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On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar?
I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though 
The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2.
We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later.
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On October 18 2013 05:37 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 05:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar? I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2. We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later. who are the vets in my QT? Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77 ? bold are the people I know played at least one thousand games here at TL.mafia... who looks best?
who looks best as in who looks the most townish?
You should probably ask the other question in your QT.
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On October 18 2013 05:51 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 05:41 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 18 2013 05:37 supersoft wrote:On October 18 2013 05:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote:
what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier.
toad? Palmar? I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2. We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later. who are the vets in my QT? Onegu, syllogism, LastArgument, Tunkeg, supersoft, yamato77 ? bold are the people I know played at least one thousand games here at TL.mafia... who looks best? who looks best as in who looks the most townish? You should probably ask the other question in your QT. I am asking you because you said one of us is scum. And Syllo looks okay. Does Syllo look better or worse than me/Yamato/LA whoever go ahead.
From a towniness ranking I'd have to say
LA>Supersoft>Yamato/Syllo>Tunk/oneg
I don't want to lynch anyone of you guys today though. That an important decision is best made with more information and I could be reasonably wrong on most of you guys atm. I mean I know I'm not mafia, could be Palmar as well but it's just way more likely to be one of you guys although Palmar is the one looking the worst, but like I said I'm not willing to lynch anyone that important d1 with so little information right now.
I also won't vote anyone from Slytherin with the exception for Mocsta. Not that I want to lynch Mocsta at all but I'll flat out refuse to put my vote on anyone else on Slytherin at this point of time.
Thus the number of people who I have to work with is already reduced by 50% due to my stupid role 
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massive towntell right there
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On October 18 2013 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Arguments that x is too scummy to be scum are always incorrect
it's not about him being to scummy to be scum. It's about Palmar being incredibly stubborn ever since the-game-before-L and L happened and he completly lost it when trying to change his meta to the point that he doesn't give a crap if he's not getting his way.
He's not getting his way in this game either. If this was palmar refusing to play for no reason yeah sure lynch him but that's not what's happening.
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On October 18 2013 06:39 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 06:30 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 18 2013 06:27 Pandain wrote:
Arguments that x is too scummy to be scum are always incorrect it's not about him being to scummy to be scum. It's about Palmar being incredibly stubborn ever since the-game-before-L and L happened and he completly lost it when trying to change his meta to the point that he doesn't give a crap if he's not getting his way. He's not getting his way in this game either. If this was palmar refusing to play for no reason yeah sure lynch him but that's not what's happening. If your waiting for the reason to be for no reason you won't find scum. Your voting Ceph despite clearly having time to go through some filters and while that's an okay choice it's definitely not a town choice or what I would expect from you.
I know that Palmar or any of the vets for that matter will not just flat out not play for 3 days straight. Therefore I know my judgement on Palmar is most likely to improve a crapton in the near future and I'm more than willing to lynch someone else on d1 especially for that reason.
I told you I'm really sleep because I only had 3 hours of sleep today and it's 23:40 over here... I'm waiting for emnjay to get on irc to watch IS with him and he said he'd be back in -10 minutes, so yeah I had time but didn't expect to have time and even if I had I don't think reading filters is a good thing in my state right now. Once that's done I'll be in bed.
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@Onegu
So my QT didnt work last night, so I didnt really play. that doesn't really make sense to me.
Also how can someone backpaddle from a slip into speculation? Is it a slip or is it not?
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I do agree on Snowman a lot... but I really don't want to vote that
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On October 18 2013 18:34 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 18:26 I-be-Pro wrote:@Onegu So my QT didnt work last night, so I didnt really play. that doesn't really make sense to me. Also how can someone backpaddle from a slip into speculation? Is it a slip or is it not? He knows it heavly themed because he is scum, when someone calls him out on it the only thing he can do is go to setup speculation.
how does a scum know more about this set-up being heavily themed or not? How can it be impossible or at least unlikely for a townie to know that? I'm pretty sure it is heavily themed because it said so in the OP and simply due to the retarded role I got.
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On October 18 2013 18:35 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 18:33 I-be-Pro wrote:
I do agree on Snowman a lot... but I really don't want to vote that Can you give me the timestamps of when he posted in your QT?
Actually I can't... Our QT was apparently compromised and had to be redone, so every post from yesterday is just copy&paste from the hosts with a "-Toad" added to it or something like that, so the timestamps are all fucked up.
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where is BH when you need him
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I need BH's answer to my question in QT
I'm not going to vote anyone from Slytherin until I get that answer.
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On October 18 2013 21:55 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 21:50 syllogism wrote:
I don't think the big post by Cephiro makes him look any better. It looks something made out of obligation and the tone isn't what I expect from him based on the games I've played with him. He spends so much time on quite pointless defense. The activity and tone are the issue, not really whatever you are defending against in the post. Perhaps it would be more helpful in the context of your QT.
