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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 15:32 GMT
#541
@E00e how do you not have any other reads than that. You have tunnel visioned so hard on nyx it's not even funny. What about july, ggtemplar, sagaz... come on now...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 15:36 GMT
#542
and wtf man... get off my back... this is the second time you've voted directly after me directly like me with very little other information.

I only wanted to use my vote as a pressure vote and you trying to start a train like this makes it hard.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 18 2013 15:39 GMT
#543
I'm pretty suspicious of SagaZ at this point. He very well have been busy, but coming back to make one impassioned post doesn't clear him in my eyes. I'm interested to see if he's able to participate in any of the conversations going on around lynching time. That's generally where a lot of useful information comes out. Although it seems we are going pretty much all in on nyx at this point. Which, I don't have an issue voting for nyx (I think he's kind of scummy), but I don't want to start the bandwagon too early when new information may come to light. And of course I disagree with SagaZ's analysis of me. I find it so weird he can say all my posts have been useless when Seuss is claiming they are pretty good, just not a lot of them. I find it interesting they can have such different opinions on my posts.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 18 2013 15:42 GMT
#544
what do you guys think of the fact that mafia decided to risk not blocking E00e when there's a decent chance he could be cop vs myself who has given any indication of a blue role?
istandwithmitt
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil117 Posts
October 18 2013 15:48 GMT
#545
@Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree.

##unvote
##vote: Bereft
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 15:50 GMT
#546
That is a bit suspicious that E00e was not roleblocked, could mean he's part of the scum team. Or it could just mean the scum team read you as something more dangerous than a possible cop (and it depends on how much they agreed with playerboy's "soft-claim" claim). The other possibility is scum purposefully roleblocked someone else to put suspicion on E00e because of that. Seems pretty deep though. There are even some more possibilities but not really even ones I want to dive into.

The odd thing is which I think they didn't think about was that roleblocking you would confirm you. Why confirm a strong townie over a weaker one like OWB? It's clear they thought you were a blue.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 15:51 GMT
#547
On October 19 2013 00:48 istandwithmitt wrote:
@Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree.

##unvote
##vote: Bereft


It was explained earlier. Vanillas can get roleblocked and will be informed if they are. As such, it's perfectly normal (according to my coach) for people to immediately post that they've been roleblocked, as it doesn't actually roleclaim and gives the town important information.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 18 2013 15:53 GMT
#548
@onlywonderboy:
I accused you of not saying anything constructive, and being the yes man of seuss to appeal to him.
this last post you give us: You're suspicious of me, the only one that makes a case about you. you hope to get info, nice. you jump on the nyx train. and you go back to seuss said that so he has to be right.
At this point I can't understand how you do it to slip under the radar so well, but maybe this will get some concrete posts from you:
##Vote onlywonderboy
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 15:54 GMT
#549
On October 19 2013 00:48 istandwithmitt wrote:
@Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree.

##unvote
##vote: Bereft


Just to clarify: if you are roleblocked you get a PM saying "You have been roleblocked" regardless of whether or not you have a role or how many people roleblocked you. For all we know he was roleblocked multiple times and a townie is not calling it. It's for this reason if you are RB'ed you should claim it, because it can possibly clear two townies.

It's only a slip if he is scum. He already explained his gut reaction that explains it. After that it's up to you to decide whether it was a scum slip or genuinely a gut reaction. I think it was a gut reaction for sure.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 18 2013 15:55 GMT
#550
@Balla I just put my vote on the person im most certain and your post reminded me of voting. I dont think its a bandwagon if you have this much time left to change the votes.
On the first day I actually voted on Nyx before you (being the second person after Vonthin) and you then said you agreed with me. Isnt it strange you would get that wrong?
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 18 2013 15:56 GMT
#551
On October 19 2013 00:51 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:48 istandwithmitt wrote:
@Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree.

##unvote
##vote: Bereft


It was explained earlier. Vanillas can get roleblocked and will be informed if they are. As such, it's perfectly normal (according to my coach) for people to immediately post that they've been roleblocked, as it doesn't actually roleclaim and gives the town important information.


