EPTOn October 04 2013 23:22 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't think it Risen. Not one bit
I don't think it Risen. Not one bit
What makes you feel so strongly, boss?
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
What makes you feel so strongly, boss? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 04 2013 23:20 Clarity_nl wrote: he was absent. Oats you keep doing this thing where you just come into the thread and parrot whatever is being said at the time =/ And? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Nothing, really. That was the end of my thought process. | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
On October 04 2013 23:24 marvellosity wrote: What makes you feel so strongly, boss? It's sloosh therefor it can't be Risen. Quite simple. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 04 2013 23:35 Dirkzor wrote: It's sloosh therefor it can't be Risen. Quite simple. That wasn't quite what I was looking for, although I admire your certainty regardless. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 04 2013 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: Nothing, really. That was the end of my thought process. Hey you wanna speculate how Marv could be scum? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 04 2013 23:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey you wanna speculate how Marv could be scum? Sure. You go first. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Dirk - Came in swinging to the wrong tune, very quickly changed his tune, and for me has blended right into the game (null). Oats - this guy is crazy. Absolutely nuts and making it impossible to read him. If his meta is this as town then I imagine as scum he gets called out immediately so why WOULDN'T he play like this? I'm immune to the bullshit thinking of "too crazy to be scum". He's not null, he's scummy to me, but he's not the scummiest. marv - I never think I'll see the day where I feel marv will be playing against town as town. Of these three I want marv lynched the most. Of all the people I have played mafia with marv is the person I have come to view as the best, and the person I respect the most (I think there's a reason he was chosen as a representative). When he cracked down on me earlier I stepped away from the game (I was busy anyways, but usually I'm on my phone posting) because I thought this guy is an amazing player and he thinks I need to be better. So I thought I would read filters and post a case as soon as I was able (yesterday I was out all day barring a very small window for lunch). I woke up and read filters. I did not like rayn immediately. I went into the filters expecting to continue my case on Clarity, but I remembered how rayn played in GoT. I really hated how rayn seemed sleazy to me just like he seemed sleazy in GoT with me in PM chat, but I didn't want to say that because that's meta (unverifiable meta), I want my cases to stand on their own. So I go through his filter and make my case. Then that case gets shouted down for being too long and impossible to read. Looking back at that now, I see the problem and my cases going forward will not be like that, they will be concise and to the point. I really think my case would have been considered much more if I had posted the last summary alone. Now, for why I think marv i sscum As scum or town I think marv plays an amazing game, but I also think as scum he is prone to do more crazy things than as town. Maybe that's because I hydra'd with him. I thought marv was town because he was helping me without doing the bullshit this is totally town Risen, so by proxy he was helping town. In my mind you lynch the people who are playing anti-town, and that's it. Day 1 that's usually the person posting largely filler and sheeping and making town reads to buddy people. At the end of the day town will do their best to play for town, and scum will do their best to blend with town or they will do something that will make people think "scum couldn't do this". I do not believe that the town marv I know would try to hobble town that hard. I believe he dislikes BH a lot. I don't think he's lying there, and that's what makes for the best "holy shit I can't believe he did that as scum" plays. I said this in Noir, and I'll say it here. Town players do not make big plays like that. It's an ongoing game so I can't comment fully, but there was one thing I was pretty adamant about in that game that people did not follow. I don't think marv would do this to us as town. Lynch the person who played anti-town and then admitted he played anti-town. Tomorrow I will be voting to lynch marv. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 05 2013 00:01 Risen wrote: As scum or town I think marv plays an amazing game, but I also think as scum he is prone to do more crazy things than as town. This is literally completely untrue. I am in general very conservative as mafia. | ||
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marvellosity
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On October 04 2013 20:06 marvellosity wrote: like, policy me all you like, but there's no chance i'm mafia. This is my biggest problem with marv. It isn't a policy lynch, it's a lynch on someone who openly played anti-town. Trying to marginalize the lynch as policy lynch is scummy as hell. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
There is 0% chance I make that play as mafia. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I would never make that play as mafia. A casual analysis of all of my mafia games would confirm that. The biggest plays I ever make as mafia is fake-claiming a role at an appropriate time. I simply don't make crazy plays as mafia. If I have a majority on a townie and I'm already looking really good I don't throw it all away like that. I simply don't play that way. Check my games. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Ever. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 05 2013 00:07 Risen wrote: No, it isn't. Stop calling your anti-town play lynch a policy lynch. A policy lynch is lynch all liars, or lynch all lurkers, or RNG lynch d1. This is not a policy lynch. You can shout it all you want to, but this reads to me as marv shouting it over and over in the hopes that people will think I'm crazy and won't think about you Yeah... the thing I suggested was 100% a policy lynch. marv did something that is bad for town and something he should never do as town. That doesn't mean he didn't do it as town. Explain why his push on bh from a scum perspective. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
It's paranoid, sure, but the paranoia is based in reality. And I'm not wrong in the other game. Look at what that person is doing. That's not town play. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 05 2013 00:15 Risen wrote: And that's the perfect time to throw a wrench in the works. Rayn was looking scummy as shit and you vote me over him? I don't think so. BH pressured rayn and gets a giant "emotional" push on him coming from you? I don't buy it. How convenient that the other person who makes a case on rayn is suddenly your next lynch target after sloosh. I think without the BH doctor claim you would have kept pressing until BH was lynched no problem. Then when BH flipped town you would say something like "well serves him right for his play" and then what? We're left nowhere after day 1 because no one will listen to me and BH is dead. It's paranoid, sure, but the paranoia is based in reality. And I'm not wrong in the other game. Look at what that person is doing. That's not town play. Over the line. No more talking about other games. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I was literally the towniest guy in the game by some margin. I had a majority on a townie. "Throwing a wrench in the works" would mean throwing that away, it's senseless. Use your brain. I don't play crazy as mafia. You said yourself "i think he makes crazier plays as mafia than town". That is simply WRONG. | ||
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