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On October 20 2013 13:35 VayneAuthority wrote: the point still stands. so your rebuttal to my long post is annoyingly pointless when it doesnt refute or move the conversation anywhere. I've been told not to write anything in the thread by them so yes. | ||
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On October 20 2013 13:36 Grackaroni wrote: Pretty much everyone in Hufflepuff gave townreads on the majority of people in our house prior to this within our QT. BAM. Point refuted. The difference being everyone had really really bad points of why they were town reads. | ||
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On October 20 2013 14:27 StorrZerg wrote: Feels very unlikely 2 mafia would be paired up with town though 2 mafia and 1 town? Only LA and stutters had mason | ||
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On October 20 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote: man so i now i havet o liek read and stuff damn On October 20 2013 07:09 Blazinghand wrote: FINE FINE ILL READ THET HREAD | ||
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On October 20 2013 16:29 syllogism wrote: Holyflare still seems mafia to me for this post, for these reasons The whole last paragraph of his post is essentially suspicious fluff I completely missed this post the first time around, however, to say it is pointless fluff is ridiculous. Quite clearly in the thread people were not coming to any conclusions on who to lynch hence flailing like fish (how can that phrase even be alignment indicative?), this post was an attempt to consolidate people who were around. The 3 people I chose may have been lurkers but they were people with actual posts/content that looked suspicious. I didn't mention others because they either had no posts or (you mentioned yourself as a slow player) had actually posted stuff that wasn't mocsta tunnel. If you even check who my vote is on now, it's on BH. I've made a case against him because he is yet again, trolling the shit out of people and 'slow playing the game', exactly what I said I hated. The fact that you only read my filter but not around the suspicious posts is ridiculous. This is especially pertinent when it comes to: + Show Spoiler + On October 20 2013 16:48 syllogism wrote: On day 1 Holyflare was mostly focused on lynching a lurker, but he ignored LonelyMeow/Tunkeg, despite definitely being aware of him being in the game. In fact, this interaction he had with him is suspicious He doesn't specify whether the post is suspicious or not, just that he doesn't "like things like this". Yet he supposedly wants to ask the same question from Pandain/Grackeroni/Vayne His suspicious interactions with mafia aren't limited to just Lonelymeow: He looks up Onegu's meta, concludes that ET's case is based on false premises, but then decides that he is worth lynching anyway due to the lack of activity. The spoiler tagged comment at the end of his post is completely nonsensical. Why would you point out that something is either a mafia or town slip? As I said above lonemeow had 0 posts when I made that case, would you like me to target every lurker in the game? No, that would be ridiculous that is hardly consolidating the thread and the flailing like fish argument would still stand. I also didn't mention you, JAT, lonemeow, onegu, vayne or other people that had disappeared from the thread. The palmar vote was suspicious as fuck and I had made a lonemeow case at the end of night 1 because of it. His meta wasn't in line with his noir game (he was one of the people I was going to push later, which i've quite clearly mentioned before PROOF ) his vote went to palmar who was not there at the time when only 3 people were on palmar. I wanted to know why these people were on palmar when a lot of people were saying he was displaying town palmar attributes. This is why I did not put my vote on an 'easy' target and instead DID ACTUAL SCUM HUNTING. I made a case on mattchew, some people swapped for a few seconds and then went straight back to palmar. Why would I bother doing these things if my motive was just to get an easy lynch? I was quite clearly questioning peoples motives and trying to get to the bottom of things. As for + Show Spoiler + On October 20 2013 16:55 syllogism wrote: First of all, it's now hard to believe that we ignored this guy. Secondly, this Holyflare mention is completely out of place and nonsensical and suspicious. He is "interesting" , but "will eventually slip up"? What? Pandain seems to have been fond of throwing out a few townie suspicions and one mafia for good measure. This seems to be a high point of my interactions with ET for you. + Show Spoiler + On October 20 2013 22:13 syllogism wrote: If he is mafia, his motive was to "interact" with ET and provide some easy content that anyone can do regardless of alignment. He probably didn't even realize that it made ET look bad; he definitely did not trash the case. Anyway, neither townies or mafia play perfectly and consider everything. 1) Mattchew in our house QT stated that although Onegu had posted nothing he was playing to his town meta. 2) I got interested in this meta and consulted the TL Database 3) I found that ET's conclusion was wrong and mattchew was in fact right on his point about meta. 5) I posted to clear this suspicion. 