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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2013 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Prome, what does that "i reserve judgement on marv for now" mean? I found it odd that he came in saying "power me up", then when people actually did that he says this: Why? Oats is right here, if you are town, why would you possibly not want people to power you up? Or if you have a reason for it, why bring up the "power me like this" in the first place? This really is a bad post rayn. At best you're making things out to be not what they actually are; why I don't know. You say I came in saying "power me up". Well: On October 28 2013 06:19 marvellosity wrote: So... I'm going to need a bunch of you to ##twerk for me at some point. :/ Yes, I say that I'm going to need powering me up, but I literally do not ask people to power me up at that juncture. I specifically say "at some point". Why not bring it up? At some point, I will need people to ##twerk for me. It's very simple. Might as well mention it now, so it doesn't come as a shock to people later in the day. You then ask why I would possibly not want people to power me up? Well... On October 28 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote: There's a somewhat subtle aspect to it that makes me want to leave it until later in the day, because in part it relies on my reads on players. That's also been answered already. Why are you throwing suspicion on me for stuff that's already pretty clear in the thread, rayn? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Like what does that mean? Obviously it doesn't matter if it is town/scum that powers up my abilty or anybodys. But it looks like Promethelax is hinting that there is a scum powerrole that only scum can power up and that I suggested that. Something like that. It's ridiculous. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi do you think Prome is scum or not? rayn, tell me if I am scum for the reason Prom said out that conversation with Oats. Why am I scum for saying he is 3p because both alignments can power him up? As if town can only power themselves up by town votes? Like how the fuck does town know that? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote: This really is a bad post rayn. At best you're making things out to be not what they actually are; why I don't know. You say I came in saying "power me up". Well: Yes, I say that I'm going to need powering me up, but I literally do not ask people to power me up at that juncture. I specifically say "at some point". Why not bring it up? At some point, I will need people to ##twerk for me. It's very simple. Might as well mention it now, so it doesn't come as a shock to people later in the day. You then ask why I would possibly not want people to power me up? Well... That's also been answered already. Why are you throwing suspicion on me for stuff that's already pretty clear in the thread, rayn? Because you go from this: On October 28 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote: I have certain abilities at night that I can use based on how many people ##Twerk for me during the day. I think I'd rather deal with it a bit later in the day though, although I'm not going to stop anyone doing it if they want to. ...to this: On October 28 2013 06:53 marvellosity wrote: I would genuinely rather people didn't twerk right now btw, despite saying a little bit ago that people can feel free. in 20 min, and inbetween here i do twerk you, and Sentinel does twerk you. Like you are okay with people twerking you but when people actually do it you don't want it anymore. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:46 Koshi wrote: rayn, tell me if I am scum for the reason Prom said out that conversation with Oats. Why am I scum for saying he is 3p because both alignments can power him up? As if town can only power themselves up by town votes? Like how the fuck does town know that? I do not think you are scum because of the conversation. But do you think Prome is scum or not? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you go from this: ...to this: in 20 min, and inbetween here i do twerk you, and Sentinel does twerk you. Like you are okay with people twerking you but when people actually do it you don't want it anymore. All this means is that I hadn't thought it through completely yet. And that I didn't expect anyone to actually go ahead and do it without me specifically asking them to. Can you even conceive of a mafia motivation why I'd, in general terms, ask for something, and then kinda back off wanting it after someone does it? Because that's kinda what you're suggesting, and it's incredibly weak. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:55 marvellosity wrote: All this means is that I hadn't thought it through completely yet. And that I didn't expect anyone to actually go ahead and do it without me specifically asking them to. Can you even conceive of a mafia motivation why I'd, in general terms, ask for something, and then kinda back off wanting it after someone does it? Because that's kinda what you're suggesting, and it's incredibly weak. To me it sounded like "i might need someone to do something for me at some point, but if you want to do this now, go ahead". In the first place that does not sound townie at all. Okay, you might bring that up as town, you might aswell bring that up as mafia (because why not, regardless of alignment). I do not know why you would however bring that up as either alignment if you had not thought it through. If you had to bring that up as soon as possible (why would you?), why not then advice people with "please, do not do that yet" in the first place, before people actually start doing twerking? Also why did you not say - when we included your name (incorrect action) - "STOP, DON'T DO IT YET" if it was somehow harmful? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I get more powerful the more votes I get. And it doesnt matter if they are from scum or town. Does that answer your question Koshi? Also, I dont get how when I say everyone can power me, you immediately take it as everyone MUST power me to win the game. Its a bit weird. So Prome, do you think its weird that I 180ed on you? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 28 2013 18:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not think you are scum because of the conversation. But do you think Prome is scum or not? Mehh, I am probably not going to vote him. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 28 2013 19:05 Promethelax wrote: I had a similar reaction to marv's on reading the small print in my role pm. You'll note that moment was when I told Marv to not ##yolo me. I assume he has similar mechanics at work in his role and you, Rayn, have to trust me on this one: it makes sense, Well if marv is town, this is true, and i fucked up something i am sorry. But i base my actions on what i know, not on what i do not know as i can't unfortunately possibly do that. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Unless it works backwards for scum. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On October 28 2013 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote: I get more powerful the more votes I get. And it doesnt matter if they are from scum or town. Does that answer your question Koshi? I never asked that question... | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2013 13:04 Seuss wrote: Sorry, I was just really surprised at how much people were throwing on the table day 1. It's kinda like all the major town roles soft-claimed in a giant explosion of nonsense. Normally this would be a stupid thing to do, but then this game setup is pretty wonky. Oats is pretty confrontational and terse. He doesn't really address Pandain's concerns about rayn in a meaningful way, but just laughs him off. I don't really follow his [UoN]Sentinel scum/town rayn/Koshi logic because it isn't spelled out at all, it just sort of is. So right now I read him as slightly scummy, but he could just be town who isn't communicating well. We had a lot of those in my last game. You see this followup doesn't make sense. If Seuss is surprised/disappointed at how people were coming out and claiming asap, why then exacerbate the situation by making multiple comments with relation to guessing what these roles and powers were? If you're concerened about people claiming early, why then guess at powers and even ask other people to guess at powers? Someone a little more clever than I am and more experienced in mafia could probably make reasonably accurate guesses as to what their powers do Boo. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2013 19:13 Promethelax wrote: Oh, hey. Funny thought. Marv: power everyone. Town and scum. Think about interactions between their powers and you. Enjoy. Unless it works backwards for scum. It doesn't work like this, nor does it work the opposite to this :p But as you seem to have gathered, there is some sort of correlation between who exactly twerks me and how I can use my powers. That's all I'm going to say about it though. | ||
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Koshi
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