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On October 31 2013 18:28 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
What i am trying to say is. Think about yourself in BH's situation.
Whether or not you sent in the kill on N2 (you probably did as there was no-kill), you got roleblocked by Mocsta, who claimed the roleblock. Town knows you were roleblocked, would you risk sending in the kill again on N3 in case the roleblocker just "wants to be sure of you" -- after all he rb'd a claimed doctor on N2 already.
Fair point.
So shall i target BH or Grack with redirection tonight? Or shoudl the magic carpet be used whilst we know syllo is alive (and onegu doesnt have majority)
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On October 31 2013 18:30 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
what does redirection & magic carp do?
I can choose a target and have their night actions redirected
magic carpet swaps the actions of A to B
(I cant remember if B is the magic carpet user)
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OK.....I only checked host filter but hybwas BH delayed?
I used redirection on onegu, but the target is random.
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On November 01 2013 05:14 syllogism wrote:
I wonder if non-conseq medic was just a lucky guess on his part, since Sn0 was non-conseq as well
They may have had a fake claim that is non-conseq
Caught up on the real thread now (anyone else have TL Mafia missing from side bar???)
Anyways, its nice to know how BH was vigged.
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On November 01 2013 06:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Have you been reading?
I changed the action when we figured for sure BH is scum with Mocsta.
I assume you mean: you and I worked together to confirm BH as scum,
rather than, BH and I were a scum team.
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On November 01 2013 07:30 Skanjab1s wrote:
Also, why would there be 2 scum and a miller in Slytherin?
Sillybilly
This is beyond stupid, especially as at the start of the game, people were discussing scum randoming into houses BECAUSE of what *YOU* asked in our QT.
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On November 01 2013 07:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 07:34 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not trying to pass the blame on to you. It just annoys me how you say I'm underperforming considering how the game has gone from my perspective. The only thing i think you are underperforming for is that you have literall had Skanjabs as your top scumread with a good case on him from D2 and you havn't managed to convince the town to kill him. :D I agree town hasn't helped much in that, especially Cephiro and CR...
This doesn't make sense.
There is no false dilemma, one scum remains.
If Grack *is* scum; the case on Skanjab can not be good.
If Grack *is* town; the case on Skanjab *could* be good, but then he is just underperforming town.
There is no relevance to this Rayn.
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On November 01 2013 08:37 Skanjab1s wrote:
Yeah, its not me though, and holyflare wasn't really pushing the onegu lynch all that hard, he was more mildly stroking it.
I actually agree with this.
I only read HolyFlare filter once, but I got the impression it was distancing.
(I believe HF was attacking Onegu as early as Day 1)
This game is over based on town # + town invulnerability, it really boils down to a couple things
(1) Is scum trying to die with pride (i.e. secure as many mislynch as possible)
(2) Do people want to waste up to another 6 days of their life on this game?
Realistically,
RNG into:
Grack, Skanjab, and if that doesn't work JAT before Rayn (yes, JAT before Rayn) and the game should be over.
With the number advantage, town is guaranteed for that to occur.
Scum really should concede, but whatever. I will keep playing for another 24hrs of my life.
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Ohh. i forgot to add Onegu to that list.
Prob
Onegu, Skanjab, Grack, Jat, Rayn
##Vote: Onegu
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On November 01 2013 09:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 07:30 Skanjab1s wrote:
Also, why would there be 2 scum and a miller in Slytherin?
Sillybilly This is beyond stupid, especially as at the start of the game, people were discussing scum randoming into houses BECAUSE of what *YOU* asked in our QT.
It is dumb.
Its like saying, whats the probability of heads turning up after 5 heads in a row.
Its still 50/50 every single time.
Yes, the combination 1-1-1-3 may be more unlikely to roll than 2-2-1-1,
however, the permutations are all equivalent.
Fact is, 1-1-1-3 (+ SAM) is a possibility.
In the recently finished newbie; LoneMeow (cohost) said that the chance for that setup to roll was something liek 0.5%.
It still rolled.
Comment stands: "beyond stupid"
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I should add that I find a vet claim to be too simple for this game.
Either everyone is a squib; or other than the masons, the roles are quite complicated.
Further, with all the Heal Power that town possess; veteran seems unlikely.
Onegu should be lynched first.
Skanjab is fucking annoying I agree, but thats not a reason to lynch someone (first, at least).
+ Given the situation scum were in Day2; it still doesn't make sense to me that Skanjab would last minute vote onto Stutters the way he did. I find that to be extremely townie. Enough that I am willing to lynch Onegu before Skanjab.
Unfortunately nothing can be made of the magic carpet.