Please don't discuss what you talk about with your coach/what your coach has said until after game. Not that big a deal because you're the IC, but it's better to keep the two things separate.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 15:57 GMT
#552
On October 19 2013 00:55 E00e wrote:
@Balla I just put my vote on the person im most certain and your post reminded me of voting. I dont think its a bandwagon if you have this much time left to change the votes.
On the first day I actually voted on Nyx before you (being the second person after Vonthin) and you then said you agreed with me. Isnt it strange you would get that wrong?


Ah you're right after I go back again lol. I went back and saw my big post and assumed I had voted then. My bad T_T
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 18 2013 15:59 GMT
#553
I don't find any way that this could have been a roleblock. He is the first one posting on day 2 and says he got roleblocked, if that was a fake one he would be betting that there is no roleblock or that no one else got roleblocked. think of how akward this starts to look if day 2 starts, he says he got RB'd and someone else comes right after him saying "hey me too!"
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 18 2013 15:59 GMT
#554
bleh, I meant "i don't find any way this could have been a FAKE roleblock"
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 18 2013 16:12 GMT
#555
On October 19 2013 00:56 Umasi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 00:51 Seuss wrote:
On October 19 2013 00:48 istandwithmitt wrote:
@Balla: there's no reason to blindly believe a roleblock claim. It's weird that he would claim in the first place (do vanillas get roleblocked??). I think his slipping wrt claim is the scummiest thing to happen in the game so far & I don't get it if you guys don't agree.

##unvote
##vote: Bereft


It was explained earlier. Vanillas can get roleblocked and will be informed if they are. As such, it's perfectly normal (according to my coach) for people to immediately post that they've been roleblocked, as it doesn't actually roleclaim and gives the town important information.


Please don't discuss what you talk about with your coach/what your coach has said until after game. Not that big a deal because you're the IC, but it's better to keep the two things separate.


I think daddy just grounded me.

(It won't happen again).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 18 2013 16:16 GMT
#556
On October 19 2013 00:53 SagaZ wrote:
@onlywonderboy:
I accused you of not saying anything constructive, and being the yes man of seuss to appeal to him.
this last post you give us: You're suspicious of me, the only one that makes a case about you. you hope to get info, nice. you jump on the nyx train. and you go back to seuss said that so he has to be right.
At this point I can't understand how you do it to slip under the radar so well, but maybe this will get some concrete posts from you:
##Vote onlywonderboy

This post actually makes me believe SagaZ is town. He's right, I've been been way too quiet and have been coasting for most of this game. I've been quick to follow Seuss because he's town and I know he's an incredibly analytic thinker, but that's way too passive play and doesn't really do much to help the town. I tried to get some discussion going with differentiating the mafia/SK kill, but that broke down quick and it turned out I was likely wrong. Honestly I'm as surprised as him I'm flown under the radar and really that's just bad play on my part. I'm still working on rereading the pages to try and get more scum tells, but I can at least put forth I think SagaZ is town based off this post.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 18 2013 16:16 GMT
#557
On day 1 Balla defended my posts and put suspicion on playerboy and nyx. Then on day two after seeing that playerboy was a cop Balla immediately changes their opinion on my day 1 post and is aggressive towards me.
Could it be that Balla every day tried to find a weak town lynch target being Mafia themself? Disagreeing with playerboy was easy because he appeared to be flaming and voting for nyx did not require much justification either.
Now on day2 it looks like nyx is going to get killed anyway so you switch to the next weakest player (thinking they cant defend themself) me. After seeing that I actually try to defend myself contrary to nyx you switch again.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 18 2013 16:22 GMT
#558
I am just frustrated with you because you are so comfortable to see someone get lynched without properly defending yourself to others. You have defended yourself to me several times now, and yes it has made me see you more as town. Doesn't make me more frustrated about your town play.
E00e
Profile Joined January 2011
88 Posts
October 18 2013 16:22 GMT
#559
@onlywonderboy
When I read your posts it does look like you agree a lot with other people and dont bring much of your own. Seuss might have thought better of your posts because in general we like to think positive of people who have the same opinion as our self.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
October 18 2013 16:27 GMT
#560
#Vote: E00e
cool beans
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