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When you were first questioned about your post involving stutters you could have answered it in 4 words. Instead you rambled for 4 paragraphs about nothing. In general scum are more likely to have these knee jerk overreactions than a townie who knows he is innocent. None of your later posts have made me feel any better about you. Not a fan of this quote either. Town are generally less concerned with whether or not they offend others with their posts. I should also say that it was not meant offensively (towards Stutters) as I am not sure now as to whether I offended him. Oats can you explain more about why you liked hzflank's rambling post also if you had to vote right now who would you vote for and why? | ||
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On November 01 2013 09:18 Grackaroni wrote: Scum are careful and more concerned about looking good. They pretty much never say, "Hey, I'm going to lynch this guy because other people are lynching him" I don't agree with this when talking about new scum players. It is pretty normal for a new scum player to jump on an easy bandwagon and use that as their reasoning. That being said new townies do the same thing and I am more leaning new townie on JJ. Grack what do you think about hzflank? ? | ||
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-Tehpoofter who do you think is scum? You have several useless posts and one saying you had no reads. We are over half way through the day you should have some suspicions at this point. | ||
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The evidence against hzflank is unquestionably circumstantial but that being said it is still better than anything else I have seen. His point against mkfuba is solid enough but he only began to actually scumhunt once there was pressure on him and Oats directly told him to. It isn't enough for me to erase my earlier suspicions. hzflank besides mkfuba who are you suspicious of? What do you think about Oats/grack/myself? tehpoofter/Bereft/mkfuba really need to give their opinions. Just give your opinion on anything. Pandain is also useless but when I played with him before (a year ago or so) he was useless in pretty much every game I played with him as well, so meh. | ||
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Grack have you played much with pandain before? In my experience at least it is common for him to not give a fuck and barely do everything every game he plays whether he is mafia or town. | ||
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So you would say Pandain is or is not playing like his scum meta? You posted earlier saying he is your top scum read. If you had to vote right now are you voting him? | ||
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I would really like to see fuba post again before the deadline. Right now I am ok lynching hz or fuba. | ||
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On November 02 2013 06:13 Grackaroni wrote: What do you think of Oats/Grack? Grack- lean town. You have done somethings that I would consider anti-town (spamming the thread, repeating the same argument over and over, appearing ready to vote for LJ because he was useless and not because you felt he was scum (not totally sure how serious this was) ) but that being said I agree with you that mafia are generally more concerned about image and not ruffling feathers. Especially your argument with LJ, while I think it was anti-town it is the sort of thing I expect to see more often from a townie. Oats- Not a fan of anything he has done. Claiming to be bad (or even just not that good) as an excuse is never good. He also has provided pretty much 0 scum hunting for the town. In general however, I don't agree with lynching active veterans day1 unless there is an incredibly strong case against them. We have the least information day1 it is better to wait on lynching people who can potentially be an asset for town until we have more information and can make more accurate decisions. I will add if hz is red I would probably go for Oats next. He was the first person to try and deflect attention away from him. | ||
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##Vote hzflank I will say though fuba has also been totally useless and his one post coming back to the game didn't make him look any better. I have to go now but I will try to be back 30 min before lynch to check what is going on (no promises tho). | ||
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Oats/Asinine/Bereft seem like the best targets for tomorrow. Oats why did you disappear for so long from the thread? Would you have left your vote on Pandain if you had been around the thread near lynch? It could be a coincidence but looking pretty shady that the 2 guys who voted pandain (bereft/oats) didn't really push for him at all then both went afk from the thread and didn't have to defend their votes or evaluate what was going on. | ||
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I am here now Pandain! | ||
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Asinine - obvious reasons | ||
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On November 03 2013 08:22 hzflank wrote: In 40 minutes we will know for sure whether Grack is scum. If Oats dies, lynch Grack. Why? | ||
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What are your reasons for voting Bereft LJ? I am on board with the idea that most of the mafia team are probably lurkers. Mafia has been incredibly demotivated the entire game. Reading mkfuba's basterd game he at least put some effort in as mafia, this game he didn't try whatsoever and just let himself die without putting up a fight. Oats also did absolutely nothing all game. It makes sense that they wouldn't be motivated to try if their teammates were afk/about to be replaced. | ||
