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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 07:37 GMT
#521
On October 28 2013 16:32 OOHCHILD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 16:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 28 2013 15:57 OOHCHILD wrote:
I haven't read the whole thread yet, but I have an important question for those who have not yet fully claimed.
Could your power belong to either town or mafia? Mine could.

I would like to ask a counter-questions (which should answer yours aswell).
What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?
Also why is this so important?

After I answer you, this conversation is done as far as I am concerned. Just know that you should not expect me to answer any follow up questions you have.

Show nested quote +
What would be a role that could not possibly be a role for both alignments?

I don't know.

Show nested quote +
Also why is this so important?

I do not trust you to understand this complicated idea, so I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it.

Nice to meet you Raynpelikoneet. Your name sounds like it belongs to a species of beautiful, tropical parrot!



What? What?! WHAT?!?!? Why do you unilaterally decide to end your conversation? What are the benefits to town of shutting down your discussion with the parrot?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 07:45 GMT
#522
I don't have a good reason to read it as two but not one, its just how I read the situation.

So how does that make Pandain scum again? I am not following you..

OOHCHILD: I would rather hear you giving us some reads than talk about mechanics, although i do not understand why do you want to shut down this discussion like Prome said. So could you answer him and then also give some reads on people. There has been a lot going on in thread. What do you make of it?
table for two on a tv tray
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 07:50 GMT
#523
On October 28 2013 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't have a good reason to read it as two but not one, its just how I read the situation.

So how does that make Pandain scum again? I am not following you..

OOHCHILD: I would rather hear you giving us some reads than talk about mechanics, although i do not understand why do you want to shut down this discussion like Prome said. So could you answer him and then also give some reads on people. There has been a lot going on in thread. What do you make of it?


I feel it in my bones. I can't explain logically why it should be scum rather than town, which is bothering me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 07:55 GMT
#524
Important: Marv don't ##yolo me. Thank you.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 08:14 GMT
#525
Pandain why do you have a townread on marv?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 08:17 GMT
#526
On October 28 2013 13:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok koshi called me 3p for having a charge role thing. I dont know what it means, but generally town dont call people 3p day 1 because there is no way to know. Scum do know though.

I called you 3p because you needed everybody to power you up. I understand you might have been joking or overstating it. I wasn't 100% serious.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 28 2013 09:03 GMT
#527
Koshi is there any reason your filter is a pile of nothing?
table for two on a tv tray
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 09:16 GMT
#528
The reason rhymes with bum
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 09:19 GMT
#529
I read the thread. I don't like Promethelax.
On October 28 2013 13:11 Promethelax wrote:
Oats: important!!! Who said they thought you were third p because anyone can power you up?

After Oats say it was me:
On October 28 2013 14:00 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, point I wanted to make about koshi saying oats was 3p for being able to be levelled up by non town:
Koshi is scum.

Did you go back and read what I said Promethelax? We were joking around a bit, or at least I was, and because he said that everybody had to charge him up I said he was 3p. Because it would make sense that 3p would have a wincon/power that needed a vote from everybody. Which is a hard thing to do unless it is more endgame, or get something really strong based on the % of people that vote for him.

I am obviously not saying Oats is 3p from my conversation with him. But that was my thought process, sick powers when everybody votes for him sounds 3p-ish.

There is nothing scummy about this:
On October 28 2013 09:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok read my role Pm.
I get powers if people type ##Refudiate Oatsmaster
Sick sick powers. And I dont have limitations like marv, everyone should type that.
EVERYONE.
Pandain looks way too serious to be scum, dunno why exactly he thinks rayn is scum.

On October 28 2013 09:24 Koshi wrote:
like everyone everyone?

On October 28 2013 09:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
like everyone everyone.

On October 28 2013 09:33 Koshi wrote:
Then I conclude you are 3p. Please play with town first 2 cycles. Scum always wins...

##Refudiate Oatsmaster

Now I wonder why you never went back to read this again. Where did I say that Oats can be levelled up by non-town? That doesn't even make sense? What does that even mean? Are you talking about a scum power that only scum can power up, and I just scumslipped about it?

I said because Oats needed everybody to vote for him that he was 3p. It was a joke. And a bit based on my own role pm that doesn't require everybody to vote for me.

Again, I realize Oats might have been overstating it, or joking around. But so was I.

Your interpretation of that conversation is bullshit though.

Why not first ask me what I was doing there? Why not reread the conversation between us? Why ask "who was it?" and then conclude "Ok that guy is scum". Why I am scum with Pandain? If it is not connection based. Am I scum solely for the above? If not why am I scum?

I am around the next 15 hours. Please let me know why you keep repeating I am scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 09:21 GMT
#530
On October 28 2013 12:47 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
So I get that this is a theme game but everyone is just trying to get their powers charged up. Allow me to say: STOP!

unless you have a town read on someone don't power them up. For serious. Why should we help scum this early in the game? Yer all dumb.

