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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 11:57 GMT
#2877
On November 01 2013 20:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Basically this is the difference. As town Pandain wants to be right before the lynch and pushes who he thinks is the best lynch. As scum Pandain wants to be right but he doesn't really REALLY care if his target get's lynched (see Noir and Thug life). Then he yells people how who he "pushed" should have been lynched while not having put any effort into it when it was relevant. That's what i am starting to see in this game. scum!Pandain always falls apart at last on D2.

Yes, this is kinda interesting; Pandain was very very interested in the right lynch in Golden because he was worried about the OP wagon. Need to see how he was in this game.

The opposite..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 11:59 GMT
#2878
Koshi we need you in finding scum, not figuring out powers now. Be a good Koshi and join the discussion plz.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:03 GMT
#2879
And marv, i don't mean D1 because all Pandain was was a little sheep. I mean D2 where he made a big case and pretty much immediately let go of it when his #2 scumread called him out for it (lol).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:10 GMT
#2882
Koshi now you are being just dumb. Onegu is not the only person in this game even if he is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:15 GMT
#2887
On November 01 2013 21:12 Koshi wrote:
Doesn't matter. I am not willing to let Onegu slide. After Onegu I can come up with another one 72 hours later.
Because Onegu is just waiting and waiting and waiting and will then contribute a couple hours before lynch so we don't lynch him.

Fuck that.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 18:18 Onegu wrote:
Koshi has been sheeping alot and just asking for powerups day one. Really dont like that from him. Also I am more than 30 pages back I cannot add : / Im in the middle of night 1 with nukes flying everywhere.

I can also tell you that in recent games Onegu said the exact opposite about my D1 play.

wtf Koshi. I understand he is your top scumread and there is nothing wrong with that. You can't possibly do anything about it until he posts. Why don't you do something else inbetween?
If he is in fact scum, what do you gain from tunneling just him now?
If he is in fact town, what do you gain from tunneling just him now?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:30 GMT
#2892
I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying you are effectively doing nothing now. If Onegu is scum there are 2 more scum. If Onegu is town you have fucking wasted a day because you are too stubborn to do anything else than saying "my case is best" when Onegu hasn't even caught up yet and can't do anything about your case in any ways.

You can't get further with your case on him. So find other scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:34 GMT
#2895
So Koshi, what do you think about Pandain and Prome?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:43 GMT
#2902
On October 31 2013 02:49 Seuss wrote:
Going back through the first day for Oats, he really embodies what's been annoying me all game. He's something of a bully, spending most of his time pushing people around while generally avoiding questions himself. There's a smattering of posts which involve effort/fair argument, but his signal to noise ratio is bad. He's also second only to Koshi in terms of random power-begging.

I think in the end of the day mad rush I gave him more credit than he deserved, and weighted the meta rebuffs I'd received too heavily. Maybe I'm just jealous, but he got to dance around all of day 1 while I and others got grilled. I don't like that, and I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.

Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read. I regret having powered him up.

I am conflicted about this post because on the other hand it's a total 180 on Oats for idk what reason and it contradicts his behavior regarding Oats on D1.
On the other hand the second paragraph is exactly my thoughts on Oats on N1 and after that. :E
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:44 GMT
#2903
I mean these parts:
I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.
Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:48 GMT
#2907
what does say nothing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#2912
On November 01 2013 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:49 Seuss wrote:
Going back through the first day for Oats, he really embodies what's been annoying me all game. He's something of a bully, spending most of his time pushing people around while generally avoiding questions himself. There's a smattering of posts which involve effort/fair argument, but his signal to noise ratio is bad. He's also second only to Koshi in terms of random power-begging.

I think in the end of the day mad rush I gave him more credit than he deserved, and weighted the meta rebuffs I'd received too heavily. Maybe I'm just jealous, but he got to dance around all of day 1 while I and others got grilled. I don't like that, and I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.

Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read. I regret having powered him up.

I am conflicted about this post because on the other hand it's a total 180 on Oats for idk what reason and it contradicts his behavior regarding Oats on D1.
On the other hand the second paragraph is exactly my thoughts on Oats on N1 and after that. :E

The 2nd paragraph says nothing.

Literally you're saying "he has the exact same thoughts in 2nd paragraph"

Literally his only thought in the 2nde paragraph is "I don't know where he stands at the moment"

This is not a townie nor a mafia thing to say, it provides nothing of any interest other than an extremely brief summary of what Oats did on N1.

