 15 2013 13:06 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 13:03 Alakaslam wrote:On November 15 2013 12:55 yamato77 wrote:
Even if I misinterpreted hiro's singular post, the rest of his filter is still drivel and I think he fits nicely in the category of useless players posting nonsense when there's reads to discuss.
Pandain looks better than he did early game, but grack is still being a useless fuck and is in the same category as hiro.
Super is more belligerent than I've ever seen him and also overall not seemingly invested too much into the actual game. His start to the game was rocky at best and he came under fire for it rightly so. His response was to OMGUS and insult the people calling him out, and then never to commit fully to any reads.
Mig's one post was pro town but it was essentially meaningless. Of the "conversation" Moc talked about, this is the most interesting aspect because Mig never followed up on the question or offered his own thoughts. Perhaps he is a generally lurky player, but I expect better if he,s supposedly a vet.
Oats and VE are my two solid town reads. Everyone else either hasn't posted at all or isn't posting anything I find alignment indicative. If anything anyone could say particularly indicated "town" everyone would post that every game. Which is why there isn't such a thing. Yamato's post here highlights that nicely and I wanted to take an opportunity to point it out. That being said, I take it personally as a failure to ditch my meta and will continue under that assumption. I will prove my alignment, and I will not be lynched. If I am lynched this game I am absolutely at a loss to improve. This statement should not indicate my alignment as it is WIFOM. Coag who do you want for mayor and am I swinging BH? thought you were scum now i dont
Is it all gut sir.
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