Lets treat this like a normal game for a little while, get some scum reads and do this right. Random powering up of other people is, in my opinion, policy lynchable, discuss.


This was honestly bothering me as well. People have been throwing hashtags left and right without a thought or care as to the consequences, and up until this post the only person who thought twice about it was Pandain (and even then only in the case of raynpelikoneet).

It's not that Koshi, [UoN]Sentinel, marvellosity, or Oatsmaster are particularly suspicious at the moment, but it's pretty silly to just blindly power them up. It's also mildly irresponsible of them to immediately reveal that they have potentially useful powers, though at this point I expect everyone has something and it's likely not all powers are created equal. Based on the hashtags, it's pretty obvious that the powers are connected to their given celebrities. Someone a little more clever than I am and more experienced in mafia could probably make reasonably accurate guesses as to what their powers do

My best guess is Refudiate (Sarah Palin) is going to be some form of role block.

The bolded sentence looks like fairly baseless and unwarranted criticism. Given I, and presumably others, actually literally require people to type specific things in the thread to use our powers, how else should we have gone about it, in your opinion? I can't keep the entirety of my role a secret, because then I don't have a role.

To the underlined, we've already had one vanilla town claim; are you calling that player a liar? Are you disagreeing with at least one other player (that I forget) who suggested it's unlikely we all have powers?

To the red, interesting that your mindset is to try to workout what powers these blues/powers have. Why would you even speculate on that right now if you're town? Much more of a mafia mindset.

I don't like your whole post basically.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 09:23 GMT
#531
On October 28 2013 18:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is there any reason your filter is a pile of nothing?

You surprised about that? I was here for the first 4 hours of the game. I gave Sentinel power, I gave Oats power, asked for power myself. I had a scumvibe on you for the blue fail, or at least pretending it was a mistake. Then I just read posts. Dnu what you expect.
I had a good night of sleep.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 09:23 GMT
#532
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 09:25 GMT
#533
Marv, would it benefit you for me to twerk for you? + Show Spoiler +
in the game silly
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 09:26 GMT
#534
On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote:
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,

rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions.

I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 09:28 GMT
#535
On October 28 2013 18:25 Promethelax wrote:
Marv, would it benefit you for me to twerk for you? + Show Spoiler +
in the game silly

Not right now, no, besides I'm only up to whatever page that post I quoted is on (20-21 or so)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 09:28 GMT
#536
On October 28 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote:
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,

rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions.

I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.


Why 'Rofl' do you think it's funny that I caught you by totally misunderstanding you?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 09:32 GMT
#537
I'm glad you picked up on Seuss' rolefishing, Prome.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2013 09:36 GMT
#538
On October 28 2013 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prome, what does that "i reserve judgement on marv for now" mean?
I found it odd that he came in saying "power me up", then when people actually did that he says this:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 06:53 marvellosity wrote:
I would genuinely rather people didn't twerk right now btw, despite saying a little bit ago that people can feel free.

Why?

Oats is right here, if you are town, why would you possibly not want people to power you up? Or if you have a reason for it, why bring up the "power me like this" in the first place?

I already alluded to this, I'm pretty disappointed that you missed it and felt the need to bring it up again, rayn.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 28 2013 09:36 GMT
#539
I'm not dumb. Just rusty.
also found it interesting how he bailed as soon as I gave him a clean bill of health. I said I liked him and he stopped posting like: goal accomplished,
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 28 2013 09:41 GMT
#540
On October 28 2013 18:28 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 18:26 Koshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 18:23 Promethelax wrote:
You are scum for the above, my understanding of what was said was that you were saying that because everyone (town and scum) powered up oats he was not town but I know from my own role pm that anyone can power up a town power role so that was a mistake scum would make.

Your explanation of it is reasonable though.

You ah, actually didn't say what you dislike about me besides that I interpreted what you said in a way you apparently didn't mean it. You are attacking me to follow thread sentiment, not because you believe it. This post does not dissuade me from thinking you are scum, it just tells me I had the wrong reason for the right conclusion,

rofl I am not attacking you because thread sentiment. I attack you because you attack me based on wrong assumptions.

I did not say he was not town for being able to be powered up by any alignement. I said he was 3p for needing EVERYBODY to vote for him.


Why 'Rofl' do you think it's funny that I caught you by totally misunderstanding you?

No it's rofl because you keep saying I am scum for silly reasons. I am now scum for saying I don't like you? My dislike is 100% justified because you said 2-4 times I am scum for reasons that aren't reasons.

I also made that post to clear my own name and it was clearly not a case on you. However, you are reading it as a case against you because I asked some questions to you? Which you ofcourse completely ignore. Nice to see you are 100% certain I am scum and you are not even bothering explaining yourself to me. Which you could do after yelling I am scum for "misunderstanding" my post.

And it is impossible you misunderstood that conversation between me and Oats. You didn't read that conversation imo, you just glossed over it. Thought it was something while it wasn't and then pushed that read without rechecking it because you are bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
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