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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On November 02 2013 08:47 Stutters695 wrote: ##Unvote ##vote: Mkfuba07 I really didn't want to do this because I like the points against Hz and Fuba will be easy to read as it goes on, but I'll give this a shot. Can you explain this this is such a sketchy post. | ||
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Asinine
Qatar66 Posts
On November 02 2013 09:25 Pandain wrote: Asinine you thought hz was scum. Why not push him, try to convince others, why were you only focusing on me. I don't know what you are talking about. I never focused on you. I was pushing hzflank. | ||
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Pandain
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Stutters695
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On November 02 2013 09:26 Pandain wrote: Can you explain this this is such a sketchy post. Or you could read my previous posts that explained my thought process and why I was saying I wanted to lynch between the two of them for the past forty eight hours while you were afk. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
His posts are consistent. And he's posting a lot compared to what he usually does as scum. | ||
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hzflank
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
 So...Mig, still think that I am scum? Anything else to share with us? | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
After reading through the game I don't want to lynch Oats at this time. I can understand where he is coming from throughout the thread. Same with Bereft, except that I don't understand why Bereft did not move his vote (and he obviously have less posts). It could just be because he was afk, though. I don't actually want to lynch Odin or Tehpoofter either. They did not need to vote on Fuba at the time that they did. And to be honest, considering that Fuba was afk this game he came very close to surviving. Now, you might say that was because I played badly in D1, but I am of the opinion that it was because there was scum activly trying to save mkfuba. That basically leaves all the people who voted for me as the people that I think are scum at the moment. I realize that it is unlikely to end up that simple, but they are the people who are currently want to lynch. I should probably post about then one by one... | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
I think they both have a slight town read, for now. It is entirely possible scum just gave up tuba and bussed him, so really Jack, me, and Grack are the only confirmed towns as I think it's really really unlikely for JarJar to just help bus his teammate. | ||
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Pandain
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On November 02 2013 09:06 hzflank wrote: You will put the guy who was almost lynched instead of the scum on the backburner, while you lynch the guy who dropped the hammer on the scum? Yeah, I read that and was like: Did he see the flip? I guess he backed off Stutters a little bit he still thinks "he should be looked into". Uh how about we look into people trying to save scum? Asinine, Mig, Laughing Jack, Bereft, Oatsmaster all had their votes on people that are now pretty much confirmed town while scum was pretty close to escaping a lynch. Hopefully we have a vig who can shoot into that group for us. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On November 02 2013 12:41 Pandain wrote: IDK. I think I'd add stutters as close to confirmed town as well. He changed his vote when it was 5-5. Why not just allow the lynch to got though?That would go the same for Tehpoofter, except even more for him really probably. I think they both have a slight town read, for now. It is entirely possible scum just gave up tuba and bussed him, so really Jack, me, and Grack are the only confirmed towns as I think it's really really unlikely for JarJar to just help bus his teammate. | ||
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JarJarDrinks
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
In hindsight his first few posts are bad. I thought that they were fine at the time, but after I made that lengthy post in response to them he really flew off the handle. I did not even think that he was scummy at the time, and considering that he is an experienced player the logical reason for him to react so strongly to me was to get things moving in the game. He then ended up tunnelling me throughout the day. Due to the accounts low post count it is easy to subconsciously think of him as an inexperienced player, but we do not know that. An experienced player should be more aware of when they are tunnelling. The thing that I want to stress: During D1, I was the only person that Asinine every called scum or was ever interested in lynching The only exception is this post: On November 02 2013 08:39 Asinine wrote: I don't lynch by post count. I lynch by scumminess. If that's the best argument you've got to defend hzflank, then I rest my case. I am also not tunneled. Had the lynch been between Odin and fuba, I may very well choose fuba to lynch. Fuba isn't exactly a shining beacon of towniness. However, hzflank is the most likely to flip scum. He also calls Fuba scum, but then considering how hard he pushed to save Fuba I don't think that is relevent. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On November 02 2013 12:49 JarJarDrinks wrote: ANd how is Jack on that list? Typo, he meant you. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Mig appears to actually be scumhunting, I just don't agree with the results of it or with his vote on me. Mig decided that I was scum quite quickly and long before he voted for me. His last post was hypocritical. On November 02 2013 06:54 Mig wrote: I read through hzflank's titanic and newbie XLIV mafia games. This game seems so much more like his mafia play from XLIV. In Titanic all his posting was confident and he had no qualms pushing his reads and making cases. In XLIV he was much more wishy-washy. This game he has been incredibly wishy-washy. He makes 1 post voting for Fuba then doesn't push him at all. Telling JJ to vote for tehpoofter instead of fuba who has lurked almost the exact same amount also sits wrong with me. Why wouldn't you recommend that fuba be voted for if you actually lean scum on him and he has virtually the same amount of posts? You don't seem to actually care that we vote for scum. This combined with my earlier read on him is enough for my vote. ##Vote hzflank I will say though fuba has also been totally useless and his one post coming back to the game didn't make him look any better. I have to go now but I will try to be back 30 min before lynch to check what is going on (no promises tho). One of the main reasons that Mig votes for me is because I am wishy washy, which is true and I wont claim that I ever pushed a lynch on mkfuba (I got lucky). Mig ends that post with a disclaimer though, which is as wishy-washy as it gets. You only make a disclaimer like that if you are hoping to be called out on it, right? Well... The other thing was how he paid special attention to a lynchbait post that I made. Why is he calling me out for a lynchbait post in the same post that he is posting obvious bait? Did he not know that he was posting bait? In which case that disclaimer makes him look like scum. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
If it goes on for longer then 5 days and you're still alive, town should reconsider you with new evidence of course. Town or should ignore: LaughingJack LaughingJack had a fine day one. Based on the limited information day one provides, and with him being absent during the ending lynch, I give him a town read. His reads/analysis/posts were fine. Bereft I like Bereft for now. I do not at all in like how he was AFK during the last moments of the lynch, but he did advocate and start the RNG lynch. I think starting a true RNG lynch is so dangerous for scum, because you have to keep advocating it even if you hit scum. And what if it takes off? Now it's possible they just push a scum RNG less severely then a town RNG, but it puts things out of their hands. Bereft for now shouldn't be the lynch for tomorrow and instead town should analyze him more. Least likely out of all of these to be town. Stutters I can't but help Stutters being town. Like he had a pretty good scum/town meta of barely posting. But like hz said, him posting when he doesn't have to really I think is an indicator of his alignment this game. I guess him also pushing it over the breaking point is another townie point, though I don't rule it out of the question scum just outright bussed him. Should not be lynched tomorrow Odin Fourth vote on scum fuba. Town On November 02 2013 07:25 OdinOfPergo wrote: I didn't like your early post. I'm still not sure how I feel about them now. But at least they are there. Fuba doesn't really put a lot of effort into it. He probably wasn't too worried because I'm pretty sure half the people in this thread expected me to get modkilled. It would of been harder to swing a vote off pandain and or you if myself and hermaene are modkilled. Definitive, leaves little leaving out of it Mig His early posts, although those were really his only posts, were good. Basically he seems reasonable, but we haven't seen his true intentions yet in actions because he was gone day one. Should ignore for now unless something notable happens day two. Can't read: Oats: He talked about whether he is bad or not for a whole bunch of the thread. I can't read him. | ||
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Pandain
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hzflank
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