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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:15 GMT
#3141
sec i need to draw a picture.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:22 GMT
#3150
On November 19 2013 01:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On November 19 2013 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was an indirect lie?


Yamato had me as a town read, not want to kill me. He stopped wanting to off me what? halfway mark of day 1.

Thats an indirect lie as you cherry picked his words to find something he did actually say, but he had also changed his opinion and stated that in game.

Also as a note, you may not have liked my conclusions but go look at his filter from personality 2. He interacts with austin twice day 1 then ignores his team almost fully until town has been so fucked up the asshole he has to talk to his team. You don't like my conclusions is fine, but from a meta stand point it makes perfect sense. Don't like why I think grack could still be scum? Read how mocsta was crafting his messages in personality. Everything was careful and had no real emotion behind it. He looks genuinely pissed at grack on their back and forths. He didnt react that way with anyone else except grack. Why? You may not like my conclusion but the reasoning behind it is fairly sound.

Yeah i agree he did not want you dead at the end of N1. You were one of the people he had accused. That's not a strong point anyways, and i didn't mean it like that.

Can you explain the "Mocsta's scum-meta suggests he does not interact with his scumbuddies, therefore all these people here are town with no other explanation" and right after "but Grackaroni is scum because Moscta talked about him"?

Also can you comment on my analyses on why i think Grackaroni is town and tell me why would Mocsta bus him because what you and BH are suggesting is absurd as hell. Tell me why would Mocsta leave no room other than to bus his teammate on D2 over ~10 other options that definitely do not make him look any worse?


His meta shows he distances himself and almost exclusively talks with town. He tunnels a townie he views as bad (storr). He then does everything else he did this game which is try and not be on radars. I am saying grack is different because of HOW he talked to him. Read personality 2, read this games filter. His interactions with grack are completely different than any other he had. He seems in this game to have a genuine reaction of anger/annoyance/whatever to grack. The guy carefully writes posts. Why would his interactions with 1 player be completely different from everything else his meta suggests? I would say cause he was legit pissed at grack for tunneling the shit out of him. I am reading it off of one specific reaction. Could I be wrong? Yes. However Grack has done basically nothing this game to make me doubt that read of the situation. If mocsta was as pissed as I think he was it would make perfect sense to still dive on grack.

Am i reading this correct. mafia!Mocsta was genuinely pissed off with mafia!Grackaroni for Grack tunneling Mocsta?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:26 GMT
#3156
On November 19 2013 01:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was an indirect lie?


Yamato had me as a town read, not want to kill me. He stopped wanting to off me what? halfway mark of day 1.

Thats an indirect lie as you cherry picked his words to find something he did actually say, but he had also changed his opinion and stated that in game.

Also as a note, you may not have liked my conclusions but go look at his filter from personality 2. He interacts with austin twice day 1 then ignores his team almost fully until town has been so fucked up the asshole he has to talk to his team. You don't like my conclusions is fine, but from a meta stand point it makes perfect sense. Don't like why I think grack could still be scum? Read how mocsta was crafting his messages in personality. Everything was careful and had no real emotion behind it. He looks genuinely pissed at grack on their back and forths. He didnt react that way with anyone else except grack. Why? You may not like my conclusion but the reasoning behind it is fairly sound.

Yeah i agree he did not want you dead at the end of N1. You were one of the people he had accused. That's not a strong point anyways, and i didn't mean it like that.

Can you explain the "Mocsta's scum-meta suggests he does not interact with his scumbuddies, therefore all these people here are town with no other explanation" and right after "but Grackaroni is scum because Moscta talked about him"?

Also can you comment on my analyses on why i think Grackaroni is town and tell me why would Mocsta bus him because what you and BH are suggesting is absurd as hell. Tell me why would Mocsta leave no room other than to bus his teammate on D2 over ~10 other options that definitely do not make him look any worse?


His meta shows he distances himself and almost exclusively talks with town. He tunnels a townie he views as bad (storr). He then does everything else he did this game which is try and not be on radars. I am saying grack is different because of HOW he talked to him. Read personality 2, read this games filter. His interactions with grack are completely different than any other he had. He seems in this game to have a genuine reaction of anger/annoyance/whatever to grack. The guy carefully writes posts. Why would his interactions with 1 player be completely different from everything else his meta suggests? I would say cause he was legit pissed at grack for tunneling the shit out of him. I am reading it off of one specific reaction. Could I be wrong? Yes. However Grack has done basically nothing this game to make me doubt that read of the situation. If mocsta was as pissed as I think he was it would make perfect sense to still dive on grack.

Am i reading this correct. mafia!Mocsta was genuinely pissed off with mafia!Grackaroni for Grack tunneling Mocsta?



its how I'd read it yes. I can say as someone whos done some filter diving that mocsta wasn't really heavily picked up as a potential mafia by many people until after the bit between the two and grack was one of the more vocal people about the push. Could I be wrong? yes, but its completely out of place reaction type. If you don't believe my conclusion the information I used is open to anyone else to analyze.

Well this is maybe the worst case i have ever heard. Sorry.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:32 GMT
#3166
supersoft how is that filter diving going? It's been quite long time since you started it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:49 GMT
#3170
Could people (especially thrawn) comment on Blazinghands sQumslip and if you think that's not a scumslip how do you explain it?

