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On October 30 2013 03:15 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 02:59 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 02:55 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 02:43 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 02:42 OOHCHILD wrote:
Wait, Marvel, doesn't Seuss have to claim there? Or else he has to never use his power and claim vanilla?
Yeah this is a point. Seuss - why did you leave using your power until after Wave did? When were you planning on using it otherwise? Because my power only works at the end of the day, and by its nature whatever choice I make today determines the pattern for the rest of the game. Once WaveofShadow claimed his power I thought it was odd for there to be multiple voting powers so I thought to counter-claim. I'd forgotten about Pandain, and then he brought up his own power. Once I saw that and Wave became martyr #2 I had the idea for the vote test. I also forgot: ##Vote [UoN]Sentinel How did you forget about Pandain as he kinda claimed earlier already? I wrote that off as a non-serious exchange and didn't think any more of it. I didn't think it made any sense for Pandain to randomly assert he had a power like that. Fair enough. I actually thought Pandain was pressuring Koshi as he said his power was permanent and i find it hard to believe that's true. I dont believe this from Seuss. Pandain said very clearly 4eva... How is that joking around when you have the same power... And if he noticed it, the symmetricalness would make instant sense when WoS said he could add. Something is wrong with Seuss. The only excuse I accept is "I didnt read it" and it being Pandain claiming.
Did you think Pandain's power was real when he threathened you with it?
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On October 30 2013 03:21 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i correctly read what Seuss is saying it makes sense.
Seuss do you think one of Wave and Pandain is scum now? Probably. It would be weird to give all the vote powers to town. That would slant things against the mafia pretty hard.
Then again, why are you voting for Sentinel?
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On October 30 2013 03:26 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
StrongandBig where the hell are you and why did you say exactly what i did about Pandain after you had read my comment about him and his play this game???
I'm in class you assdouche. Go take a chill pull. Preferably a suppository. I assume you're referring to this post: Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 23:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi:
This is what Pandain's town play looks like:
Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization of his reads, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, Q/A, summarization, maybe some sort of a case, repeat.
This is what Pandain's scum play looks like:
stuff, some weak reads, stuff, stuff, a case on someone, stuff, some defences against thread sentiment (usually on townies), soft buss, stuff, stuff, stuff, defence.. repeat from after the "a case on someone".
At some point that falls apart because he busses so much. When Pandain busses he does not really intend to lynch his scumbuddies. He does also defend a lot of people just for the sake of defending. You catch him when he has bussed someone and when they are up for a lynch he suddenly doesn't want to lynch them anymore (see Thug life and Palmar). This actually isn't the same as what I said, what I'm talking about is the tone of the cases and summaries in his longer posts whereas i read your post as being about whether or not hes asking questions and whether hes mixing soft busses with "defenses against thread sentiment." I was pretty specific and so were you. I agree they are similar though. Even if they were exactly the same, I would have posted my thing anyway because I want people to know what my thought process and analysis were. When I was making up my mind about pandain I did it without thinking about what you or other people said about him, I was looking at the evidence and making my own read. Are you claiming that you think I just took your conclusion and then spent twenty minutes making it more specific, reading old games and filters and getting the evidence for it that you didn't, because that's easier than making up some shit? Or is it maybe more likely that I happened to come to a similar analysis as you?
No i don't. I would have expected you to say something about my post or me when you made a post quite similar.
Is there a reason you didn't?
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On October 30 2013 03:31 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 03:21 Seuss wrote:On October 30 2013 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i correctly read what Seuss is saying it makes sense.
Seuss do you think one of Wave and Pandain is scum now? Probably. It would be weird to give all the vote powers to town. That would slant things against the mafia pretty hard. Then again, why are you voting for Sentinel? Well I happen to have put a whole lot of effort into making a case against him. After Wave, myself, and Pandain all explicitly revealed it became evident that Wave fake-claiming wasn't likely, and so long as we had an alternative target we could test everyone's powers without needed to lynch voting power that may become critical as the game goes on. There was also a mess of confusion once Wave started martyring himself. If my idea also got everything on track so town wasn't running around like crazy, all the better. I'll admit there's a chance we lose a useful power with Sentinel as well, but at the moment I think he looks scummier than Wave.
