EPTAwwww. I would have liked to play with a smurf VA. Because we indeed meta him too much. Meh.
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Awwww. I would have liked to play with a smurf VA. Because we indeed meta him too much. Meh. | ||
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But going with HotCottonCandy is town. He gave strong townreads in marv/prom/Oats. Null on me/rayn and only once suggested that one of us might be scum, and was interested in my reads on WoS/Seuss which he himself didn't bother looking into yet. He is also not trying to stear the thread into chaos or disunity. Also this puts Sentinel on the scummy side of things. | ||
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Because I want updates. | ||
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Marv, is your ability a night action or a cool ingame action? | ||
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On October 29 2013 18:39 marvellosity wrote: Hmm, did he say that and I missed it? It makes it a little less suspicious. My powers are not in-thread. No he didn't say that but if he isn't going to give his very exciting and very townread no powerup because he might fear he is scum anyway, I am not having big hopes for the rest of us. On October 29 2013 18:40 marvellosity wrote: Koshi, do you think rayn is pushing stuff as much as usual? He doesn't seem very gung-ho to me, and that worries me a bit. But you don't seem to be worried about him at all. I was a bit worried in the start but unless rayn is obvious scum to me I think I am going to ignore him till a point in the game I am forced to see him as scum. There is no reason for me to put unneeded pressure on him because I believe I can read him without having to interact with him. So our conversations should be about finding scum together more than finding out each other alignement. It is also a fact that I am the one that has the harder time reading rayn compared to rayn reading me. Golden Sun I was saying he was scum right before he got shot that night (N4), and he was shot for being 100% right on his reads... I think I can read rayn based around the point he decides I am town If you look at Noir I am pretty sure I started yelling rayn was 100% scum because he couldn't see I was town after my N1, which I played town meta Koshi. He could have still said I was scum but should have said I faked my meta, not the weak ass reasons he gave there. In this game he just gave me a leaning town read after my list of reads, which is a good moment for rayn to say that about me. But i'll add this for now: I was not the biggest fan of rayn his first pages, as he was pretty easygoing counting down with me, while I was asking questions at Sentinel he was just yoloing with me. Him giving a good answer to somebody asking about that is pretty null. I was surprised that he kept his cool interrogating Pandain because I would expect a bit more fire but he really kept his cool, even saying that Pandain was not readable for anybody atm because he was still null on Pandain and therefore shutting down some people who were pushing Pandain in the scummy corner for Pandains case on rayn. rayn is in no danger of getting lynched today and his play was on a level I can/want to trust him with his reads. But like I said in my list, I am willing to sheep rayn on Pandain and when rayn specifically asks me to sheep him. Otherwise I am more inclined to sheep marv. | ||
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##Twerk Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers. Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate. Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD. I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that. | ||
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put in a lot of early game effort and started things off when there was nothing going on - Was very active giving reads early in Hogwarts and flipped scum. bowed to thread pressure really quickly on the OMGus thing - I don't even understand why this is scummy/town buddying accusation into buddying - oki I agree scummy refusing to power his town read - scummy no one defended his lynch - Who is going to defend his lynch more than 30 hours before the deadline? And first lynches don't go through. Scum isn't dumb... Null. was attacked by scummy people - eeuhm? You just said rayn is confirmed town to you and he pushed the Pandain wagon at first. three people scummier than him - That's your opinion and I don't see how that makes Padain town unless those 3 people are like 75% scum to you which I doubt they are. ___ You are making Pandain look scummy tbh. | ||
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On October 29 2013 21:07 Promethelax wrote: so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING! No, I think Pandain is pretty scummy. I'll bounce ideas around with rayn later on. He claims to be able to read Pandain perfectly and I am sure he is willing to provide a lenghty case on why we should lynch Pandain if he beleives Pandain to be scum. If rayn doesn't think Pandain is worth lynching it isn't going to happen anyway. | ||
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On October 29 2013 21:23 Promethelax wrote: pretty scummy sounds a lot like 'scummy but not the scummiest' if you want to lynch Pandain what are you doing on marv's clarity wagon? Clarity is an elitist and marv is marv. 2 good reasons to lynch Clarity this game. I think Pandain has a good chance to flip red from where I am standing, but I am letting rayn do the case. rayn claims that he is a Pandain specialist. I am waiting on rayn and I suggest you keep your questions concerning Pandain being scum for him. I think rayn will be around soonish. | ||
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On October 29 2013 23:11 Clarity_nl wrote: ##Twerk Think I'll stick around for 30-60 min so will do what I can. Clarity can you do ##Update Koshi I don't know why but nobody wants to do it and I am really town. | ||