If you have no answer you cannot tell people to look into Grack because if Blazinghand is scum Grack is 100% town because he was meant to be scumteams D2 mislynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:51 GMT
#3172
So BC does not want mafia outed. check.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:55 GMT
#3175
On November 19 2013 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
What BC? Can you guess what reasons the people have for not outing masons?
Why is outing masons good for scum and bad for town?

Yeah this is looking worse and worse for BC.

Basically BC should be calling thrawn, Pandain and Lonemeow scum because they have outed masons in thread for no reason.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:56 GMT
#3177
On November 19 2013 01:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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On November 19 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So BC does not want mafia outed. check.


Explain how it outs mafia please.

Id agree that sure there are likely scum within the masons however we have

what? 7 or 8 at this point running around/confirmed by death?

How can you confirm that with 2 more names to the pool you have guarenteed mafia?

If VE gives me a certain name there is a pool of 3 people where there is 2 scum guaranteed. Of course this is not certain as i can't know what name he gives me but given what has been going on in this game i am pretty sure he will give just that name.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:57 GMT
#3178
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked

Thrawn answer this post immediately. You are not allowed to call Grack scum until you debunk this argument.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 16:59 GMT
#3181
On November 19 2013 01:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So BC does not want mafia outed. check.


Explain how it outs mafia please.

Id agree that sure there are likely scum within the masons however we have

what? 7 or 8 at this point running around/confirmed by death?

How can you confirm that with 2 more names to the pool you have guarenteed mafia?

If VE gives me a certain name there is a pool of 3 people where there is 2 scum guaranteed. Of course this is not certain as i can't know what name he gives me but given what has been going on in this game i am pretty sure he will give just that name.

are these names magic? This is a normal game, how can you guarantee scum based on setup? Rayne this is ludicrous and needs to stop.

No i know people are lying in case the certain name pops up. It's 100% guaranteed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:02 GMT
#3184
On November 19 2013 02:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 18 2013 16:19 Blazinghand wrote:
like i'm kind of amazed people took that seriously. I didn't get RBed or shot so clearly scum didn't believe me so I guess I fucked up that chance to be cool but like come on man you aren't telling me you actually thought that crumb made sense? ._.

Actually this post makes no sense because BH here retracts from his tracker claim and in that case he can't possibly know if he was roleblocked or not. Soooo..

/dunked

Thrawn answer this post immediately. You are not allowed to call Grack scum until you debunk this argument.


because he's not a tracker so everything he says regarding his tracker actions are bs

/facepalm

HE SAYS HE WAS NOT ROLEBLOCKED. IN THE SAME POST HE RETRACTS FROM HIS TRACKER CLAIM?
srsly you can't read or are you scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:04 GMT
#3187
VisceraEyes i rephrase my question:
Was it BlazingHand who masoned you on D1 or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:05 GMT
#3190
There is no reason to lie because he is going to flip anyways at the end of the phase.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:08 GMT
#3194
On November 19 2013 02:06 OOHCHILD wrote:
bc is making sense to me. Mocsta treated grack differently than he treated anyone else which is indicative of a scum connection.

If you think that makes Grackaroni scum you have absolutely no idea how to scumhunt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:13 GMT
#3198
You ahve been telling me to read Grackaroni. I am not going to read Grackaroni because it's a waste of time because all cases on him are shit connection cases based on that he accused Moscta of being scum (lol) and then Mocsta got mad at him (lol). Also if Blazinghand is scum which he is because he is one of these idiots making terribad cases on Grack and he scumslipped in thread, Grackaroni can't possibly be mafia. There is no fucking way mafia decided on N1 "let's all buss Grackaroni to the death".

If you believe that to be the case you are either scum or need to seriously reconsider how good you are at mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:15 GMT
#3200
On November 19 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
If BH flips green and his dieing wish is that we lynch Grack. Will you do allow it rayn?

Then i will reconsider. But i can tell you BH is not going to flip green. There is no fucking way that's gonna happen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:17 GMT
#3203
So unless someone makes a real case on Grackaroni (something that's not "he accused a scum dude who got mad on him therefore 100% bus") i am not willing to listen anything about Grackaroni.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:21 GMT
#3207
Your case on Grackaroni is worse than my case on BlazingHand.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:25 GMT
#3209
On November 19 2013 02:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 02:17 Koshi wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 19 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote:
If BH flips green and his dieing wish is that we lynch Grack. Will you do allow it rayn?

Then i will reconsider. But i can tell you BH is not going to flip green. There is no fucking way that's gonna happen.

I am with you but I put it on 70%/30%. I need to known what BH said to thrawn.


i asked him if he was really tracker because i didn't buy it. he said no he's not, and that he probably wasn't going to reveal this to the thread, but he only claimed tracker because he was going to be busy and didn't want to be lynched

do you really think that scum bh would just tell me that

thrawn what you did tell me in our mason QT fits exactly to scum!Blazinghand.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 18 2013 17:26 GMT
#3210
Koshi could you tell me who masoned you?
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