I think your case on Sentinel is fine and correct. But tbh i don't know if what you say makes him scum. Someone not trying to do much on D1 is not necessarily scummy, especially considering we are talking about Sentinel here, who is usually quite useless even as town.
However, WaveofShadow is not usually useless as town on D1. In addition to that, WoS has done things, but the things he has done are nowhere near what i would expect from town!WoS and he is not helping the town in any way or trying to find mafia.
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On October 30 2013 03:33 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 03:28 marvellosity wrote:
Wave and Seuss's unwillingness to kill each other is totally baffling to me. He's afraid I won't ever carry him in League of Legends again. More seriously, in terms of semi-independent arguments I can make against him versus Sentinel I think I've got a better case against Sentinel, but no one's really responded to it yet.
This is the post i was supposed to quote in my last reply.
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On October 30 2013 03:42 marvellosity wrote:
who cares, answer me, i need to go
me? what do i need to answer?
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On October 30 2013 03:36 marvellosity wrote:Reposting: Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
As far as Seuss, I REALLY don't like his play now. When i originally faked my role use on him i figured he'd come back with strong analysis and play like he did in his newbie and would prove himself a good choice for my power, but he has done basically the opposite: sheeping town sentiment, no reads, and no strong posts one way or another.
Can anyone tell me why, when Wave apparently didn't have a clue who to lynch, this was not enough to vote on?
Because scum.
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On October 30 2013 03:45 Promethelax wrote:
but if scum why not lynch other dude and not himself? Is Suess scum too?
He has been having a town read on Seuss earlier. I do not think Seuss' posting has gotten any worse/better during the game, it has remained the same. It was at that point nowhere near clear if WoS was getting lynched or not, he could have proven himself some way. Changing his read based on what he said so drastically that he votes for Seuss would probably look even worse on him.
What does this tell about Seuss, idk if anything. I do not think they are scum together. If they are there was absolutely no reason for Seuss to claim after WoS did unless some serious #bigmafiaplay.
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marv based on what i just said, do you think Seuss' play has gotten better/worse from early game like WoS seems to be implying?
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Sentinel is there any apparent reason you have not commented on anything regarding WoS?
What do you think of WoS?
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...but if you have new stuff feel free to bring it up.
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On October 30 2013 04:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 04:32 marvellosity wrote:
Sentinel if you agree on wave, why would you put your vote on someone not getting lynched? It's plurality and I'm here till the 5:00 deadline. If someone who isn't wave/ooh takes the lead, I'll switch onto wave for solidarity. But since ooh is my number one read I will keep my vote on him. As it stands at the current moment, my vote wouldn't matter whether it's on one or the other.
If you believe OOHCHILD is a better lynch why are you not trying to convince anyone to switch into him?
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I'm in. At least Wave seems to be giving us something later on.
##Unvote
##Vote: Clarity_nl
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BLAZINGHAND WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU MARV!
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Please be dick scum Clarity....
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On October 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Um, rayn, what does your ##delegate power do exactly?...
That's what i trying to tell you by saying "consider my twerk null".. :E
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On October 30 2013 06:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 06:11 marvellosity wrote:
Um, rayn, what does your ##delegate power do exactly?... That's what i trying to tell you by saying "consider my twerk null".. :E So you have a sabotaging power and you used it on me Neat.
I have two powers. One makes every number in your role go up by one. The other one does the opposite. That's what i was trying to do but i fucking messed up because the name of the power is the same barring first letter. :/
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On October 30 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
What's the name of the other power?
##Relegate
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On October 30 2013 06:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
What's the name of the other power? ##Relegate I don't think I really believe you. This is problematic.
I can prove it the next day.
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On October 30 2013 06:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2013 06:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 06:21 marvellosity wrote:On October 30 2013 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 30 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote:
What's the name of the other power? ##Relegate I don't think I really believe you. This is problematic. I can prove it the next day. Here's why I don't believe you. Even if you meant to type "Relegate", why were you toying with my powers 45 minutes into the game?
Because you said you need people to twerk you in order for you to use powers.
I assumed from your posts that the more people who twerk you, the better power you got. I was trying to make that easier.
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