In any case, I think oats is probably the most likely to be town out of our 4 suspects, so if we all have a townread on oats let's just lynch marv sloosh dirk in that order

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:10 GMT

#1504

hm, that's a reasonable thought clarity but there's also the possibility that marv as scum, given 120 hours in the thread without me around, could talk his way out of the lynch. Marv's a pretty good player. And honestly, no matter what sloosh flips it doesn't really "give us more info" since he either flips scum and the game is over or he flips town. We can just work on the assumption he flips town and lynch him later.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:12 GMT

#1506

like, let me put it this way: marv resolutely claiming he's fine getting lynched if sloosh flips town (like, for reals fine) has already put doubt in your mind, hasn't it? You're wondering if scum marv woudl be willing to throw away the game like that. Hell, maybe you're thinking you might not want to lynch him after all if sloosh flips town, since why would scum make a play like that?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:14 GMT

#1508

I'm not saying marv can't be town. He certainly can be. I'm saying that marv is a canny, tricky, capable player as whatever alignment. He's the kind of player people get suspicious of just for being alive because he's that dangerous. And honestly, I think if Marv isn't the first lynch, he's simply not getting lynched. Now, if we're pretty sure marv is town, that's fine. We lynch sloosh dirk oats and hope for the best. But if we're not committing to lynching marv first you need to know what you're getting into. Marv's the only player in this game who's close to me in terms of skill, and without me around for 120 hours I'm sure he won't be the second lynch. I'm really sure.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:14 GMT

#1509

On October 05 2013 03:12 marvellosity wrote:
no, definitely lynch me after sloosh. just do it.

Would you be happy if the order were reversed?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:15 GMT

#1511

On October 05 2013 03:14 marvellosity wrote:
funny how noone chooses BH to represent TL offsite isn't it

would you be happy to be lynched first if we 100% gauranteed sloosh was lynch #2?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:17 GMT

#1514

But there's no REAL reason why we should lynch Sloosh before you, right? I mean, if we all 100% agree on the lynches, we might as well lynch you first, and you as town win either way, right? Does that sound ok?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:18 GMT

#1516

On October 05 2013 03:17 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

no, i want to lynch mafia. lynch me after.

there's literally no difference except we win a cycle earlier.

you won't be around for either lynch anyway.

See, I don't see why you care about the order if you're literally willing to be the second lynch. Unless, of course, you're planning to talk your way out of it without me alive for 120 hours.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:18 GMT

#1517

On October 05 2013 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
ah.

back to ignoring BH.

should have known not to actually talk to him.

I'm not the one lobbing insults here, marv, I'm the one who lynched Scum D1.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:19 GMT

#1519

On October 05 2013 03:18 marvellosity wrote:
i'm willing to be the 2nd lynch because i know we'll have won by then.

and if we haven't won then town will NEED to kill me or they'll tear themselves apart

and town will still have another lynch to get it right.

Um, but if we lynch you first them Sloosh town is in the same position at LYLO right. I don't see the problem.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:20 GMT

#1521

So then you'd be fine if we lynched you first then sloosh.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:21 GMT

#1524

On October 05 2013 03:20 marvellosity wrote:
except we're lynching sloosh tomorrow.

so you can talk your way out of the D2 lynch? unlikely.

Alright, I'm 100% behind this plan unless people find oats scummier than dirk

1) lynch Marv D2
2) lynch sloosh D3
2) lynch dirk D4 at lylo

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:25 GMT

#1528

If you're really town, why does it matter if you die first, marv? I think there's a good chance you're town and legitimately just like this for some reason, but I also think there's a good chance you're hung up on this because you're scum. You think you can play it super clean and open between now and the D3 lynch, and people won't even bother voting you. Sure, you derailed the lynch D1 and outed the doctor, and were conveniently away as we desperately tried to draw votes together to lynch rayn. But you're acting so sure that you're town! you must be town!

and you won't get voted D3.

I can see a scum marv doing this and honestly it makes no difference for our wincon who gets lynched first, I just think of you, sloosh, and dirk, you're the one who given time could really talk his way out of a lynch as scum. so we lynch you first.

simple enough, right?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:25 GMT

#1530

On October 05 2013 03:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm way more confident in a sloosh lynch.
Like, no comparison between the two.

I'd go as far as to say I have a townread on marv >.>

so you'd prefer a sloosh dirk oats set of a lynches?

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:26 GMT

#1531

On October 05 2013 03:25 marvellosity wrote:
except i'm town and most of town aren't morons so we won't lynch me tomorrow

ez

I'm just asking if you understand my thought process. Come on, marv, if you're town work with me here. I don't have a lot of time before i have to go and I'd like to be productive.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:27 GMT

#1533

A deranged cat who lynched scum, not the doctor, D1!

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:27 GMT

#1535

Or uh, maybe just a normal cat who did that. I'm not sure I shoudl be owning up to the "deranged" thing.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:29 GMT

#1543

In any case, maybe we don't want to lynch Marv at all and go with sloosh/dirk/oats as our lynches. I can see an argument for that, since marv was pretty good for the first like 75% of D1. I'm just saying, *IF* we want to lynch Marv, if we think that's a good move, we should probably either do it first or just table it and not do it at all because a scum Marv would talk his way out somehow.

Blazinghand

United States25561 Posts

October 04 2013 18:31 GMT

#1545

On October 05 2013 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
I want to know why Marv is against lynching himself day 2, but not day 3.

Well, there's two answers I can see.

1) town marv: Marv is very prideful and legitimately thinks sloosh is scum. He wants to come out of this with a big e-peen and say he didn't get mislynched. I can see this for sure. He might also just want this game to be over more quickly, but honestly it would be over for him D2 either way (town wins and sloosh burns, or marv is dead)

2) scum marv: Despite what he says, this "i'm okay with dying D3, just quote this and vote me" thing actually looks pretty townie. You know when you read marv's posts you start to think he's town, and maybe he's gonna play it up so hard people dont' want to vote him by D3. 120 hours of helpful and friendly marv who's ready to die for the town could convince people he's not a good lynch. Honestly, scum marv in this position doesn't have a lot of plays, but this one would work.