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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#902
On October 04 2013 06:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
The thing about BH is that he calls slOosh suspicious earlier in the day, and then with literally nothing from slOosh in between, now declares him town and he won't vote for him.

It's smelly.


he was suspicious until i read his meta. did you actually read where I called sloosh town bro


Asked you like twice about the rest of his posts though. The main reason me (and marv?) are on him is because of his seemingly clairvoyant posts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:18 GMT
#1091
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#1096
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#1099
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Everyone that we've spent 2 days talking about? -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:21 GMT
#1101
On October 04 2013 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.


say marv is mafia, then who would be your second most reasonable guess as to who is the second one?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:22 GMT
#1104
On October 04 2013 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Like everyone. Are you mafia Clarity?


He was being vague I wanted him to specify >.<


The guy I have my vote on..... or rayn would probably be my second choice, not sure about dirk anymore either, the people that I want to lynch all fell off the radar -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1119
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#1121
I don't think scum risen - when there are only 2 scum - would make such god awful cases and then just afk etc. Not that I know how he plays, it just doesn't strike me as something someone scummy would do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#1138
by the way

On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen


Why would you ever be ok with dying if you were town? How has anyone not mentioned this. BH talks about marv going against the 'wincon' but when sloosh just posts something like that how can we ignore it? If you are town you fight to the very last minute to prevent yourself dying. You KNOW you are town, everyone else should therefore be dumb and wrong. Go out of your way to prove it. Don't just accept your fate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#1144
Still don't understand why you wouldn't wait any longer, or wait for traction before claiming. Doesn't make sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:41 GMT
#1150
Totally reconsidering sloosh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#1158
I mean tactically. Yeh marv is pushing you, but at least wait for more evidence. Maybe the mafia would slip up and you'd get more votes on you, who knows?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:44 GMT
#1168
On October 04 2013 08:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Risen


like, what a backtrack. WHAT a BACKTRACK.


It's not helping, you won't get traction on your vote. We'll see what happens later and then judge the whole scenario. If marv didn't pull all this crap let's backtrack. What was your sentiment before?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:45 GMT
#1170
Nevermind you answered it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:48 GMT
#1182
I'm not comfortable with Risen, but I do not want a no-lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:51 GMT
#1197
Rayn is somebody I can get behind.

##Unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#1209
Risen at least tried to make cases despite play by plays and confirmation bias. Rayn made a list and then proceeded to casue 8 pages of accusations on me. At least think of analysis in your decisions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#1211
He also buried any analytical posts people were making because of those 8 pages.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:54 GMT
#1215
FML
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:55 GMT
#1220
Confirmed town is on a rayn lynch, people should follow confirmed town.
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