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On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point.
You know something I don't, dear?
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On October 29 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
What is everyone's reads on Pandain actually? There hasnt really been much discussion surrounding him.
One thing though, it annoys me tremendously that he doesnt want to talk to me about my scumread on him at all.
What is your read on Pandain Oats, make the discussion yourself.
Really Prome? Go and read the thread.
Man I love it when people dont read the thread when referring to me. PAYBACK BITCHES.
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On October 29 2013 20:22 Koshi wrote:
I am working and have been typing the above up in the last 3 hours.... Lots of shizzle happened in between.
##Twerk
Still in consideration if I will do the thing for Prom. Probably will do all the powers.
Not amused by Sentinel thingie not going through. I do not understand the secrecy and the "breadcrumbing". rayn said that it was already strange that Sentinel was so excited about his power when we were counting down, then he was already a lot less excited and unwilling to use it when we reached 0 and went AWOL after we reached 0. I wanted to give him a pass because the power and now it seems like the multiple posts he made about it were just hidden messages that it did nothing??? Why not tell the thread straight? Probably because scum and didn't know how else to participate.
Sentinel is on the VERY scummy side of things now and I am suggesting him as a policy lynch over OOHCHILD.
I'll sheep marv on Clarity first. Where the fuck is he? I expect high quality from Town Clarity because in both voice and forum mafia he always provided that.
I explained it multiple times. I didn't want it to dud after I revealed it if it turned out we did the countdown wrong or something and have everyone second guessing their involvement.
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On October 29 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point. You know something I don't, dear?
Just how to read Rayn. So yes.
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Yeah so Prome, what makes Pandain even remotely townie for you? Is it the case on Rayn? Or something more?
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"Why are you doing this pandain" isn't a read though oats.
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On October 29 2013 20:41 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point. You know something I don't, dear? Just how to read Rayn. So yes.
I see very little reason for you to be that confident in reading rayn given he's played a butt-ton of games since you were last here.
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Its there being scummier people. And effort. And the fact that when I sit down and try to make the case logically I can't make it work like it should if he is scum.
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On October 29 2013 20:42 Promethelax wrote:
"Why are you doing this pandain" isn't a read though oats.
"Pandain is scum" is though. Huh. Do you really not know that my vote until very recently was on Pandain?
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On October 29 2013 20:42 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:41 Promethelax wrote:On October 29 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote:On October 29 2013 20:37 Promethelax wrote:
Let me clarify for posterity/people who don't think the same way I do: OOH is present, he is keeping up with the thread and has not given a read. All he does is decide not to talk to people who don't like his play. So far he has shut down discussion with both myself and Rayn (two of the stronger players in the game and both town) there is only so far one can go clamping his hands over his ears and screaming NYNERNYNERNYNER every time someone has an issue with his play. ANd OOH has already gone past that point. You know something I don't, dear? Just how to read Rayn. So yes. I see very little reason for you to be that confident in reading rayn given he's played a butt-ton of games since you were last here.
Discussion with observers during the Champions game gave me a bit of insight.
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On October 29 2013 20:43 Promethelax wrote:
Its there being scummier people. And effort. And the fact that when I sit down and try to make the case logically I can't make it work like it should if he is scum.
OOHCHILD is 3p almost for sure I feel. I dont think hes scum.
Uhh. What do you mean by the second part, can you elaborate?
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On October 29 2013 20:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2013 20:43 Promethelax wrote:
Its there being scummier people. And effort. And the fact that when I sit down and try to make the case logically I can't make it work like it should if he is scum. OOHCHILD is 3p almost for sure I feel. I dont think hes scum. Uhh. What do you mean by the second part, can you elaborate?
Basically when I put all the facts on the table they don't prove he is scum. Like usually with scum when I put the facts in front of me they still look scum. But with Panda I'm not all that confidant when I lay it all out, so there are people I'd like to lynch first: if I had to pick four people to lynch he'd be my fourth, no doubt. But he isn't my top scum read.
The facts being:
put in a lot of early game effort and started things off when there was nothing going on - townie or trying to appear it
bowed to thread pressure really quickly on the OMGus thing - feels scummy but isn't conclusive at all
buddying accusation into buddying - scummy
refusing to power his town read - scummy
no one defended his lynch - townie
was attacked by scummy people - townie
three people scummier than him - townie
the flow of his lynch and the effort in early game make him a bad target for me.
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? Pandain hasn't really been on the cards for sometime now, so I don't really understand what you're talking about with "the flow of his lynch"
Especially as two of your biggest townreads were the people voting him.
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early game, when he was the leading lynch candidate, there was no concrete opposition to the lynch. Though that was before there was a real lynch push/end of day. I'm conflicted okay?! God mom you just don't get me at all!!!
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That's because you're not really making sense.
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OH WAIT I'M DUMB!
It was OOH who was getting votes from people who seemed scummy. Not Panda.
Please feel free to disregard that bit.
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I hate (love) to say I told you so.
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eeuhm, wth Prome...
put in a lot of early game effort and started things off when there was nothing going on - Was very active giving reads early in Hogwarts and flipped scum.
bowed to thread pressure really quickly on the OMGus thing - I don't even understand why this is scummy/town
buddying accusation into buddying - oki I agree scummy
refusing to power his town read - scummy
no one defended his lynch - Who is going to defend his lynch more than 30 hours before the deadline? And first lynches don't go through. Scum isn't dumb... Null.
was attacked by scummy people - eeuhm? You just said rayn is confirmed town to you and he pushed the Pandain wagon at first.
three people scummier than him - That's your opinion and I don't see how that makes Padain town unless those 3 people are like 75% scum to you which I doubt they are.
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You are making Pandain look scummy tbh.
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so you agree Koshi with my read of him as scummy but not the scummiest? I think everyone is having a problem not with what I'm saying but with not getting my conclusion. My conclusion is that he is the fourth scummiest person in this thread though in light of relooking at the voting I might put him as scummier than Sent. I have an issue with Sent being so effortless though, like Panda at least tried to make a case on someone. Sent hasn't done ANYTHING!
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Yeah. I despise "I can't do/hate Day 1s" as an excuse as well.
In my last 4 towngames I've lynched two cops and a vigi on Day 1. Shit happens. Doesn't mean I'm not going to put effort in.
Annoyingly Stutters used this excuse on me in Hogwarts as well, and he flipped town. It's just... annoying.
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