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On November 01 2013 20:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi we need you in finding scum, not figuring out powers now. Be a good Koshi and join the discussion plz.
On November 01 2013 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi now you are being just dumb. Onegu is not the only person in this game even if he is scum.
On November 01 2013 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 21:12 Koshi wrote:Doesn't matter. I am not willing to let Onegu slide. After Onegu I can come up with another one 72 hours later. Because Onegu is just waiting and waiting and waiting and will then contribute a couple hours before lynch so we don't lynch him. Fuck that. On November 01 2013 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere. I can also tell you that in recent games Onegu said the exact opposite about my D1 play. wtf Koshi. I understand he is your top scumread and there is nothing wrong with that. You can't possibly do anything about it until he posts. Why don't you do something else inbetween? If he is in fact scum, what do you gain from tunneling just him now? If he is in fact town, what do you gain from tunneling just him now?
This is an obvious defense for Seuss/Onegu. I never saw you, rayn, fully agree with my case or even say that it was 100% a good case. You, rayn, say that you were baiting Onegu to give us information but it didn't look like that at all. Onegu clearing me is like the only thing he did because me making sure he got lynched should clear me enough, Onegu making a case on me doesn't change the fact that I was the one who nailed him, like if I was bussing Onegu then Onegu making a case on me while I am doing that doesn't change too much.
Also this:
On November 01 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh god what the hell?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Onegu
I can't even understand anything and the case on Koshi is a trainwreck..
If you wanted to get something out of it you should have engaged with Onegu in the thread. Onegu was here and he was talking to me, if you wanted to spill information you should have engaged with him, but you didn't, you just voted for him as soon as you saw his case on me. Onegu was there to chat with marv & me for at least an hour. But as soon as you come in he stops playing. Which is pretty coincedental.
So we got
1) rayn defending Onegu and telling us to wait and see what Onegu brings us.
2) Onegu making a case on me and having a conversation with marv/me.
3) rayn coming back and Onegu leaving.
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Now you say that you would never let Onegu make such a case on me and I agree. But it seems like you weren't there when it was happening. You recently said the opposite and that you were here and posting but the thread clearly doesn't reflect that. So I can only conclude that you weren't here.
Lets look at the timestamps:
On November 01 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
^ last post of rayn before Onegu case
On November 01 2013 22:39 Onegu wrote:
^ Onegu case
On November 01 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
^ rayn coming back to the thread. Onegu has left the building permanently.
Conclusion, you weren't around for the Onegu case on me and you weren't here to discuss his case with him. Coincedental like so many times this game? I think that is something marv blames you this game and now here is another example.
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Now I want to point fingers at 2 cowboys who were here while Onegu was discussing the case around me:
SnB did not feel the need to interact with Onegu at all. There was no vote coming from SnB as well. I don't know what he was doing. SnB came in later in the discussion so he could have easily taken sides.
On November 01 2013 23:34 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:50 marvellosity wrote:On November 01 2013 22:49 Onegu wrote:On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, I should be extremely obviously town to you, as my play is literally nothing like Dessert.
So Koshi's townread on me is not unfounded at all. Ill be honest the main reason I doubt you is because the replacement thing. I'm going to get mad about replacements as either alignment if it comes at a bullshit time. This exchange sticks in my craw Quoting it so its in my filter, I'll think about it later
On November 01 2013 23:37 strongandbig wrote:
Onegu's koshi case is bad. It's a case that could come from scum or town though. , pointing out aspects of koshi's play, not connecting them to scum motivations and not providing context for why it makes koshi specifically scum.
Oats briefly commented that Onegu his case was bad but didn't feel the need either to put the pressure on Onegu. But unlike SnB Oats was here at the start and believe it or not Oats pressured marv more than Onegu after the Onegu case. This looks so bad...
On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok so this is an extended OMGUS on Koshi by Onegu.
Interesting.
On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?
On November 01 2013 22:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:On November 01 2013 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
You wanna explain that vote marv?
Do you want to read my posts? right I was under the impression that you were voting Onegu, not Seuss. So what happened with your normal give the replacement a day to settle in?
So this is what Oats does:
1) Oh shit that case from Onegu is bad.
2) Why are you voting Onegu marv? It can't be linked to the case at all now can it?
3) So why are we not giving Onegu more time even though deadline is soon?
--> This is pressure on marv, there is no interaction with Onegu at all. But when Onegu is gone Oats comes back with this gem:
On November 02 2013 00:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
In fairness, you guys are a bunch of twats.
Man I kinda like the case on koshi actually. Rayn calling it bullshit seems like scum heaping more and more on what looks like a lynch. Might be a mislynch. Might not.
The suspicion trowing on rayn ends with:
On November 02 2013 01:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I am voting for Rayn.
It comes from mafia under a lot of pressure.
Look marv, let me think.
But the marv kinda stomps Oats down and Oats is forced to vote Onegu.
CONCLUSION:
Both rayn and Oats look terrible. But if rayn isn't scum. OATS FUCKING IS.
and there is the chance they are both scum, even though it is strange that Oats busses rayn then as soon as Onegu gets voted by rayn.
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I dont know yet Prome.
Ok so there are 2 pairs of people with exactly the same powers right?
So it makes sense that either all are town or the pairs are different alignments. So currently, Koshi and Prome are scum if that is the case.
There is a huge BUT here though. Would scum get the same powers as the town counterparts? I dont think so. Would scum get fakeclaims? Almost assuredly. So if the second scenario is the one that is true, then koshi and Prome fakeclaimed.
I dont actually think its that far a stretch to think that Prome faked the anger at marv for RBing him.
