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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:08 GMT
#628
Holy, why is what i posted up there wrong? I need you just to clear it up for me.

You seemed to think his unvote post at the time was bad, later you thought it was ok? is that not the case or what?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:09 GMT
#630
What's meta got to do with it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:20 GMT
#634
On October 04 2013 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 00:08 marvellosity wrote:
Holy, why is what i posted up there wrong? I need you just to clear it up for me.

You seemed to think his unvote post at the time was bad, later you thought it was ok? is that not the case or what?


Where did I say his unvote was bad, I've checked my filter but can't really see it. Either way, upon rereading ouats I saw things like

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 02 2013 22:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I read/detunneled.

On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why am I scummy clarity?


Contradiction.

What?

Marv, I liked his posts after I left, and thought from the perspective of not a cynical old fart and thought that HF is probably town. However, if he doesnt convince people to vote for me or convince dudes to vote for someone else, then
THE PRESSURE IS ON BABY!


and was like - oh, he's actually willing to pay attention now, and he was right about the pressuring people etc.


Does this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430498&currentpage=15#297 - not suggest you thought his unvote was bad? What am I missing?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:26 GMT
#642
On October 04 2013 00:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 00:08 marvellosity wrote:
Holy, why is what i posted up there wrong? I need you just to clear it up for me.

You seemed to think his unvote post at the time was bad, later you thought it was ok? is that not the case or what?


Where did I say his unvote was bad, I've checked my filter but can't really see it. Either way, upon rereading ouats I saw things like

On October 02 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 02 2013 22:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
I read/detunneled.

On October 02 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why am I scummy clarity?


Contradiction.

What?

Marv, I liked his posts after I left, and thought from the perspective of not a cynical old fart and thought that HF is probably town. However, if he doesnt convince people to vote for me or convince dudes to vote for someone else, then
THE PRESSURE IS ON BABY!


and was like - oh, he's actually willing to pay attention now, and he was right about the pressuring people etc.


Does this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430498&currentpage=15#297 - not suggest you thought his unvote was bad? What am I missing?


I only ask why sloosh liked his reasoning?


I think you're being kinda obtuse because it's obvious what part of the post I'm referring to.

"I don't like this one bit, especially coupled with *unvote post*"

As in you said "I don't like this" and followed that with his unvote post. I don't know why this is so hard
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:28 GMT
#646
Right, so the thing you didn't like was the random sheep on to Dirkzor, ya?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:29 GMT
#650
On October 04 2013 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 00:28 marvellosity wrote:
Right, so the thing you didn't like was the random sheep on to Dirkzor, ya?


yes, especially as he pointed out clarity for sheeping


Alright bingo! Can you see why I was having difficulties? lol. That makes sense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:30 GMT
#651
Alright. I think HF is a dopey lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:33 GMT
#655
rayn, I think whatever you've found, you haven't found.

The reason I was struggling so much with HF is that I generally found him reasonably townie, but I thought what you pointed out had merit. All his explanations make sense to me now though and he's stuck around and defended himself and pushed his ideas.

Added to this, the fact that in some ways he didn't "get" the suspicions to me is a bit of a towntell.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:50 GMT
#668
I don't think rayn is a good lynch today. While I don't like his absence for the first part of the day, or the way he kinda floated around the thread while he was here, his push on Holyflare feels like a town-rayn thing.

I don't know how to explain that very well, but basically he hammered away at Holyflare continuously before he came to his conclusion. I rather feel that if he were mafia, he'd have jumped to the conclusion much quicker without all the questioning.

I'm not totally sure by all of this, but i think it's enough that i don't want to touch rayn today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:55 GMT
#674
On October 04 2013 00:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
I like this marv guy, he can stay.


You gonna stop being peripheral, babe?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 15:56 GMT
#675
On October 04 2013 00:54 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
I don't think rayn is a good lynch today. While I don't like his absence for the first part of the day, or the way he kinda floated around the thread while he was here, his push on Holyflare feels like a town-rayn thing.

I don't know how to explain that very well, but basically he hammered away at Holyflare continuously before he came to his conclusion. I rather feel that if he were mafia, he'd have jumped to the conclusion much quicker without all the questioning.