I know it says nothing. It doesn't change the fact that i thought the same, and still do, because Oats hasn't done shit. And his nuke on Koshi was so horribly reasoned i don't even know what to say..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 13:01 GMT
#2914
On November 01 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:49 Seuss wrote:
Going back through the first day for Oats, he really embodies what's been annoying me all game. He's something of a bully, spending most of his time pushing people around while generally avoiding questions himself. There's a smattering of posts which involve effort/fair argument, but his signal to noise ratio is bad. He's also second only to Koshi in terms of random power-begging.

I think in the end of the day mad rush I gave him more credit than he deserved, and weighted the meta rebuffs I'd received too heavily. Maybe I'm just jealous, but he got to dance around all of day 1 while I and others got grilled. I don't like that, and I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.

Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read. I regret having powered him up.

I am conflicted about this post because on the other hand it's a total 180 on Oats for idk what reason and it contradicts his behavior regarding Oats on D1.
On the other hand the second paragraph is exactly my thoughts on Oats on N1 and after that. :E

The 2nd paragraph says nothing.

Literally you're saying "he has the exact same thoughts in 2nd paragraph"

Literally his only thought in the 2nde paragraph is "I don't know where he stands at the moment"

This is not a townie nor a mafia thing to say, it provides nothing of any interest other than an extremely brief summary of what Oats did on N1.

I know it says nothing. It doesn't change the fact that i thought the same, and still do, because Oats hasn't done shit. And his nuke on Koshi was so horribly reasoned i don't even know what to say..

It means im town dummy.

You tunneled Pandain on D1. Then out of nowhere you did nuke Koshi. Then you laid out 6 reads who were "not town but not sure". That's not town!Oats.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 13:01 GMT
#2915
Or "reads" - better said names...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 13:07 GMT
#2920
On November 01 2013 22:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 22:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2013 22:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:50 marvellosity wrote:
On November 01 2013 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 31 2013 02:49 Seuss wrote:
Going back through the first day for Oats, he really embodies what's been annoying me all game. He's something of a bully, spending most of his time pushing people around while generally avoiding questions himself. There's a smattering of posts which involve effort/fair argument, but his signal to noise ratio is bad. He's also second only to Koshi in terms of random power-begging.

I think in the end of the day mad rush I gave him more credit than he deserved, and weighted the meta rebuffs I'd received too heavily. Maybe I'm just jealous, but he got to dance around all of day 1 while I and others got grilled. I don't like that, and I don't like that I really don't know where he stands on anyone at the moment.

Combined with his N1 actions, I'm sticking with my scum read. I regret having powered him up.

I am conflicted about this post because on the other hand it's a total 180 on Oats for idk what reason and it contradicts his behavior regarding Oats on D1.
On the other hand the second paragraph is exactly my thoughts on Oats on N1 and after that. :E

The 2nd paragraph says nothing.

Literally you're saying "he has the exact same thoughts in 2nd paragraph"

Literally his only thought in the 2nde paragraph is "I don't know where he stands at the moment"

This is not a townie nor a mafia thing to say, it provides nothing of any interest other than an extremely brief summary of what Oats did on N1.

I know it says nothing. It doesn't change the fact that i thought the same, and still do, because Oats hasn't done shit. And his nuke on Koshi was so horribly reasoned i don't even know what to say..

It means im town dummy.

You tunneled Pandain on D1. Then out of nowhere you did nuke Koshi. Then you laid out 6 reads who were "not town but not sure". That's not town!Oats.

Lol. Actually that is town oats. Not the laid out 6 reads thing, but that was me ordering my mind and getting back into the game after like a day of not really doing anything.

In which Seuss changed the read on you from scum to town. Yeah indeed.

What, didn't he do the opposite?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 13:11 GMT
#2922
On November 01 2013 22:09 marvellosity wrote:
Read my post and you'll find out :p

I mean at the end of D1 he had a townread on Oats, and changed it to a scumread after Oats nuked Koshi. I thought Koshi was saying the opposite?
But yeah, your post is right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#3003
Oh god what the hell?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Onegu

I can't even understand anything and the case on Koshi is a trainwreck..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#3004
Yeah and that too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 15:01 GMT
#3005
Also why the hell is nobody playing this game other than me, marv and Koshi?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 16:42 GMT
#3013
I am playing Path of Exile until someone who is not Koshi or marv comes and says something..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 01 2013 16:42 GMT
#3014
...useful.
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