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This is a quote from rayn in our hydra QT from Hogwarts. Which I used this game to watch Pandain. Also Pandain, you have gone into your scum!mode of making zero sense pushing bad lynches and having bad thoughts that make no sense. Plz if you are town step up your game and do not overthink stuff. I have been reading Pandain filter and his entire first page of his filter is pushing rayn early for bad reasons. This is exactly describing rayns scum Pandain meta as pushing a bad lynch. I think everybody agrees that it was a horrible push on rayn? Page 2 is not much better, starts off with toying around with OOHCHILD and backing off on his read on rayn: On October 28 2013 14:14 Pandain wrote: Woops I went to do homework, completely forgot I intended to be here. Honestly I was a bit upset that you guys are overcharacterizing my push when it was my best read at an early time and I was simply sharing it which was more then you guys were doing with circlejerk power-upping. I like Rayn's later play and found justifications for his play which I won't talk about, but I may have misread him early on. Still, ignoring that I think I would have a good read for this time. But then it is your turn to interrogate Pandain and Pandain is forced to talk a lot with you but happily does that and puts down gems like this: On October 28 2013 14:17 Pandain wrote: I mean I thought it was a real power and it sounded deadly against Koshi. What was I supposed to do? The first thing I said and it was modconfirmed fast that it was not a "real power" because rayn putted down a colon and it wouldn't have counted. Page 2 of his filter is dominated having a conversation with rayn/Prome. Nothing big there or am I missing something there? I think your (rayn) townread on Pandain must have been formed there? Why? The redeeming post forthe thread should be the big post that looks like it contains Pandains scumhunting/reads. + Show Spoiler + On October 29 2013 05:10 Pandain wrote: Marv is striking me as very town, which is very exciting for me. Usually I would think it would be hard to read Marv since he's such a good player, but even if he's scum he's still making really good points which, as long as we continue to judge them, will work in town favor. + Show Spoiler + He has also already posted 6 pages worth of shit, and they're all good. Indicative of town He really thought hard about Prom and I love what he said about Prom being way too cocky, I actually had a null read on him but now I think I have a moderate town read on him, probably not as "sure" in it as Marv. + Show Spoiler + he also wasn't a dick to me Originally I disagreed with Seuss being scummy but now I agree, with some addendums. Here is Marv's post: However I disagree with this slight suspicion of Seuss. Now if Seuss had written out his post during the course of 5 hours and thought very clearly and wanted to be 100% consistant, it would be suspicious (though still not scummy). His bolded statement mirrored my thoughts and is a defendable statement even if it isn't 100% justifiable since yes some people need others for their powers. The underlined is clearly just poor reading and doesn't indicate scum. The red statement is interesting however and important to think about. There are better reasons to be suspicious of Seuss Very poor post, list format instead of comprehensive. Also what is the middle paragraph which is a basic "I don't know." Also his other posts are really wishy-washy and constantly changing. I do think he's worth looking out for though shouldn't be a lynch target today. I do agree Clarity is suspicious, made a poor post which only focused on one person. It is so incredibly assumption based and wouldn't be what I expect Clarity to be suspicious of. He says Oats is suspicious because he didn't add to what someone else said. I don't know why but this post bothers me Then Marv calls him out and he immediately back tracks I also think Koshi is suspicious. Where is carefree Koshi? He's so defensive. He also isn't attempting to buddy Rayn which I have seen in all my past games which I'm pretty sure they've both been in them all. Now imo there are MANY things wrong with this post: 1) Pandain calls Marv town and Pandain is excited about that. But Pandain doesn't do something as simple as power marv up a couple hours later. 2) The biggest chunk of the post seem to be about Seuss. But look at what Pandain actually says, he is not giving any reason Seuss is scum except that marv is on the money (that's handy, instant 1-up on his new exciting townread) and makes a big deal about Seuss adding a paragraph on SnB that is without content. I think he is also saying that Seuss his reads on Oats and Prome are just listing what they do and that it is not real analysis but I disagree there. The things Seuss says about both Prom and Oats is him being transparant on how he sees both and why. Pandain then goes on saying Seuss makes a ton more wishy washy posts and that he is a good lynch... 3) Pandain agrees Clarity is a good lynch. The posts he quotes is actually not a bad post from Clarity, why would it be wrong for town Clarity to ask feedback on his case and interaction about it? I don't get that. 4) Koshi is suspicious. yabbayabba meta reasons yabbeyabbayabbe ... I was town in his eyes a couple hours before that. Dont know where that went... On October 29 2013 05:15 Pandain wrote: I'll be blunt Rayn the reason why I took my suspicion off of you was because you could be a mason role and therefore it would make sense to PM Marv. However if it's anything else there's no real justification for it as it reveals your role, unless, I forgot, the purpose of the role itself is to reveal it! You also upped your game and are being town. On October 29 2013 05:54 Pandain wrote: But I didn't realize your probably a mason role. I thought you were using a power to have another effect on someone which wouldn't be justifiable literally unless its a mason role. This looks like a kiss and make up attempt to be honest. I cut the biggest portion of that first post because it was some more asskissing why rayn is town. But wtf is it about the mason thing? Maybe it is correct and that is why you (rayn) don't see him as scum? I don't find that a good reason though. Page 3 of Pandain is nothing. There is nothing. There is litteraly nothing. Nothing. So that's why I have a scumread on Pandain. | ||
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On October 29 2013 23:53 OOHCHILD wrote: I have not just been asking questions. I have also been giving a lot of opinions and reasons behind those opinions. Read my recent filter. Until then you are on ignore. Do you think I am still scum? And bussing Pandain? | ||
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