I'm not totally sure by all of this, but i think it's enough that i don't want to touch rayn today.

If not him then who? and why? (I know where your vote is, but answer anyway)


..............

I agree with HF's "clairvoyance" type point.
Also dislike how he's gone about Risen.
Also dislike how his Clarity vote materialised.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:02 GMT
#677
I'm suspicious of Risen for totally opting out of participating in the thread when I left the door completely open to talk about things. I hate that.

Dirk I'm kinda la-la-la-ing and hoping he's town for now. At least partly because I think slOosh is a good lynch, so I don't have to worry about Dirk so much right now.

Clarity's kinda useless and kinda useful, but he thinks the same as me at like ten different points, so I'm gonna guess town.

rayn/BH I really dunno but I don't wanna lynch them

HF stood his ground, lots of effort, seems townie.

Oats seems townie after I grilled him, not sure about this but I think so.

marv is a total babe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:03 GMT
#679
On October 04 2013 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you comment on what i said about Dirk?
Clarity/marv/BH?

Show nested quote +
When Dirkzor contributes, his contributions are bad. He gets called out of them, and he needs to be "helped" in which direction to look for in what he is saying. Basically he has been given the "correct answers" for the questions he has been asked, and only after that he says something that pleases people. His "own, genuine contributions" are full of shit, and that's why i think he is scum.


Thing is, I checked out his last couple mafia games earlier? maybe yesterday? and he seemed really aggressive and forthright in both of them.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:07 GMT
#681
I played in Dirk's last towngame.

I don't really know what to tell you; given I was the one who fucking nailed Dirk to the wall for what he did, then yeah, whatever. I can't describe my doubts very elegantly, I just feel much more confident in a slOosh lynch right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:11 GMT
#685
My mafia memory in general is pretty phenomenal.

I find your play very hard to get a handle on this game, because it's been totally warped by the original Holyflare thing. Which skews perceptions - I can't tell if you're mafia talking your way out of a hole, or town who made a silly mistake.

Reminds me of Dwarf Fortress mafia where town pursued forumite like a hound all day for a mistake he made at the start, and he flipped town.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:18 GMT
#691
On October 04 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 01:16 Blazinghand wrote:
I guess I'm happier with this new more active Rayn and would be okay letting him live for a day since we need to get together into a majority in the next ~8 hours or we no-lynch. I can't really justify lynching him, even if he's pretty damn scummy, over Oats when I'll be able to get a more solid read on Rayn over time (if he's scum he'll screw up). Then again, Oats doesn't seem to be happening either. fack.


Could you condense your read on oats for us? Rather than going "welp my lynch aint happening, bummer"


Agreed with this. If you're really convinced Oats is the best lynch, then argue coherently for it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:25 GMT
#695
On October 04 2013 01:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Man, I kinda like this sloosh lynch. I do see what's being said about him changing his mind between here (link) and here (link) and why that's a bit suspicious. I will say that there are a couple mitigating factors. 1, he initially was reacting to a case and said it wasn't too compelling. Risen's case didn't directly address the point that sloosh brought up later, so it's possible sloosh was a lazy ass and didn't actually read clarity's filter. 2, there's an in-between post that actually imo makes this ok:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 11:10 slOosh wrote:
Ohh BH, thoughts on clarity?


it looks to be like slOosh may have been changing his mind on clarity then, at 11 (at 10, he was null or town on clarity. at 12 he voted clarity). Perhaps he was rereading the filter, and the thing popped out at him, so he popped into the thread to ask me a question. I find this a reasonable explanation of sloosh's actions.


It is a reasonable explanation, I agree - but it's also weak if that's the case. I don't really associate slOosh with weak play.

I've kinda always been a slOosh fanboy though, because his style is generally the opposite of mine
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:33 GMT
#707
I'm super-curious how BH is gonna justify the Risen lynch when he defended the slOosh lynch on meta.

Best include Risen's recent town meta too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:37 GMT
#711
yeah he did that in Noir, BH

what of it?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 03 2013 16:37 GMT
#714
Further, why aren't you using meta in your case on someone, when you keep defending people with meta?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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