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Over-explaining what is just a pressure vote. + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2013 01:32 Bereft wrote: given that activity is low, it generates discussion by putting someone in the hot seat, forcing them to defend themselves while at the same time forcing the rest of town to interact with said individual. in this game it's worth at least some consideration since not only are there more scum but the set up discourages bussing to an extent. I'm not advocating a blind lynch - it's not a 31% chance that we lynch scum but a 31% chance that we pressure scum day 1. ##Vote: Pandain Soft defending Oats a bit + Show Spoiler + On October 31 2013 11:37 Bereft wrote: why oatsmaster? do you like picking individuals who aren't around to defend themselves, mr. grackaroni? I initially had a pretty town read on grack considering he was the only one who seemed to care about the game fof the first 12 hours or so, but now I find it incongruous that he suddenly tunnels on oats for pushing easy lynch bait, when going back to reread the filters, I find like a 1 liner from oats on the subject, and a much harder push from laughing jack. while I would agree the "I make mistakes as town" defense is weak, this post in particular seemed a bit like he was grasping to me two waaay different contexts. in one oats is blatantly being told he sucks balls, which would raise anyone's hackes. Low activity and multiple excuses for low activity + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 03:16 Bereft wrote: hey guys sorry for the afk. got too caught up with halloween festivities and now hungover at work. fwiw (which i know is not much) i had no intention of actually leaving my vote on pandain - thought i'd have time to come back before the deadline . am aware of what a total cop out afk vote it looks like and i understand the suspicion. All this combined with the fact that bereft left a vote on Pandain and then went afk. 1 final random thing I noticed. In one of Oats final posts he refers to bereft as a she. + Show Spoiler + On November 03 2013 03:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Bereft hasnt posted much of anything so lurker but depending on what she posts, I could totally be up to lynch her. Lets see. I looked through their history's and they have never played in the same game before and I don't see anything in bereft's recent posts that indicates she's female. However, usually people who roll mafia together will add each other on skype and that would be an easy way to learn she is female. This could be nothing tho (Oats could have found out some other way etc) just wanted to add it to see what others thought. | ||
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Asinine can you post your thoughts on Bereft? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 02 2013 01:13 Stutters695 wrote: Well I was hoping Fuba/Hz would have posted by now since I want to see what they say, but I want to get this out there sooner rather than later so other people can give their input also. Fuba usually is a low post, high analysis player. That analysis is non-existent in his vote on Hz. If memory serves he usually has no problem saying he doesn't know until he is certain someone is scum. I'm at work, phone posting, so I can't check past games. This does remind me far too much of Basterd Mini where he struggled to push anyone (as scum) who wasn't actually scum because he struggles finding reasons. Consequently, he lurked a lot d1 until he had stuff to weigh in on during massive posts. The only reason I'm not pushing him 100% right now is if he is really busy he wouldn't have a lot of time and I can't remember any games off the top of my head on how he played in one where he was limited on time. Anyone experienced with him want to weigh in on that? He did still vote for HZ at first but he eventually switched and hammered fuba. If he was bussing fuba for town cred wouldn't he have just voted fuba after making this post instead of making himself look worse by voting HZ first? | ||
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Maybe JarJar is mafia with asinine and he just randomly decided he couldn't leave his vote on Pandain and it would be too suspicious to be the last vote on hz so he was forced to bus fuba. | ||
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Any reservations about Oats targeting asinine before he died? | ||
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Anyway, so assuming asinine is mafia who do you think his mafia buddy is? | ||
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Odin who are you going to vote for? | ||
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Grack is confirmed town with the vig shot. So for asinine to be mafia then either me or odin have to be mafia (unless mafia are suicidally voting for themselves). I am town so that leaves odin as the only possible mafia partner for asinine. | ||
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I have a hard time believing mafia after doing nothing this entire game came up with a plan where one mafia would vote asinine just in the hopes that town would become suspicious that everyone is voting him and switch at the end. Seems really optimistic. | ||
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1) day1 I read through 4 separate games on hz/fuba. This does not prove I am town but how often have you seen mafia actually put that much effort into scum hunting day1? Look at the effort the flipped mafia have put in. Oats/Fuba did absolutely nothing. 2) look at the post I made about Oats after the lynch during the night. On November 03 2013 02:14 Mig wrote: Oats/Asinine/Bereft seem like the best targets for tomorrow. Oats why did you disappear for so long from the thread? Would you have left your vote on Pandain if you had been around the thread near lynch? It could be a coincidence but looking pretty shady that the 2 guys who voted pandain (bereft/oats) didn't really push for him at all then both went afk from the thread and didn't have to defend their votes or evaluate what was going on. On November 03 2013 07:38 Mig wrote: Asinine you are definitely grasping at straws with your LJ analysis. Do you really think LJ is a better lynch than someone like Oats? What are your thoughts on Oats? Do you really think if I were mafia I would immediately be setting up to bus Oats in this format after fuba died? Especially when grack was the only person pressuring him? | ||
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Meh don't think the lynch is going to be stopped at this point. Going to hope I am over thinking things and Odin is his buddy. ##vote Bereft | ||
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I mean if we lynch asinine tonight and he flips town we are going to be discussing bereft/poofter/whatever all of tomorrow so what is the difference. | ||
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