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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 09:31 GMT
#2626
From TL Noir, day 1, marv and Risen both town in this:
On September 24 2013 08:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:03 marvellosity wrote:
I think Risen is on drugs

Disagreeing with me is fine, but you should probably post reasons for doing so. To me this looks like scum trying to set up something down the road with "Hey Risen is still alive. Wouldn't it be CRAZY if he was actually scum? I mean he hasn't done anything particularly scummy, but Risen plays CRAZY! Look here I had a feeling early on he was being CRAZY."

On September 24 2013 08:15 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 08:08 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:06 Risen wrote:
On September 24 2013 08:03 marvellosity wrote:
I think Risen is on drugs

Disagreeing with me is fine, but you should probably post reasons for doing so. To me this looks like scum trying to set up something down the road with "Hey Risen is still alive. Wouldn't it be CRAZY if he was actually scum? I mean he hasn't done anything particularly scummy, but Risen plays CRAZY! Look here I had a feeling early on he was being CRAZY."


no, i just think you're demented, nothing more.

You're going to have to poke harder if you're trying to get a rise out of me. More useless filler from Marv. Don't remember this from town marv.


Risen this game saying marv doesn't demoralize people like he has..... Clearly wrong and he should know this since it happened to him. Let alone that after his bad case on me day 1 marv was the only person trying to help Risen.

That said:
On September 27 2013 06:11 Risen wrote:
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On September 27 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
On September 27 2013 06:07 Risen wrote:
So much posting, such little use. I hate being a VT.

Someone please, please shoot me tonight so town will kill Mocsta, Cephiro, and FT.


you dying and flipping town does not make it any more likely we kill your reads. you should know that.

I do. I just want to die and watch town ignore my instructions so I can weep silently.

There's just something about my reads that protect people more than hurt them. I can call someone scum and they're pretty much guaranteed to live another cycle. It's kind of ridiculous.

Maybe it's me not making sense. Maybe it's town always being bad. It's probably a little bit of both. Ah well.


This post by Risen seems awfully familiar.

Fuck
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 09:31 GMT
#2627
On October 10 2013 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 10 2013 18:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Is it kinda weird that in rereading holyflare I kind of get sloosh's "clinically clean" feeling?
Like his early posting are kinda constructed, actually. Maybe it's just a style thing but his later posts are more relaxed and have a bit more emotion to them.

Not sure what to make of that.


Wasn't it Dirk who said that?


Erm, Dirk yes.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 09:38 GMT
#2630
On October 10 2013 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
The issue is, obviously, that there are really good reasons to call everyone left alive in the game town.

I can attach what I would usually consider really strong towntells to everyone left.


Can you explain one for each of us please? Am especially curious about Risen, where for me most of the game it's been "too crazy to be scum".... of course there is some voting stuff that speaks in his favour...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 09:49 GMT
#2632
Your last point on Risen is really good....
Here's the thing about Risen though, if I make a case on someone exclaiming I am super confident they are scum and they flip town, I lose confidence. This has happened to Risen like 2.5 times... How does he manage to, yet again, exclaim that he's solved the game and is super confident in me being scum before even making a case, again.....

I understand I'm not Risen and he clearly thinks differently than I do but it's not like he's incapable of learning
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 10:51 GMT
#2645
If Risen gets nightkilled I will eat my hat
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 10:51 GMT
#2646
But yes if lylo is you me marv I kill you, there's never been a question there, no need to hint at anything
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 10:56 GMT
#2653
Well ofcourse I'm not going to vote holy and afk for 48 hours but that's where I'm at right now and I have no reason to "hint" at anything. Anyway, Risen isn't getting nightkilled, like, no way.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 10:59 GMT
#2655
On October 10 2013 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't Holy tbh.

WHICH MEANS WE 100% KILL HOLY IF HE IS ALIVE TOMORROW !!!!!!!!!!1234395849038509486504683045834128361


Oh?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 11:10 GMT
#2657
I thought you were talking about who the last scum was.
I do think the night kill will be very telling tonight.

I expect it to be me though, why do you think it'll be holy?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 11:25 GMT
#2661
On October 10 2013 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
I thought you were talking about who the last scum was.
I do think the night kill will be very telling tonight.

I expect it to be me though, why do you think it'll be holy?


Risen is suspicious of you
I've been leaning on Risen, but fencesitting like a boss
Holy leaning very slightly on you?
I've been "scummy"/under pressure all game

Holy looks least suspicious to other players, least lynchable.

If Risen is scum he'll kill me over holy because if he kills holy he's dead.
If Holy is scum he cannot kill holy.
If I'm scum... yeah I probably kill holy.

That was my analysis without saying it earlier, but now you're saying holy is the likely night kill and I don't understand how you got to that conclusion.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 11:30 GMT
#2663
On October 10 2013 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2013 20:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 10 2013 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 10 2013 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
I thought you were talking about who the last scum was.
I do think the night kill will be very telling tonight.

I expect it to be me though, why do you think it'll be holy?


Risen is suspicious of you
I've been leaning on Risen, but fencesitting like a boss
Holy leaning very slightly on you?
I've been "scummy"/under pressure all game

Holy looks least suspicious to other players, least lynchable.

If Risen is scum he'll kill me over holy because if he kills holy he's dead.
If Holy is scum he cannot kill holy.
If I'm scum... yeah I probably kill holy.

That was my analysis without saying it earlier, but now you're saying holy is the likely night kill and I don't understand how you got to that conclusion.


no, he's not going to kill the guy he's going to try to lynch at lylo. that makes no sense to me at all. he will kill holy and hope to overcome my bias.


Right, killing you makes more sense for a scum risen, my point is he wouldn't kill holy I don't think.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 11:30 GMT
#2664
But I dunno it just seemed strange for you to draw that conclusion but I guess it's no big deal.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 11:35 GMT
#2667
Yeah that's fine. And no my point was wrong in regards to risen, he'd kill you.

Wasn't so much about the nks as your thought process but honestly in hindsight I'm not sure what I expected.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 12:22 GMT
#2677
You should look at one of my town games too and see if those look similar.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 12:25 GMT
#2679
Erm. I guess in aperture I was more "certain" about things than I am as town?
Like with slam I bussed him so hard and never really let up or reconsidered. Same went for lynching town. Once I was attacking someone I barely ever let up.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 12:32 GMT
#2682
He's gonna talk about the giant case I made day 1 on FT.
Didn't do that in GoT and got called out for it by FT.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 13:09 GMT
#2686
From game of thrones where I was town
On August 10 2013 13:50 FirmTofu wrote:
Town Clarity is someone who has a very confident Day 1. He pressures people, attacks with authority, and backs off only when he is confident that the player he is attacking is not scum. Clarity displayed NONE of that during day 1. Clarity played rather passive and although he was relatively active, his accusations were a lot less characteristic of his town play.

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 15:51 GMT
#2689
On October 11 2013 00:49 Risen wrote:
I don't understand why anyone would want me to post my case anytime before the end of the night. That's stupid.


??
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 15:52 GMT
#2690
Watching the thread like hawks is we
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 10 2013 16:24 GMT
#2692
Don't worry Risen, if you're not scum then whoever is is most likely not killing you.
If you wait and I'm scum, imagine I kill holyflare, he now never gets to give his opinion on it which marv might need to decide who to kill lylo.
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