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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 15:02 GMT
#668
I'm not going to call Pandain bad as a player, but I think what he's done is well within his capabilities as town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 15:23 GMT
#674
Prome, Oats is terrible at reading me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:08 GMT
#683
I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x

Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:14 GMT
#687
On October 29 2013 01:10 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x

Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :<


You said that a day ago, and I really wanted to get this stuff out of the way so we can just play the game. (not bitter or anything)

It was like 16 hours ago, and we're not even halfway through Day 1 yet. I also said I had reasons for wanting to delay it, based on my developing reads. The fact you ignored this makes me pretty sad, when I think you've been generally attentive to other stuff so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:18 GMT
#688
On October 29 2013 01:09 HotCottonCandy wrote:
and I don't understand why everyone is in deep distress over clarity_nl's first post, there was no "just desserts" about it, and he gave 2 pretty strong reads, one of which clashes with thread sentiment. I guess you take it as him trying to disrupt the town circle, but it was a weak attempt if that. He can join my null circle.

I've seen countless mafia who introduce themselves to the thread with a terrible case. I think even Clarity himself has done it.

I mainly take umbrage because I think Clarity knows better, and Oats actually looks *better* than he usually does in game. I'm finding it hard to believe that Clarity believes in this case at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#690
On October 29 2013 01:21 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:10 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x

Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :<


You said that a day ago, and I really wanted to get this stuff out of the way so we can just play the game. (not bitter or anything)

It was like 16 hours ago, and we're not even halfway through Day 1 yet. I also said I had reasons for wanting to delay it, based on my developing reads. The fact you ignored this makes me pretty sad, when I think you've been generally attentive to other stuff so far.


That's fine, I let a minor annoyance affect my play and it will cost me. Moving on and I assume we will be pals again later.

I guess what I'm getting at here with the clarity thing is: Look at how StrongandBig re-entered the thread and compare it to how clarity_nl entered the thread, it is essentially almost identical but people are praising strongandbig and shunning clarity. Seems like a case of double standards here that I would like to pursue.

It's simple from my perspective - I don't think Clarity should be believing what he wrote as town, whereas I have no such issue with s&b.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:30 GMT
#693
On October 29 2013 01:27 HotCottonCandy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:22 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:21 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:10 HotCottonCandy wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
I really just wanna see what this power of his is :x

Why you twerk when I say not to twerk yet :<


You said that a day ago, and I really wanted to get this stuff out of the way so we can just play the game. (not bitter or anything)

It was like 16 hours ago, and we're not even halfway through Day 1 yet. I also said I had reasons for wanting to delay it, based on my developing reads. The fact you ignored this makes me pretty sad, when I think you've been generally attentive to other stuff so far.


That's fine, I let a minor annoyance affect my play and it will cost me. Moving on and I assume we will be pals again later.

I guess what I'm getting at here with the clarity thing is: Look at how StrongandBig re-entered the thread and compare it to how clarity_nl entered the thread, it is essentially almost identical but people are praising strongandbig and shunning clarity. Seems like a case of double standards here that I would like to pursue.

It's simple from my perspective - I don't think Clarity should be believing what he wrote as town, whereas I have no such issue with s&b.


So it is based on their metas then correct? I would like to hear from other people why snb = town clarity = bad all the same.

Any questions for me before I go get lunch?

It's to do with the fact that Clarity literally just got out of a game with townOats, where most of the things he pointed out (such as "this marv townread is baseless") he did in that game too. Oats actually looks quite a bit better than he did in that game (World Heavyweight Championship mafia if you want to look) so this case feels like a massive stretch. I actually have zero idea how he can come into this game making that case having played in the game I just mentioned.

I don't know if s&b is town, I just know he hasn't done something egregious.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:34 GMT
#694
I've talked myself into this vote. I can't reconcile that play right now with town.

##Vote: Clarity_nl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:47 GMT
#701
On October 29 2013 01:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Find out Koshi. Come on. About 25+ pages of posts, and you dont have a single scumread?

marvellosity approves of this message.

Oats, tell me how you feel about killing Clarity, please.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:51 GMT
#705
On October 29 2013 01:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel really good about killing Clarity.

