• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:50
CET 09:50
KST 17:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 Power Rank: epic29 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Bot on ladder Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread R I P Patrick Stewart
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10743 users

World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#902
On October 04 2013 06:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote:
The thing about BH is that he calls slOosh suspicious earlier in the day, and then with literally nothing from slOosh in between, now declares him town and he won't vote for him.

It's smelly.


he was suspicious until i read his meta. did you actually read where I called sloosh town bro


Asked you like twice about the rest of his posts though. The main reason me (and marv?) are on him is because of his seemingly clairvoyant posts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:18 GMT
#1091
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#1096
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#1099
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Everyone that we've spent 2 days talking about? -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:21 GMT
#1101
On October 04 2013 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.


say marv is mafia, then who would be your second most reasonable guess as to who is the second one?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:22 GMT
#1104
On October 04 2013 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 marvellosity wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


Like who?


Like everyone. Are you mafia Clarity?


He was being vague I wanted him to specify >.<


The guy I have my vote on..... or rayn would probably be my second choice, not sure about dirk anymore either, the people that I want to lynch all fell off the radar -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1119
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:30 GMT
#1121
I don't think scum risen - when there are only 2 scum - would make such god awful cases and then just afk etc. Not that I know how he plays, it just doesn't strike me as something someone scummy would do.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:37 GMT
#1138
by the way

On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen


Why would you ever be ok with dying if you were town? How has anyone not mentioned this. BH talks about marv going against the 'wincon' but when sloosh just posts something like that how can we ignore it? If you are town you fight to the very last minute to prevent yourself dying. You KNOW you are town, everyone else should therefore be dumb and wrong. Go out of your way to prove it. Don't just accept your fate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#1144
Still don't understand why you wouldn't wait any longer, or wait for traction before claiming. Doesn't make sense.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:41 GMT
#1150
Totally reconsidering sloosh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#1158
I mean tactically. Yeh marv is pushing you, but at least wait for more evidence. Maybe the mafia would slip up and you'd get more votes on you, who knows?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:44 GMT
#1168
On October 04 2013 08:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:41 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Risen


like, what a backtrack. WHAT a BACKTRACK.


It's not helping, you won't get traction on your vote. We'll see what happens later and then judge the whole scenario. If marv didn't pull all this crap let's backtrack. What was your sentiment before?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:45 GMT
#1170
Nevermind you answered it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:48 GMT
#1182
I'm not comfortable with Risen, but I do not want a no-lynch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:51 GMT
#1197
Rayn is somebody I can get behind.

##Unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#1209
Risen at least tried to make cases despite play by plays and confirmation bias. Rayn made a list and then proceeded to casue 8 pages of accusations on me. At least think of analysis in your decisions.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:53 GMT
#1211
He also buried any analytical posts people were making because of those 8 pages.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:54 GMT
#1215
FML
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 03 2013 23:55 GMT
#1220
Confirmed town is on a rayn lynch, people should follow confirmed town.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2912
Horang2 808
Bisu 529
scan(afreeca) 245
Larva 211
Killer 178
Soma 93
ToSsGirL 65
Free 43
NaDa 28
[ Show more ]
sOs 24
ZergMaN 23
yabsab 19
Noble 12
Dota 2
PGG 310
NeuroSwarm170
Fuzer 6
League of Legends
JimRising 498
Other Games
summit1g12718
Happy253
C9.Mang0212
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL16575
Other Games
gamesdonequick522
ComeBackTV 227
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2276
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1h 10m
WardiTV Invitational
3h 10m
Epic.LAN
4h 10m
IPSL
7h 10m
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
8h 10m
OSC
1d 5h
Yamato Cup
1d 6h
IPSL
1d 8h
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
1d 14h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Ultimate Battle
2 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
2 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.