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slOosh
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slOosh
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And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting. But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that. Umm ... Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them. Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity. Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game. Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame. Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks. This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity. If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him. I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky. Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me. Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip. ##Unvote: Blazinghand ##Vote: Risen | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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Yes normally I would be kicking and screaming. But this game is my first game after maybe a season's hiatus, and I'm aware I haven't had good play. So not too much in lieu of confidence or whatnot. I'm not going to make stuff up just to save my hide. That will clutter and confuse the thread. I think I gave my best (given what I could give), and I'm content with that. If people have issue and want to bring it up later, that's fine too. | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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##Vote: Rayn Ehh ... I hope you are seeing something that I can't. | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 08:56 Holyflare wrote: That you are probably town, that's what we're most likely seeing? ? I'm referring to BH's rayn read. I don't follow his logic, but I don't doubt his intentions. | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 09:37 marvellosity wrote: so we think Risen preferred a slOosh lynch over lynching his main scumread rayn here? he moved off his main scumread temporarily to put his vote on slOosh just to get a majority? No I think Risen was simply trying to consolidate to avoid no lynch. | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 09:34 marvellosity wrote: holyflare has to be town, don't think rayn makes that case on a scumbuddy How about Dirkzor? | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 13:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn busses like fuck though, probably only second to like kush or Vivax who shoots his own teammate. How bad does he bus? B/c Holyflare wasn't under pressure / wasn't going to be a liability or anything. Dirk, maybe after his stumbling start perhaps ... In any case, we can look at these people without rayn. Oats thoughts on holyflare / risen / dirk / marv? | ||
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slOosh
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On October 04 2013 19:56 marvellosity wrote: It is pretty undeniable that rayn's attitude towards slOosh makes slOosh look pretty bad, imo. slOosh was 2nd scummiest for rayn after rayn went off Holy, and yet he basically outright refused to vote him. Explain. | ||
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slOosh
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Do we agree with a slOosh - marv - dirk lynch order? I'm ok with that if I can guarantee the 1 for 1 with marv, which will be the trickest part. | ||
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slOosh
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Rayn built his main case on dirk and dirk pointed out rayn pretty early in the game (~pg 20). Oats is gut feels, and my town read on him remarkably stronger than my read on marv. | ||
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slOosh
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slOosh
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(http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430498¤tpage=67#1337) The quote itself provides the explanation. Getting a larger "sample size" and "resilience to prodding" are my reasons. I was contemplating a clarity BH team at the time, given how I felt the clarity slOosh-townread with BH interaction felt like something out of BH's playbook (preemptively call yourself scummy to diffuse the situation), combined with clarity explaning BH's actions to rayn rather than letting the interaction happen / pursuing a better read on BH. Yes, I followed marv's posts on BH because they made sense. I did not understand BH's town read on me, so my thinking was that BH was letting me get lynched, but still wanted town-cred for being right and thinking I was town. I still think barring the doctor claim, I would have kept with it. During the 40 minutes BH claimed doctor. Of course that's going to shake things up. I will concede the point that I was not thorough with treatment of Dirk. I was rushed at the time / I skimmed / dismissed him as misguided townie. rayn and BH were people who I perceived as not caring about the lynch too much, despite having town reads on me. I was surprised at the flip. I still don't understand how it happened. I didn't follow up on rayn because there were other things happening that I was looking at. The quote to clarity is in the context of marv saying that he doesn't like Risen or Dirk, likes me (objectively as a player), but is content with letting me die instead of giving me another day to prove my worth. As for rayn's hesitation of lynching me, there's nothing for me to argue against, either as town or scum. I'll be back later to properly sew up some things. I'm realizing how sloppy / not good my play is. | ||
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