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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 20:20 GMT
#361
On October 03 2013 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:17 marvellosity wrote:
It's not like you for me to not understand where you're going and have to prod you, dear.

what does this mean?


It means normally I know exactly what you're doing and what you're pursuing at any one moment in time. The BH/Oats thing just seems/seemed to be... hanging there.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 02 2013 20:21 GMT
#362
Yeah i get that marv. I agree what's been said about Sloosh/Dirk/HZ.
I have now read the BH/Oats interaction for 2 times and i still don't know what to make out of it. Guess i know after one more time.
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 02 2013 20:22 GMT
#363
BTW someone asked me this and I forgot to reply, I forget who: if someone claimed something obviously false like jester or cop or something in this open setup, whether or not I would vote them would be dependent on like how serious I think their fakeclaim is. We're evaluating the possibility of a troll/joke vs scum who didn't read the setup. If someone got bored nad said something like "clearly I am the cop u guise" that's not a reason to vote. If someone seriously and genuinely fakeclaims cop then that's a different story-- I'd vote him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 20:28 GMT
#364
BH, are you still set on this Oats thing?

No comment to make on slOosh, Dirk, whoever?

Oats is an interesting case. Him asking me if I'm scum seems out of place (I'm aware he asks people that all the time) because there was very little reason for him to do so at the time - evidently he agreed with me about Dirkzor and was willing to sheep me on the vote, and yet also asks me if I'm scum?

How do those two things go together?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 02 2013 20:31 GMT
#365
still shaving ocelot. don't particularly like sloosh. i see that there is some hubbub about dirk but will need to read through again before weighing in.

oats mostly flailing and trying to look real. he isn't.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 20:31 GMT
#366
Btw, Risen, your case on Clarity is riddled with confirmation bias.

Any good points you may have had (I picked up on the slOosh townread thing) are kinda lost in between all the points that clearly aren't actually points.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
October 02 2013 20:33 GMT
#367
Risen probably decided clarity was scum then analyzed him rather than vice versa
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2013 20:41 GMT
#368
And so the cycle continues where I accuse someone of being scum and they're immune to lynch.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#369
On October 03 2013 05:41 Risen wrote:
And so the cycle continues where I accuse someone of being scum and they're immune to lynch.


In all seriousness, just listen to what I said without getting defensive about it. If I'm reading your case and I'm dismissing 80% of it as non-alignment indicative, then the 20% that remains gets hidden in between the mess that's the rest of it.

Less than halfway into Day 1 there's going to be, at most, two or three succinct points why someone could be mafia. Not PBPing their entire filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#370
Like if you're town, Risen, I want to play *with* you, not you get grumpy because people don't like your case.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 02 2013 22:40 GMT
#371
On October 03 2013 05:31 marvellosity wrote:
Btw, Risen, your case on Clarity is riddled with confirmation bias.

Any good points you may have had (I picked up on the slOosh townread thing) are kinda lost in between all the points that clearly aren't actually points.


Can you explain this? As in, it's just something you noticed or it's something you found scummy?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 22:40 GMT
#372
On October 03 2013 00:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


It's twice you've mentioned this now without any furthe explanation.

Makes marv a sad little whore.

Fluffy initial vote, little follow up, unnaturally defensive posture (w/ respect to BH). Will be reading his new big post and giving subsequent thoughts.


@HolyFlare
I'm arguing against the notion that Dirkzor did the typical scum move of parking their vote on a place where it won't be noticed and is therefore scum. That's not true.

I agree that he didn't read carefully and that he retracted his initial statement. He admits making a mistake.
On October 02 2013 22:38 Dirkzor wrote:
Maybe I didn't value that vote so highly. Maybe I did just want to stir up things to see what fell out.

I read this differently, like, he wasn't sure either kind of thing. Not a sarcastic response.


As for Oats, could you explain why his unvote is scummy? As for the meta thing, "I'm not too into meta" = "I'm not into reading into people's game history and doing all that jazz, which is what you were doing." If you have specific things about his post you can point out I'd be happy to address them without using meta.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 22:48 GMT
#373
On October 03 2013 02:12 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 02:01 slOosh wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 03 2013 00:16 slOosh wrote:
I still think Risen is lame, but he hasn't posted yet.

As for Dirkzor ... I'm leaning town on him. The thing reads like he came into thread while still developing thoughts, got called out and is all frazzled out for it. I disagree that voting HF is the easy way to go, because at the time three people (me then BH then clarity) had given town reads on him.

Scum willingly voting HF after seeing three people give town reads means that they are ready to engage attention. So I don't think it was an easy "park my vote move along".


Being frazzled is exclusively a townie characteristic?

Yes his vote draws attention to him but he clearly did not read the thread in enough detail to provide good reasons for his vote, which means he possibly did not read closely enough to understand thread sentiment about HF either.


I never said it was, I'm saying that is how I'm reading it. Frazzled town rather than frazzled scum.

I agree with you that he did not read the thread in detail. I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that both town and scum can do that and based on his general tone / manner regarding how he deals with marv's pressure makes me lean town on him. Let's push that point: what parts of his followup look more scummy than how a town in his situation would behave?


His vote on HF had faulty reasoning. Once it gets asked of him to point out HF's "sheeping of BH and his lack of contributions" he backtracks, because he has to, as either alignment.
I really would like you to specify what exactly gives you your townread.

In your eyes, how would a scum HF react differently than how he has reacted? Or if you prefer, what is it he's done that you think he wouldn't do as scum?

I think he is trying to give honestly address each question directed at him and that there is a general consistency throughout his postings / I can follow his thought process easily.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#374
On October 03 2013 07:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 05:31 marvellosity wrote:
Btw, Risen, your case on Clarity is riddled with confirmation bias.

Any good points you may have had (I picked up on the slOosh townread thing) are kinda lost in between all the points that clearly aren't actually points.


Can you explain this? As in, it's just something you noticed or it's something you found scummy?


It was weird, but i think your explanation for it was fine.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#375
rayn, what parts of Risen's post do you find townish?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 23:01 GMT
#376
On October 03 2013 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
BH, are you still set on this Oats thing?

No comment to make on slOosh, Dirk, whoever?

Oats is an interesting case. Him asking me if I'm scum seems out of place (I'm aware he asks people that all the time) because there was very little reason for him to do so at the time - evidently he agreed with me about Dirkzor and was willing to sheep me on the vote, and yet also asks me if I'm scum?

How do those two things go together?


Opinions on this, slOosh?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
October 02 2013 23:09 GMT
#377
I don't understand. He calls you null. Plus if he is doing it all the time, how does it seem out of place?
On October 02 2013 23:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think that marv is null, he hasnt shown much of anything either way.

marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 23:13 GMT
#378
he asks me if i'm scum. read it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 23:13 GMT
#379
and i explained why it's out of place :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 02 2013 23:14 GMT
#380
do you normally ask someone if they're mafia when you're sheeping their case?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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