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On October 30 2013 10:07 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Storr's post seems to be just trying to randomly add suspicion on Balla. There's no justification behind it, only a weak suggestion that the post might be bad somehow. Almost like he's hoping for someone else to jump in and find a reason to get Balla lynched.
I hardly call a couple words being unsure of someone's intentions adding suspicion to someone. I too was confused as to why length of post matters, but this is a newbie game so not sure about post length protocol.
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I disagree with that cakeman... but i'm making assumptions based on what I know of Storrzerg.. he tends to just randomly put suspicion on people.
Storrzerg, what made you say that? What's your experience with forum mafia?
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I disagree that length of posts matter but posting actively and participating in the game does matter. That could be what he meant just phrased differently. That's exactly what we should be talking about at this point in order to form a plan for finding the scum in the game.
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onlywonderboy's the one who's defending Balla. I'm simply questioning Storr right now: his pressure, if it's just pressure, came without any sort of explanation, or justification.
At least, wouldn't something concrete (rather than a vague comment that can basically be ignored as personal musing) be better for forcing people to talk?
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Also in regards to knowing where people are from/times they'll be on I'm central time and currently will be on after class (college) depending on the day between 2-5 and well into the night because I'm a night owl!
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On October 30 2013 09:49 Balla24 wrote:
just curious you are storrzerg from eSports mafia correct?
Yes i am also
StorrZerg on tl
as well as many other places :D
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@jonnylaw, no I was directly speaking about length of posts... I strongly believe that long posts make it easy for mafia to hide in because they inherently keep the pace of the game down while everybody spends 20-30m writing out their posts. sure if the pace of the game can be kept up while people are writing lengthy posts (4-5 paragraphs, analyzing each player etc etc with bunch of quote blocks etc) then that's fine. not only that, but it's helpful for people who don't have that much time (like you last game) for the standard to be short concise posts.
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On October 30 2013 10:20 Balla24 wrote:
I disagree with that cakeman... but i'm making assumptions based on what I know of Storrzerg.. he tends to just randomly put suspicion on people.
Storrzerg, what made you say that? What's your experience with forum mafia?
Still "newer" i'd say
i've played a few, but i need a better understanding of the rules and how to scum hunt since things are different on forum from RL or on video chat
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@cakemanofdoom
You seem to be throwing this blame off of you and onto onlywonderboy. He actually seems to be responding about the post and not to the "accusation" that Storr is putting on Balla. So your play of throwing off the defence of Balla (which you did defend from Storrz comment) and throwing it on onlywonderboy is very scummy to me.
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@Storr, so what made you say what you did about my post? Was it the length thing which other people are voicing their opinions about as well or something else? Do you disagree with it? If so, why?
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Anyone else have any opinions on Storr or me? Keeping quiet is quite counterproductive to having an active town.
Anyways Vanesco: onlywonderboy was a comparison post. I'm not defending Balla, a fact that should be clearer when compared to actual defense; I did not say anywhere that I think Balla's right. I also didn't say that Storr is wrong in suspecting Balla. Only that Storr's method of pointing out suspicion doesn't look good to me. Not sure about you, but I don't think I'm defending.
Also, out of curiosity, why do you mention that onlywonderboy actually responds about Balla's post? If anything, shouldn't that mean that my post, which isn't about Balla's, isn't defending Balla? I'd like to understand your logic here.
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Hm. Things are slow and I'm not sure what to do about it. I was hoping that there'd randomly be tons of chatter and the game would randomly explode, but I guess it's always a tad naive to hope for something like that to happen ^^;
Although there's only a page so far... first off, anyone here?
Second, even though cakeman's comment on Storr is potentially somewhat accusatory, it's so mild it doesn't even register notice. So far, there doesn't really seem to be an obnoxious (read as: discussion generating) individual around, which is probably why the start is so slow. Rather than the comment on Storr though, the only thing that I really noticed atm is On October 30 2013 10:21 cakemanofdoom wrote:
At least, wouldn't something concrete (rather than a vague comment that can basically be ignored as personal musing) be better for forcing people to talk?
--> cake's first post was reaching a little, but this second one ends in a way that sounds like he's... hmm. Basically the fact it's a question looks like he's trying to garner approval rather than say anything with it. Also, his mention of Storr's post might as well just be personal musing given how little it mattered, and it certainly didn't generate discussion.
Any thoughts? :l (I'm gonna try to get into a bit of a habit this game of posting whatever I've written rather than continuously editing it based on the most recent post, so if I look 1-4 posts behind, just roll with it)
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I'll be out for a couple hours but I'll check the thread before I head to sleep. I don't want to clog up the thread with useless posts.
I like storr's abrasiveness early. It moves our discussion along. I want to hear the response to balla's question.
Looking at the TL profiles nyxnyxnyx is the only player clearly marked outside of North America. Make your presence known here town. Otherwise you're going to end up lynched and that's not a great start to the game.
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Van, why is it very scummy? re: cakeman and owb. I didn't really get much of an impression there one way or another, although I agree that owb looked like he was just answering storr's thought rather than defending balla.
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On October 30 2013 11:29 JonnyLaw wrote:
I'll be out for a couple hours but I'll check the thread before I head to sleep. I don't want to clog up the thread with useless posts.
I like storr's abrasiveness early. It moves our discussion along. I want to hear the response to balla's question.
Looking at the TL profiles nyxnyxnyx is the only player clearly marked outside of North America. Make your presence known here town. Otherwise you're going to end up lynched and that's not a great start to the game.
Exactly. There's a difference between posting useful short posts and just spam. I mean, I hope we can avoid long dead periods, but if there's some downtime it's not the end of the world. I like this discussion about Balla's post way more than the last two games that have just been rehashes about lynching lurkers.
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Hit post and saw the next two posts after mine. I agree that cakeman's looking scummy in that post. I'm not going to extrapolate until I hear more from him. I want to see his response first.
@cakeman why would that be better? It made the conversation start did it not?
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@cakemanofdoom
All I'm saying is that onlywonderboy didn't really respond to StorrZ comment other than saying he doesn't agree. You on the other hand just talk about Storr trying to pressure Balla with no evidence (which is in my opinion is a justified play on page 1 of day 1). It just seems to me like you are trying to redirect off of Balla.
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@Obzy
In my mind I play by thinking everybody is potential mafia at the start(except for me and you). Maybe defending was a wrong word to use, instead maybe redirecting would be better. If Balla and cakeman are mafia together, then it seems like cakeman is trying to redirect off of Balla by saying that there is no concrete evidence (like I have said many times before, there shouldnt be on page 1 of day 1). It just seems very scummy since the only way to get people to talk at the start of the day is to put a bit of pressure and he is trying to take it off Balla.
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@vanesco seems like really sloppy mafia play to try to redirect off your teammate so early in the game... Do you really believe there was pressure enough on me that would warrant that? All he said was idk abt this post...
cakeman being scum and trying to cast suspicion on storr for a low content accusatory post seems like a much more feasible scum play to me...
as far as storr, nah there's nothing there... all he was doing was randomly putting suspicion on someone to start some discussion, see how people react, see who calls him out etc. he's just trying to feel people out..
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Yes I agree with your second point as well. I just gave 1 example that could be possible. Thinking about it now I should have used your reasoning since I agree with it more. But then again this is a newbie game, so it also could be a bad mafia play. I'm just trying to look at it from all sides possible.
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