World Heavyweight Championship mafia - Page 16

On October 04 2013 05:18 Risen wrote:

Opening post makes no sense. Literally 0 sense. I have no idea what to make of it.



More nonsense. This could go either way. Is he being sarcastic with his dundundun, or does he actually think it's reasonable? He could argue either way, and I hate posts that hedge.



Trolling in a World Heavyweight Championship/useless filler. Makes total sense from a town perspective (it doesn't). It doesn't make too much sense from scum perspective either, HOWEVER, filler does make sense from a scum perspective.



So I guess this is supposed to be his intro post? Wassup? A lot has happened in the thread at this point, how about saying something about it instead of asking a question to no one in particular. More filler.


Meta posts are horrible, but it seems to me everyone else is saying this is town Oats. Why is rayn immediately coming into the thread with suspicion on Oats? Is it a hedge against a future oats flip? Is he just trying to take up space? (filler) Why don't you point out why he doesn't look like usual town oats?



Oh. Sure.



More filler. It's not even a directed question. It's just a "Hey guys anyone know what BH is doing? I haven't read the thread."

But wait...



He is caught up. He has read the thread. He knows as much as everyone else about what BH is doing. So why ask the question in the first place? In this same post we see he finally has something to say. Why didn't he just say that from the get go?


Why not? Any reason? No reason given, no explanation. It's just filler and we're supposed to just take his reads. This is where it first seems to me that rayn knows too much. Does he know they're town? Or is he defending one of his scum team mates. Those are both bad.


Sure, but why is it scummy? What about that post makes it scummy? What are you thinking?


But you don't make posts unless you've read the thread already. So why do you need to look into him? This is just him taking time to think through his post instead of just giving his thoughts on Dirk. That's scummy.



Bullshit. I'm the only one who knows I'm town. I HATE META POSTS. Why are you kinda sure? Why are you waiting for other people to ask you why I'm town, or to explain why I'm town? Why don't you just say why I'm town? Why are you holding these things back? Because you're scum.



Why are you still droning on about this? Filler. This isn't pressuring at all.



What's the point here?





What do you think it means? It's pretty straightforwards. Filler.

Holy shit it's a list post. For real?

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My comments were reasonable and perfectly fine? No they weren't. I bitched out of the thread because, as usual, no one wants to listen to me except marv who listens to everybody. Where the hell does this Dirk thing come from? Why does it take you this long to finally want to vote Dirk? You talked about him way earlier. Nothing has changed except Sloosh stuff. The person you find scummy. You find him SO SCUMMY, in fact, that he's a scum read for you, but wtf? He voted sloosh. So he's bussing his teammate d1? You find him scummy for voting sloosh who is also a scum read for you? I can't wrap my head around it, it makes no sense.

Back to his defense of me now. This is so scummy.



This is what I do. You know how I play. Fair enough, I've played quit a few games of TL mafia both as scum and as town.



Hedging now. Before you were pretty sure, now I'm not surely town. And in the post directly after saying you know how I play, you say you have never seen any of my scum games. You haven't read anything of me as scum, but you just said you know how I play. That is a huge contradiction. Now you need to look into my recent 3P game (what happened with that?)


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Sea of grillz where rayn starts asking a million questions instead of just analyzing posts. There are times when someone should question, and you know what? You can probably throw out as many questions as you want as long as you've done your own work to answer the questions you are asking. Rayn doesn't do that, though. He asks for everyone's opinion on everything, but doesn't give the answers to his own questions. So instead of analysis, we see rayn filling the thread with spammed questions and he grills people.

I think this post is especially telling. When I read it I couldn't believe someone actually said this.


Impatience? This game has 48 hour days. Patience is a required trait. Beyond that, someone who is town will raise their questions when they come to them. They don't wait to see that the person is in the thread and then ask them. And maybe town players occasionally do this thing called scum hunting. Where is yours? A list post is not scum hunting. Grilling people and asking a million questions is not scum hunting. Scum hunting requirtes analysis of people's posts, and Rayn is not doing that. He's posting largely filler, largely defenses of people he shouldn't be dfending, and a list post.


Will he/we? You've come to no conclusions in the past, why should you now?


Because transparency is a bad thing. This is you openly saying, "I'm laying a trap, the trap doesn't work if I tell you guys how I'm laying it." So what's the point of your trap now?


Nit picking aimlessly.


Don't like the response to your nit pick and get called on it? Just say the person is making up their reasons.


This is so slimy. I don't see Holyflare as flip-flopping here. When I woke up and was reading through the thread in one go I caught this. Why are you trying to paint his changing of his mind as flip-flopping? Why is changing your mind a bvad thing? See new evidence? Change your mind. Worried about looking like scum? Don't be. It's in town's best interests for you to be as honest as possible. The only people who concern themselves with changing their mind are scum.


Probably because this is the second person you've voted on that you think is potentially bussing their team mate without voting sloosh. Are you bouncing around everyone BUT sloosh because he's your team mate?


How about you call him on what the actual problem with his post was? Holyflare is new and doesn't know everyone's meta, but he's making a meta read on you. Why is your first concern that he's not seeing your meta correctly? This hyper-self-awareness is scummy as hell.

Regardless, I'm so tired of this HF/rayn battle, I hope something new comes up. Rayn does seem pretty convinced about his HF read now, though.


Oh. Just kidding. Reasoning?


What? So you are going back to your earlier reads and dropping the HF entirely while still managing to completely avoid the person in the lead right now who is sloosh and who you have already found scummy. Is the game really this easy?


Whaaaa?! Where the hell did I come into this? Now your defense of me is that I haven't been around and you don't want to lynch me because of that? What happened to your town read on me? We're supposed to believe that you're just giving up your vote and potentially moving it to a town read because you're leaving? I get having to be away, I've been away from the thread a LOT. I'm becoming very busy. That doesn't mean I'm willing to lynch a town read, though.



Just confirming I'm a town read here... that you are willing to lynch...

I had to rush this a bit because I have to leave, but raynpelikoneet knows too much about me without actually knowing anything about my play, his filter is filled with filler, he's willing to lynch a town read, and he's been dodging a sloosh lynch the entire game in spite of sloosh being a scum read earlier and sloosh leading in votes.