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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 04:52 GMT
#173
1) oats scum
2) risen scummy
also 2) FT scummy

that being said, take all that with a grain of salt. most players haven't posted.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 04:53 GMT
#174
er, holyflare, not FT.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 04:54 GMT
#176
On October 02 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why do you think Holyflare might be town BH?

YES THIS IS WAHT IM TALKING ABOUT

So, I think there's a legitimate non-zero chance that he played the newb card because he is simply a newbie. It happens. The fact that he flailed around ineffectually at Risen and that when asked to analyzed Risen, he reached, are the two big things imo that contribute to my scummish read on HF. I think he might be town because the scummy evidence against him isn't strong enough to convince me he's scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 04:55 GMT
#177
On October 02 2013 13:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why do you think Holyflare might be town BH?

Let me rephrase this so we dont have any misunderstandings.

Are there any reasons for you to think that Holyflare might be town?


Well, he's literally a newb. Although his attempt to interact with me and get a read on risen was pretty bad and scummy, he did at least try.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 04:56 GMT
#179
Really i currently for example have no reason whatsoever to believe, say, Sloosh is town, since he hasn't really posted, but that doesn't mean I'll vote him. in my opinion there needs to be a certain critical mass of evidence before i'm willing to cast a vote, even a pressure vote.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 05:25 GMT
#191
i am here but a bit tied up

and yeah we're not lynching HF today, his new interactions are good
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 05:41 GMT
#193
I will strike him down with great vengeance!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:09 GMT
#195
Yeah basically I'm mad at him so we should lynch him. Then he won't make me mad in future games cause I can basically lynch players on a whim due to my great influence. This is actually an okay reason imo because it will make him play good and not like oats.

Also RNG.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:10 GMT
#197
Seriously though if the reason I've given for lynching him are normal oats behavior then that's like a policy lynch reason right there. We should do it, it would be awesome.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:20 GMT
#199
On October 02 2013 15:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 15:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Seriously though if the reason I've given for lynching him are normal oats behavior then that's like a policy lynch reason right there. We should do it, it would be awesome.


I know you like your game theory, and technically we have a 2/7 chance (since doc will claim), but the information we get off of people agreeing to a random lynch isn't that telling I don't think. Rather just spark discussion as usual and see what happens.
Despite,(according to database numbers) a random lynch being slightly more effective, if it hits town it probably gets less information than if there are a couple of lynch candidates and they are discussed and votes are moved around.


That's a reasonable thing to say. That being said, the RNG led (and in general it seems, leads) to a good discussion. I don't think things would have played out as they did unless I RNGed this game, and I'm glad I did.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:26 GMT
#202
On October 02 2013 15:23 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 15:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 02 2013 15:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 02 2013 15:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Seriously though if the reason I've given for lynching him are normal oats behavior then that's like a policy lynch reason right there. We should do it, it would be awesome.


I know you like your game theory, and technically we have a 2/7 chance (since doc will claim), but the information we get off of people agreeing to a random lynch isn't that telling I don't think. Rather just spark discussion as usual and see what happens.
Despite,(according to database numbers) a random lynch being slightly more effective, if it hits town it probably gets less information than if there are a couple of lynch candidates and they are discussed and votes are moved around.


That's a reasonable thing to say. That being said, the RNG led (and in general it seems, leads) to a good discussion. I don't think things would have played out as they did unless I RNGed this game, and I'm glad I did.


That's fine and I think we have some information that came out of it rather than lurker lynch policy talk which is a dead horse.
But do you plan on hanging on to your rng lynch today unless someone becomes obvious scum? Or do you feel that oats is no longer a random lynch now and you think he's most likely to flip scum at this time, and if that changes you'll change your vote?


I'm not planning to vote oats because of RNG. I like my vote on him. I have suspicions on risen. Although HF's most recent posts are nice I'd like to hear more from him once he's awake again (and sloosh remains null). In general, I think given my current info Oats is the optimal lynch for hittings lots of scum, removing potential liabilities at lylo (both as lynchbait and as a poor decisionmaker), and improving thread atmosphere.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:44 GMT
#204
Taking a look at what he's posted so far...

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19888508 fluff question
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19888710 reads, weak, not interrogative, no votes, no reasons
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19888809 weak read
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19888965 weird questions. not getting his point across directly

Not much to go on, but he didn't do much. I'm not ready to lynch him yet but I am quite unimpressed.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:47 GMT
#206
Not really, I wasn't paying attention to you.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:50 GMT
#207
I guess it find it kind of odd now, but it's substantially less odd since you're calling attention to it (good work!)
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 06:55 GMT
#209
I think I'm probably good for now. I want to hear more from oats, and see what people have to say re: my stuff on oats. I think once he returns to the thread his "contributions" will be revealed for what they are and everyone will come around.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 19:05 GMT
#338
Good morning

1) RNG
then 2) oh hey oats is actually scummy
then 3) wait, are you saying this is somehow normal oats behavior? Well, assuming that's true, we need to lynch him anyways since he's a liability.

So either oats is objectively scummy or he's a guy who acts objectively scummy as town. The policy thing I mentioned was just to defuse the stupid meta argument that somehow oats shouldn't be lynched today because he's normally like this
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 19:06 GMT
#339
On October 03 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
I didn't reword anything, I asked BH a question because (as rayn pointed out just now) BH was being unclear as to why his vote was on oats. It was rng then it was reasons then it was rng again.

Wait what Clarity. why did you clarify BH's actions to me if you are not sure what he was doing?


He's been all over my dick. Probably because I wasn't posting though so he wanted to... you know... be helpful? hue
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 19:08 GMT
#342
In any case I need to juggle ocelots eat dinner but I will be back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 19:10 GMT
#343
On October 03 2013 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So BH, you don't know if Oats is scummy or not, you want to policy lynch him right? Or is it RNG? Or wtf is it.


Is this not clear? Where do I say I don't know? Oats is objectively scummy. We lynch him. If for some reason you got hit by a stupid brick that makes you stupid, then I will spell it out real simple

at first I vote oats because of RNG!
then, after that, I talk to oats. Oats is scummy! I keep vote on oats because oats is scummy! the reason I do this is because I think oats is scum, because oats is scummy! i am voting oats for this reason, that he is scummy!
Some people say oats scummy is what town oats does. If their argument is true (it isn't), then oats should be policy lynched anyways, so it's a dumb argument.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 02 2013 19:10 GMT
#344
LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE STILL CONFUSED
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