JAT + Skanjab were swapped & Syllo/Onegu were aware.
JAT was best priority shot for scum with the vig claim onto BH; so if Onegu was scum, they knew not to shoot JAT.
Its also possible my redirection on Onegu randomed the kill onto Hopeless1der.
Either way, no point discussing it further.
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On November 01 2013 09:46 Grackaroni wrote:
You think JAT is scum over Rayn? You realize he killed Blazinghand.... and Lonemeow.....
I dont think JAT is scum, but *if* we get to the point that
Onegu, Skanjab, Grack are not scum. We are dealing with a wildcard factor.
Hence, JAT is that wildcard. *I find it extremely unlikely essentially impossible* we are in this scenario though.
Just stating really.
Prob the only reason I would vote Skabjab >> Onegu today is based on the dickhead factor.
In the sense of, Out of those 3, Skanjab is the person I would assume to be least likely to concede given the current state of affairs.
Given this game has gone on for what, almost 3 weeks, I think all of us are keen for it to end.
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On November 01 2013 09:53 Grackaroni wrote:
Hopeless kill made sense. He had a cop check this cycle.
Did he? I thought he gave a potion to JAT that gave alignment back to Hopeless1der.
But JAT didnt use it
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On November 01 2013 09:58 Skanjab1s wrote:
Rofl, mocsta, you just have to insult me in every post you make dont you :D
You did not deny the statement either.
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Rayn/JAT are yellow as assumed town
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BI8pTKb.jpg)
I am not so certain Skanjab is scum.
Though the scum team did a good job of not voting together (and Skanjab fits that pattern)
His deviation just feels more "chaotic" in general i.e. I think he is maybe just a reckless town; probably even a bored VT.
+ There is that vote switch on Day 2.
On October 24 2013 23:15 Cephiro wrote:
I secret voted Stutters because I thought the lynch was between two townies and Stutters had been of no use.
On October 22 2013 04:58 You-Know-Who wrote:VOTE COUNT DAY 2: Blazinghand (1) : StorrZerg, raynpelikonoshi, Mocsta, Grackaroni, Holyflare, syllogism, OneguMattchew (0) : Mocsta, Onegu, raynpelikonoshiCephiro (2) : Mocsta, Sn0_Man, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der, Stutters695Mocsta (0) : syllogism, Hopeless1der, BlazinghandGrackaroni (1) : VayneAuthorityHolyflare (0) : Hopeless1der, syllogismHopeless1der (1) : Mattchew, Cephiro, Mattchew, StorrZergChairman Ray (6) : syllogism, Onegu, Sn0_Man, Grackaroni, Skanjab1s, justanothertownie, Stutters695 Stutters695 (7) : Sn0_Man, Blazinghand, raynpelikonoshi, ChairmanRay, StorrZerg, Cephiro, Sn0_Man, Secret Vote (Secret Vote was from Cephiro) He was already on the town chair wagon, with a town stutters counter-wagon. I just can't see scum motivation for hopping wagons.
I do think this clears Skanjab. The play is just overall too reckless; and post-night 1 massacre, scum were still playing controlled, as evident by their votes above.
As for Onegu, I can't get over ET calling him out, and then going back for seconds. HF tried to sell this as ET making comment on Onegu at an odd time; thus, distancing himself -- but I don't interpret the thread developing like that.
Onegu posted he was reading the thread and ET responded with "....' and then followed up a case. My take is that he sniffed lynch-bait.
This leaves us with Grack.
Not single member of the scum team has voted for Grack.
This includes Holy's flurry of votes before he was lynched.
Besides the weird assertion of forcefully calling him town, I am willing to lynch Grack --> Onegu --> Skanjab
##Unvote
##Vote: Grack
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On November 01 2013 13:40 Skanjab1s wrote:
What about the house check on Hufflepuff that said there was only 1 scum in it, Mocsta?
Ohh yeah I forgot about that.
Then back to onegu. Vet role seems out of place in this game.
Would help if you claimed though. I really don't get why you wont
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meh mehn, I'm just on cruise control JAT
##unvote
##vote: skanjab
agree with syllo. he is unnecessarily hostile.
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On November 02 2013 06:32 syllogism wrote:
It is very important that we coordinate and you do not attempt to confuse mafia or anything. Randomizing Grack's actions is best from my perspective.
Ok
Was ska n vt?
If so Grack makes that balanced.
I still think onegu power is out of place with the game and wanted to random him.
Let me know if you still prefer grack
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Grackeroni has been randomly redirected
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After seeing Onegu flip scum in ##
I come back to my conclusion before. His filter is scummy and matches his town meta.
So yeah, between Grack/Rayn; I much prefer Grack.
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