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Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:35 GMT
#633
On October 17 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote:
I'm probably not going to wall of text when I need to drive discussion. It's more important to poke and prod and ask questions for me this game because in general, few people are doing that. If a lot of useful discussion was being created, I could sit back, but this is not the case.

Anyway, I'm still watching the same people. I'd add an addendum that Hopeless being is active is unusual. Not sure what to make of it ATM.


Could you not ignore the case I posted on you? I'm not just going to forget about it.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:39 GMT
#637
On October 17 2013 23:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:35 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote:
I'm probably not going to wall of text when I need to drive discussion. It's more important to poke and prod and ask questions for me this game because in general, few people are doing that. If a lot of useful discussion was being created, I could sit back, but this is not the case.

Anyway, I'm still watching the same people. I'd add an addendum that Hopeless being is active is unusual. Not sure what to make of it ATM.


Could you not ignore the case I posted on you? I'm not just going to forget about it.

I addresses it already. Your suspicion is weak because my reads are clear and consistent. Me not voting for everyone I find noteworthy does not make me mafia. Me voting for a policy lynch on the worst player in the thread does not make me mafia. It's not worth talking about because it's not even remotely correct.


You most certainly did not address it. I did not say you should vote for everyone you find. I did not say voting on a policy lynch makes you scum. I gave evidence that your reads are not clear and consistent. Do not attempt to strawman my points away, it will not work.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:45 GMT
#642
On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote:
Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you.


"Hey, maybe if I just ignore the case and insult him, he will stop attacking me" - #yamato2013

I mean you can refuse to answer it if you want, it will only result in you looking scummier and inevitably being lynched.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:47 GMT
#644
On October 17 2013 23:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 23:31 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 17 2013 23:10 LastArgument wrote:
Just to be completely clear, Hopeless - you don't have any specific scumreads at the moment?

Nothing that I'd be confident in any case I tried to make, no. skanj is still my strongest read, but thats a relative term. I'd rather lynch VA with his jokes to see yamato squirm at this point.


I am your strongest scumread?

You told me to cool off, because you thought I was getting overwhelmed and it seemed "too easy". This implies that you had a town read on me, obviously.

You then give me additional "points" for the case I made.

And now I am a scumread of yours?
I'm sorry but I don't follow this faulty logic of yours, please explain.

False: The implication of asking you to cool off is that I'm second guessing myself. It was still a scum read, but in the last game I played, I got too nitpicky and then tunneled a fellow townie rather unproductively. I'd rather lay off for a bit, cool off myself and see what you come back with. Your response to my request to read Yamato's filter looks like a tunneled townie who insists on being right, which is kind of what I expected.

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On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote:
Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you.


Well don't keep us in suspense....he's 3-headed Fluffy isnt he


Oh, the response where I actually read his filter and see that it is different to this game? Sure buddy.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:52 GMT
#651
I'd rather not have the read: "tunnelled townie who insists on being right".

It should be edited to: "tunnelling townie who is closing in on scum".

Thxbbz.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 14:55 GMT
#655
On October 17 2013 23:51 Pandain wrote:
Skanjab, you are tunneling Yamato and reading into things. He doesn't have to exactly fit with his town meta to be town, heck he was playing his scum meta up until the second day of play in Thug and he was town. Also why /would you lynch a potentially very valuable vet?


Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 17 2013 15:01 GMT
#661
On October 17 2013 23:57 Pandain wrote:
I also don't like how he started to get the "dumb" response to Mocsta by saying "Are you kidding me".

Responses like that indicate you feel threatened so you go after the other person

On October 17 2013 23:41 yamato77 wrote:
Well, at least this idiotic push if me gives me a read on you.


Sup?

Pandain, I get the feeling from your posts about yamato that you believe my case to be solely/mainly meta, this is not the case (ha pun) meta is a very very tiny factor, that wasn't even part of my original case on him.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 12:08 GMT
#1004
On October 18 2013 21:02 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 21:01 Onegu wrote:
Im leaning town on mocosta, and he is a terrible lynch day 1. With his claim it lets parity cops check him as town would never fake claim SAM. I think mattchew is scum I will put together a case after dinner.