This is the one game where town shouldnt be making cases on me.

I was kinda fishing for something like this, good man :p I have this little theory in my head, that Clarity made a case on you because we had this conversation in Heavyweight about how only townies attack Oats, and mafia never do.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 16:55 GMT
#708
That's not a conspiracy theory. It's a little thing which would be nice if it were true, but has little impact on the main point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#710
On October 29 2013 01:48 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, I am going to go with marv, rayn, seuss and Oats town.
But your townread just got downgraded a bit because you are correct on the amount of pages in this game.

Haha, this is funny.
On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.

Don't think it says anything at all for Koshi's alignment, but I found it and it tickled me, so I thought I'd share.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:18 GMT
#712
My vote isn't bad in the slightest, and your defence + abandoning the thread is terrible.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:26 GMT
#715
On October 29 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like look at it this way, I've entered a thread badly as scum once and I didnt play mafia for the next 4-5 months or whatever cause I was having personal issues. I don't actually do that shit.

marv can you explain your townread on oats while I'm gone to help me understand? Thanks.
Gotta run

"I wouldn't do scummy shit" isn't really any sort of defence, Clarity, and I think you know that.

Oats is actually interacting with the thread a decent amount, and actually explaining his reads. His case on Pandain is good and reflects effort. The thing is, though, it's not even about my townread on Oats.

It's about how you are possibly reading him as mafia after World Heavyweight Championships. It just doesn't make sense. You should know that most of the shit you wrote in your case he did in that game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:33 GMT
#717
On October 29 2013 02:29 Koshi wrote:
Sadly Oats doesnt roll scum so I cant be sure this meta is still applicable but it is known that Oats is agressive and in your face when town, while he is evasive and shifty as scum. Look at how Seuss describes Oats in his analysis.

That and the fact that Oats isn't doing anything really scummy. Or I am not seeing it.

What are you concluding here? You're so wishy washy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:44 GMT
#719
On October 29 2013 02:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 01:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 29 2013 01:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
I feel really good about killing Clarity.

This is the one game where town shouldnt be making cases on me.

I was kinda fishing for something like this, good man :p I have this little theory in my head, that Clarity made a case on you because we had this conversation in Heavyweight about how only townies attack Oats, and mafia never do.

Funny thing about that is I tend to suspect Oats quite a bit in games we've played together and have been town for each and every one of those I believe. Is this a theory that has credence lent to it?

Not really, the post I quoted for shits and giggles from Koshi up there is evidence enough for it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:45 GMT
#720
for/against
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#722
Well, I was/am finding Koshi somewhat scummy, so I thought I'd browse his most recent scumgame. And voila ^_^

For your Prome question, I'm kinda inclined to think he was just being bad. Like meh, seems a dumb thing to push if you're mafia, because it's so easy to pick holes in (witness what happened)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 17:57 GMT
#724
On October 29 2013 02:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:47 marvellosity wrote:
Well, I was/am finding Koshi somewhat scummy, so I thought I'd browse his most recent scumgame. And voila ^_^

For your Prome question, I'm kinda inclined to think he was just being bad. Like meh, seems a dumb thing to push if you're mafia, because it's so easy to pick holes in (witness what happened)

But he didn't push it, which was the problem I originally had. He gave early scumreads and then didn't bother pursuing (aside from questioning Rayn regarding early powerup enabling, and he thinks Koshi is scum for similar).

So what's the point? This is kinda nitpicky and I don't get where you're going with it. So he says it, it's dumb, you prove him wrong. I'm struggling to make that lean one way or another.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
October 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#726
By 'push' I just meant 'bring up', really. Bad words I guess.

You're going to have to give me very specific reasons why Clarity is not a useful target, because I cannot see how he pulls this as town, at all. You going "um, ah, need to hear more" is spectacularly unhelpful.

Koshi is suspicious because he's struggling to get scumreads, when normally he's mad enough to think anyone is scummy. Unlike Prome, I don't see his kinda big attack on Prome into "meh, probs not going to vote" as any way townie, looks more like he wanted to make something out of nothing, but couldn't. Oats asks him for scumreads and he gives 3 or 4 townreads.

I'm interested in what rayn has to say about Koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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