6) It doesn't entirely vindicate him because he hasn't posted anything. That doesn't make me scummy it makes HIM scummy, I'm going out of my way to research peoples reads on other people to confirm motives and cases. 7) This is what annoys me about this. You think I didn't chase it up because ET was scum? No. If you read around the case and my post it quite clearly shows that me and mocsta were agreeing. There is nothing more you can do if a person does not want to post, how can I pressure someone who isn't around? You also mention vayne's point about hopeless posting towny things. We were specifically told not to post in the thread from the QT so I stuck to that reasoning. I almost made a rage post at vayne and actually copied it to a notepad so I could see sense before I posted it so here it is + Show Spoiler + Here's the thing. It's easy to say "trololol I went through pandain's filter so these must be town" and I'm confused as to why you wouldn't check this before suggesting that his moves are town orientated because someone else did the same in another game. Pandain's filter also contains (conveniently left out): On October 17 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote: Grack is not certain town but probably town. He posted a lot early on and made jokes. I haven't seen scum do that early on though I acknowledge it could happen. Usually town are the very first ones to post, and him making jokes amplifies my town reads. He also made very weak arguments in Thug Life which is why I thought he was scum, but it ended up being wrong. This is fine for an explanation, what about you? On October 17 2013 05:16 Pandain wrote: Grack is town pretty obvious so far Here he has mentioned Grack as not certain town but probably town and also pretty obvious town. Does this confirm him? No. On October 18 2013 05:09 Pandain wrote: The people who contributed greatly earlier on in the thread were: Hopeless Last Argument Skanjabs Yamato I have town reads on all of these people and others, upon analyzing them, should confirm/deny this from their own perspective. I also would like it if someone took the time to summarize their House QT for the thread. There are 4 more people you can also cross off your scum list because he said they were town right? -.- The fact that someone who is scum has mentioned people as probably town reads is by no means an indicator of their actual alignment. If that were the case people would just spout of their entire team as town reads every game but that doesn't happen does it. There is nothing stopping hopeless being mafia, he knows people are town he finds any link he can to prove it to them that he is town, that is basic mafia play 101 and if you don't think so then I was wrong about you looking at things logically. Not to mention the things he has pointed out are incredibly WIFOM. You say that the motivation behind hopeless is townlike because he is confirming 3 other people and is now linked to them. That link means nothing if you are no longer seeing him as a lynch candidate. He clearly didn't mention grack who was the most pertinent read in pandain's entire filter? Why is that? Hopeless has had no activity in the qt the entire day 1 and has only just started posting - moreso - now that storr has outed 1 mafia. It's already been mentioned how our reads and ideas were put into the QT beforehand so I'm not going to mention it again. In regards to this entire debate, storr checks a house at night and finds out if any of the people come back red. He mentioned that this could theoretically show an SK too. There have been a few theories thrown around but one that I think is most plausable is the framer situation. Mattchew was a 3rd possible wagon at the time of the palmar lynch. He wasn't likely to be night killed that night and so if there was a framer around he would be the perfect candidate to be framed. This would consequently show hufflepuff as having 1 mafia to a house cop check. | ||
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I have an extra vote that I can announce in thread. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:39 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont understand the rage post involving grack considering I made it perfectly clear that I would lynch grack over you holyflare but you are the 2 most suspect to me. I'm saying that the hopeless case is baseless because the most obvious person in pandain's filter is grack. That only leaves me out. I do not care if that is incriminating, that is why it was a rage post and was deleted. It was written in the heat of the moment so don't expect it to be coherent. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:47 syllogism wrote: I find that hard to believe since squib is the vt role. No, squib is someone with no magical powers, hence why my 'power' is not a power, it is a vote. | ||
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On October 21 2013 02:47 VayneAuthority wrote: what is your character specifically? the name Zacharius Smith | ||
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(in mafia game not irl)