This guy is town.


y tho
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 14:22 GMT
#1049
Hey Palmar

On October 18 2013 21:08 Skanjab1s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 21:02 Palmar wrote:
On October 18 2013 21:01 Onegu wrote:
Im leaning town on mocosta, and he is a terrible lynch day 1. With his claim it lets parity cops check him as town would never fake claim SAM. I think mattchew is scum I will put together a case after dinner.


This guy is town.


y tho

Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#1063
##Vote: sn0_Man

Leans scum on palmar, says that he "could lynch him". Later backs down on this, and now in the QT says that he wants to sheep palmar's policy lynch on Mocsta and that even though he dislikes plynches, sheeping palmar's seems reasonable. A plynch that is agreed by the majority to be the correct play. I find it scummy that he would sheep his former scumread onto a policy lynch when he admits that he usually dislikes policylynches, and especially such a bad policy lynch..

On October 18 2013 14:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 14:06 Mocsta wrote:
On October 18 2013 11:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games

Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho.

Sn0, you are one of those players that a few are publicly finding difficult to read and/or scummy.

Can you please give me a run down on why Toad gets a hard town read.

Can you also please also choose 1 of (LA/ET/SS).

Thanks sir

Not "hard" townreads. More like, No interest in lynching, and i'm lending value to what they say simply because all of them have well thought out posts. I'm considering them town/pro-town until evidence comes up.


I dislike the phrase "until evidence comes up." It gives off a willingness to just sit back and wait for other people to scumhunt instead of showing an initiative to do it himself.

He is also totes sheeping onto Cephiro and hasn't given any reasoning at all as to why he thinks Cephiro is scum.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:16 GMT
#1065
On October 19 2013 00:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf Sno.

In the qt u wanted to policy lynch me based on palmar follow up.

I mentioned it because I'm not a huge fan of the other lynch options. Kinda decided against pushing for it because all my reasons would be "Well Palmar said so hope he's town this game".


You're not a huge fan of the other lynch options, but you will sheep onto Cephiro anyway.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:21 GMT
#1069
On October 19 2013 00:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Ur ignoring the part where i give my reasons for backing down on suspicions re: palmar.

And I discussed then rejected the "sheep palmar lynch mocsta" policy lynch. Whats your problem with that?

Sure I'm sheeping the cephiro lynch. Hows that scummy?


I didn't ignore that part, actually.

You didn't discuss it, you ignored it until Mocsta questioned you on it.

It is scummy because you have:
(A) Already stated twice that you dislike any of the current lynch options.
(B) Refuse to give any input of your own as to why Cephiro is scummy. Even previously you say "Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well". Also not offering any original insight.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:22 GMT
#1070
On October 19 2013 00:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 19 2013 00:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 19 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote:
Wtf Sno.

In the qt u wanted to policy lynch me based on palmar follow up.

I mentioned it because I'm not a huge fan of the other lynch options. Kinda decided against pushing for it because all my reasons would be "Well Palmar said so hope he's town this game".


You're not a huge fan of the other lynch options, but you will sheep onto Cephiro anyway.

I could also just not vote and get modkilled I'm sure thats a legit strategy...


Or you could, I dont know, look for scum? Make cases? Push your targets? Not contradict yourself by following the majority onto a lynch that you expressed dislike in?

Any of those would be great, you know.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:35 GMT
#1072
Palmar why is Onegu town for that post you fuck.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:47 GMT
#1080
On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
You didn't discuss it, you ignored it until Mocsta questioned you on it.

False. I tossed it out there in the QT for opinions. Then I went to the thread, thought about stuff, and posted a list of lynches that soudned reasonable. Leaving out mocsta since he's got 0 votes and nobody in teh QT was discussing it with me (very short period of time here). THEN mocsta cried in the thread about the QT without even discussing anything in the QT itself, that was a wtf for me. I didn't ignore it I left it in the QT for discussion which eventually happened.

You posted that you wanted to plynch Mocsta in the QT, then did not mention him at all thread. That is ignoring what you said in the QT. Obviously you posted about him in the QT initially, otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about him.

Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
It is scummy because you have:
(A) Already stated twice that you dislike any of the current lynch options.
(B) Refuse to give any input of your own as to why Cephiro is scummy. Even previously you say "Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well". Also not offering any original insight.

I never like lynch options day 1 because nobody's flipped.
So what happened to yamato? He's sheeping the same case with the same lack of reasons, why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason? There are also many far more egregious lurkers than me. You still lack any reasoning that makes me scum, you want to lynch me for laziness over your longstanding scumread yamato and over all the actual lurkers. What gives?


Classic "why me?" scum defense.

I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:47 GMT
#1081
Sigh post failed.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:50 GMT
#1083
On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
On October 19 2013 00:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Ur ignoring the part where i give my reasons for backing down on suspicions re: palmar.

And I discussed then rejected the "sheep palmar lynch mocsta" policy lynch. Whats your problem with that?

Sure I'm sheeping the cephiro lynch. Hows that scummy?


I didn't ignore that part, actually.

Yes you did otherwise why are you including it in your case rofl. If I say "well look this is a good counterargument to my and others suspicions of palmar" then hows it scummy for me to not think he's scum anymore? You can't just say "I didn't ignore it" and continute ignoring it.


I said that palmar was a *former* scum option of yours. I didn't say you are scummy for changing your mind about palmar, I just said that I find the willingness to sheep him scummy.

On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
You didn't discuss it, you ignored it until Mocsta questioned you on it.

False. I tossed it out there in the QT for opinions. Then I went to the thread, thought about stuff, and posted a list of lynches that soudned reasonable. Leaving out mocsta since he's got 0 votes and nobody in teh QT was discussing it with me (very short period of time here). THEN mocsta cried in the thread about the QT without even discussing anything in the QT itself, that was a wtf for me. I didn't ignore it I left it in the QT for discussion which eventually happened.


You posted that you wanted to plynch Mocsta in the QT, then did not mention him at all thread. That is ignoring what you said in the QT. Obviously you posted about him in the QT initially, otherwise we wouldn't even be talking about him.

On October 19 2013 00:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
It is scummy because you have:
(A) Already stated twice that you dislike any of the current lynch options.
(B) Refuse to give any input of your own as to why Cephiro is scummy. Even previously you say "Huh Cephiro looked like a good lynch too oh well". Also not offering any original insight.

I never like lynch options day 1 because nobody's flipped.
So what happened to yamato? He's sheeping the same case with the same lack of reasons, why'd you drop your longstanding tunnel on him for no reason? There are also many far more egregious lurkers than me. You still lack any reasoning that makes me scum, you want to lynch me for laziness over your longstanding scumread yamato and over all the actual lurkers. What gives?


Classic "why me?" scum defense.

I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby.
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 15:51 GMT
#1084
On October 19 2013 00:48 Mattchew wrote:
Skanj is strange


In what way? A way that makes you think I am scum? A way that makes you want to accost me in the alleyway later?

Oh MattChew!
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 16:47 GMT
#1103
"hey guys please dont vote for me, or vote for other lynch candidate, even though I have said that I dont think he is scum, also I dont feel like finding scum so can one of you do it pls? thxxxbbz" - Sn0_Man2013
Skanjab1s
Profile Joined June 2013
748 Posts
October 18 2013 17:10 GMT
#1129
On October 19 2013 01:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dear supersoft. Please say what you mean to say. I don't read minds and can't figure out what your posts are implying.

Dear Skanjab1s. Please stop tunnelling me for no reason. Also please stop misrepresenting me. I never said Cephiro isn't scum. If you can ever come up with anything scum motivated in my actions i'd love to hear it because so far all you can say is "well he hasn't caught scum yet". Which is incidentally true of every other player in the thread. I sure haven't caught scum, and I have no particular intention of doing so today. Mostly cuz I can't. Get back to me once you've done anything better.


I have come up with scum motivations and I have explained my reasoning. Saying that I haven't doesn't make it true. I am not tunneling you for no reason, I have given my reasons. You said that you don't like any of the lynch choices, but then voted Cephiro. I did not say "well he hasn't caught scum yet" and I am not accusing you of being scum just because you haven't found scum yet. I think that covers all the misreps you made on me this single post.
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