I wanna know why Prome chose Seuss actually. Prome please tell us.
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Oats, if you aren't scum Prome/rayn are scum and then rayn is doing some major bussing of Prome atm.
I think you are scum though.
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Or it's Prome/Kush
Which is pretty insane.
But that would explain Onegu being all alone when he made his case on me.
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Lol what a case Koshi. What a case.
Where to start?
Ok so I didnt interact with Onegu right? I didnt because I didnt think it was useful, either I believed his spiel or didnt. Secondly, I was playing devil's advocate with the Onegu lynch, and seeing what you people said to someone against the obvious scum lynch. Marv getting pretty angry was a good tell that he really really though Onegu was scum, also I went to sleep shortly after so there was no point keeping on doing that.
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Please, Rayn is gonna get lynched, if he flips scum it doesnt matter who he pushes today because it is him trying to survive by any way necessary and possibly distancing himself from his scum buddies.
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On November 04 2013 18:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol what a case Koshi. What a case.
Where to start?
Ok so I didnt interact with Onegu right? I didnt because I didnt think it was useful, either I believed his spiel or didnt. Secondly, I was playing devil's advocate with the Onegu lynch, and seeing what you people said to someone against the obvious scum lynch. Marv getting pretty angry was a good tell that he really really though Onegu was scum, also I went to sleep shortly after so there was no point keeping on doing that.
It's more of a summary then a case tbh.
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Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush?
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So you trow out Prome/Kush scumteam?
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actaully nah.. i am not posting anything.
find scum hte nby yourselves because you apparently are dead set on lynching me.
you are bad, all of you who are town.
i go play another game becaus playing this one is useless.
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On November 04 2013 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush?
VA: no reason to think he is scummier than rayn/Oats/Prome/Kush. If he is scum he got lucky you people decided to be scummy bitches.
Sentinel : Same story really. His power is either towny for information, or scum to shit up the thread. But that didn't really happen.
SnB: Who the fuck knows? But with either Prome/Oats being scum, I would be surprised if Seuss added 2 scums in his first 3 reads.
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On November 04 2013 19:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
actaully nah.. i am not posting anything.
find scum hte nby yourselves because you apparently are dead set on lynching me.
you are bad, all of you who are town.
i go play another game becaus playing this one is useless.
Play the game or post baby seals.
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I don't find the game fun and worth playing anymore when the case against you is "you were not here time X and Y" and people do nothing for 5 days and just sheep marv. I had fun at various times on this game but not any more.
I hope people would play the game and other people scum for what they do in the game instead of when they were not here, because i do not lie about not being here, not as town, and not as scum. Ever. I think it's cheap.
goodluck.
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Still it was nothing to do with lying, don't know why you keep repeating that.
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For example, the top bunch of quotes Koshi made at the top of the page were nothing to do with you being here or not, those were things you posted while you WERE here.
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On November 04 2013 19:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush? VA: no reason to think he is scummier than rayn/Oats/Prome/Kush. If he is scum he got lucky you people decided to be scummy bitches.Sentinel : Same story really. His power is either towny for information, or scum to shit up the thread. But that didn't really happen. SnB: Who the fuck knows? But with either Prome/Oats being scum, I would be surprised if Seuss added 2 scums in his first 3 reads.
Underlined stuff is all good and correct.
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On November 04 2013 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't find the game fun and worth playing anymore when the case against you is "you were not here time X and Y" and people do nothing for 5 days and just sheep marv. I had fun at various times on this game but not any more.
I hope people would play the game and other people scum for what they do in the game instead of when they were not here, because i do not lie about not being here, not as town, and not as scum. Ever. I think it's cheap.
goodluck.
That is not the case against you. The case is that you didn't to shit since the end of N1 except argue with marv for no reason at all. The entire time...
You didn't scumhunt for shit except that case on WoS. What did you do D2 or D3?
D2 you did nothing except attempt to derail the Seuss case by letting me do the legwork. I fucking made a good case on Seuss and you call me a baddie because I don't want to make another case on Pandain...
D3 you are blaming set-up balance without trying to figure it out, you call marv scum without giving reasons except him saying you are scum. When I point out a possible setup to you that is balanced and we are able to calm you down and see that marv is not scum you say Prome is scum. When I point out it is more likely Oats is scum than Prome, you vote with me like a little sheep. And after that Prome post a bit later you again go into ragemode and call him scum while nobody else sees why and you refuse to tell us.
tldr: It is your own fault people want to lynch you. We expect raynexcellence and not you being a bitch 24/7.
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##unvote
##vote: raynpolikoneet
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Starting from this game i will get mislynhed as town, probably a lot, because i will intentionally start playing worse.
I understand now what Vayne said in some game, when he said he does not give a shit if his target gets lynched or not, he just careas about if he is right or not in his reads. That's the approach i am going to take in these games from now on, as the convincing other people part has never worked with me. Expect unbelieveably bad and lurky play from me now on, even when i am confident i am right.
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On November 04 2013 19:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2013 18:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Huh ok. What do you think about other people not called Rayn/Prome/marv/Oats/Kush? VA: no reason to think he is scummier than rayn/Oats/Prome/Kush. If he is scum he got lucky you people decided to be scummy bitches. Sentinel : Same story really. His power is either towny for information, or scum to shit up the thread. But that didn't really happen. SnB: Who the fuck knows? But with either Prome/Oats being scum, I would be surprised if Seuss added 2 scums in his first 3 reads.
How come you dont think marv has a chance to be scum but you think either me or Prome is scum? Arent you using the same powers =different alignments?
Marv what do you think about the case on me?
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