I also do not like how your reads are tugged near the end, spoiler tagged and definitely not the focus of your post. Again, based on my experience you are an outspoken player who pushes his reads. I'm not seeing this in your cases and in fact I do not know who you want to lynch.
Finally, I'm skeptical that the list of "other suspicious people" is genuine. The list of names does not make sense to me, because they do not seem to stand out at all as suspicious and in fact some of them have looked towny. It's a weird mix of names. His reads differing from mine isn't an issue, but that specific list of names is. It's also strange that you note that you will make "small cases on" unless you change your read "strongly". Awkward and fake sounding phrasing.
##vote Cephiro
I'm leaving in about an hour and will be gone for at least 3 hours. It's possible that I won't be back before the deadline, but I likely will be able to.
I approve of this message, I was too hasty to be swayed by the big post last night. According to rayn, Cephiro posted more in the QT but not in the thread after his one post. Further his one post doesn't actually push anyone for lynch. In his towngames he seems infinitely more involved than this. Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 14:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
There is one glaring contradiction he makes in the QT where he calls me "the most reasonable person in our house atm" but then I am a scumread in his post here...seems strange. This is also pretty concerning, and backs up syllogism's point about the list of names being weird. ##Vote: Cephiro
Same here. So with the 3 of us and Supersoft all thinking the same way, only Palmar thinking Ceph is actually town I really like this lynch even more.
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On October 18 2013 22:45 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 22:41 Stutters695 wrote:
Ceph: His post is really similar to his posting in Noir. Including how he attacks people who call out his absences, easy targets on d1, etc. He's probably my first choice right now.
JAT: I don't like a d1 lynch on him. Both games I've played with him, he was active and if he's town here there is no reason he won't step it up. There are better lynches imo.
Question Syllo: Have you thought about lynching me at all this game? Why push JAT over me? Our filters are pretty similarly worthless and I have just spent my last two games lurking as scum. This reasoning makes very little sense. Whenever you play with him as town he is active and involved, he is not active and involved here, therefore he is a bad lynch? That's backwards.
you're reading it wrong I guess, I had to read it 3 times as well though. He's trying to say "ASSUMING he is town he WILL kick it up a notch, IF that happens he's town, if it doesn't he's mafia and we'll lynch him". Basicly saying he wants to see if this holds true for another day with really crappy wording. Like I said, made me stumble as well.
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On October 19 2013 00:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2013 22:57 Hopeless1der wrote:
Mocsta, why is syllo getting a free pass day1 for being a potential town asset and BH(Zaragon) is not? Because zaragon was my best scum read.Bh doesn't affect that. I will give cephiro some co sideratiin when I get home. I don't feel confident with him in general after noir regardless. So fat one gu looks better too so I'm not interested in him currently.
Did you say that somewhere? I just checked his filter to see if he posted at all and apparently he had 3 posts before being replaced out, so I can't say it's hard to have a "best scumread" on someone with 0 posts but on someone with 3 posts that I couldn't even remember is still odd I'd say.
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On October 19 2013 00:11 Mocsta wrote:
It's in my filter. Pretty clear.
I'm on pho e and drunk. Can't be fucked looking
Stop being lazy abd do a ctrl f
playing dota, can't ctrl+f during captains draft
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okay I figured this shit out. Palmar is mafia and he's angry at everyone because he's indeed doing the right thing because Mocsta is mafia as well and they had it planned all along. But Palmar expected to get less flak so he's mad while knowing his target is mafia.
My gut is always right on these things.
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On October 19 2013 03:00 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 02:57 I-be-Pro wrote:
okay I figured this shit out. Palmar is mafia and he's angry at everyone because he's indeed doing the right thing because Mocsta is mafia as well and they had it planned all along. But Palmar expected to get less flak so he's mad while knowing his target is mafia.
My gut is always right on these things. wut
it's the not the only but one of the few explanations that's okay with palmars behavior while at the same time we have mocsta who is conveniently SAM.
We're still lynching Ceph. I'm always right on my gutfeelings but no need to jinx it
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On October 19 2013 03:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 03:03 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 19 2013 03:00 Mattchew wrote:On October 19 2013 02:57 I-be-Pro wrote:
okay I figured this shit out. Palmar is mafia and he's angry at everyone because he's indeed doing the right thing because Mocsta is mafia as well and they had it planned all along. But Palmar expected to get less flak so he's mad while knowing his target is mafia.
My gut is always right on these things. wut it's the not the only but one of the few explanations that's okay with palmars behavior while at the same time we have mocsta who is conveniently SAM.We're still lynching Ceph. I'm always right on my gutfeelings but no need to jinx it Right.. how about instead of trying to throw shit at me wearing a mask. You man up and and fabricate a case.
I'm just saying it's a possibility. I had you has town so far but the scumreads I have just don't line up with palmar being in their.
Could be I'm wrong about a read and that's why it's not lining up but I just put it in here to state the possibility.
I'm not considering lynching you based on something like that, so yes if I'll have a go at you d2 or d3 I'll make a case.
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yeah palmar sounds good to me
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