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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 08 2013 16:57 GMT
#2261
On October 09 2013 01:55 Dirkzor wrote:
I don't blatantly misrepresent things and you know it. I set it up as if you are scum and there is nothing wrong with that because you are scum.

You claim you pushed my lynch, but you never really. You made a few questions and people followed you. You then proceed to back of because of my answer. Same with oats. You then ended up sheeping to first Sloosh and then Risen. No marks left on D1. Good job scum marv.


if you're town you're on hard drugs

i don't think you're on hard drugs

ergo you're mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 08 2013 16:58 GMT
#2262
saying "and I know it" when I wasn't the only one pointing it out is totally hilarious btw.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 08 2013 17:29 GMT
#2263
Okay dirk. Here's how we're gonna go about things. You claim to be town, everyone else claims you scum.
So.

First, answer this:
On October 08 2013 23:32 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 23:28 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 08 2013 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 08 2013 23:13 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity Open your eyes and think for a moment that Marv isn't town. Read his filter from D1.


If you think that wasn't the first thing I did after d1 you are wrong


Then you tell me what Marv did D1?

I'll summrize it if you want but I'd rather you(Or HF/Risen) read and posted what marv actually did D1. Explain his fake Oats pressure. Explain his Sloosh vote sheeping thread sentiment. Explain his Risen voteswitch at the end. Explain his BH stunt.


What marv always does as d1, as either alignment.
But I was onboard with dirk and he was onboard with sloosh so that gives him towniepoints.

The lynch shenannies are meh.

But yes, please summarize how pushing you and then backing off of you makes marv scum, and why you didn't bother mentioning this until today.


Then, show that this isn't all bullshit by backing it up with quotes and context:
On October 08 2013 23:09 Dirkzor wrote:
You say you back and check but you haven't brought this forward? You always react to the present and I find that a bit scummy. All your votes have been done in the moment. Some even without any reason behind.

On October 08 2013 23:05 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2013 23:02 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 08 2013 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2013 20:45 Dirkzor wrote:
On October 08 2013 20:03 Clarity_nl wrote:
On October 08 2013 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
cmon Clarity, that's cheap.


He said it after making two giant posts explaining things.

Like I really don't care if it's cheap.


It is cheap. And if you read my two post nothing they contain are really from anything after D1 lynch.


ignoring more than half the game isn't a point in your favour, my love.

I just focus my scumhunting on day1 becase thats the day that produced the most. Is that wrong?


yes, you focus on everything.

also, you don't mean "day 1" because as you yourself has said, I was very pro-town for the large majority of day 1. You are in fact taking about a 2 hour period of the 140 hours that this game has been going.

And you have only focused on the 2hours prior to present this entire game.

On October 08 2013 23:09 Dirkzor wrote:
You say you back and check but you haven't brought this forward? You always react to the present and I find that a bit scummy. All your votes have been done in the moment. Some even without any reason behind.

On October 08 2013 23:39 Dirkzor wrote:
Clarity it's not about each individual thing he have done. They have all been just enough to look like Town marv pressuring or asking the right question. But have you seen marv push for any lynch for real? no!

He puts pressure on me. I answer and he backs of.
He puts pressure on Oats: Oats answer and he backs of.
You and I find sloosh scummy. He votes with nothing more then "I agree". No follow up.
He vote BH because "lols" (I still fairly believe he did that because he truely don't like BH btw)
Back to sloosh.
Then suddenly: Risen vote! Why? no one knows and noone cared at the time.

On October 08 2013 23:51 Dirkzor wrote:
You didn't lead jack shit. You puts light pressure on me, I answered and you backed off. Same with oats.

On October 09 2013 01:32 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
You may have the traits of a towny but there is always that lingering suspicious nature about you. You were SO SURE about sloosh that when people (oats, risen, dirk etc.) were doing extra scum hunting that you thought it was funny and wouldn't participate. You effectively did not participate in an entire day because you "thought the game was solved". Here we are day 3, and the same scenario is coming down.

The only reason that oats could be killed was to add further speculation about dirkzor making a desperation move, pretty simple play to make if you think about it coming from you it lets you sit back for an entire day again and not have to do anything but vote for dirkzor. This means that you don't have to do even more extra scum hunting compared to if you left oats alive. Oats was looking for scum, even through the trolling, he was pretty much the only one looking. Now, you can conveniently eliminate another day and as you've painted risen as your next target I presume he will be your choice for the day after. Everytime someone so much as mentions the word marv and scum in a sentence you flip out about how you are "the most town, and have progressed us through most of the game".

Now, I'm not saying you are scum, I'm not saying you aren't. Of course I will filter dive you and see whether these feels are baseless or not. This is just a theory after all.

Thank you. And btw Marv didn't progress anything. Bh did the rayn thing. I did sloosh (wrongly) - which you sheeped.
At day 1 lynch marv didn't push anyone towards lynch time and he never committed much to anything.


If you can convince me even half of this isn't complete bullshit then I shall reconsider.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 08 2013 17:33 GMT
#2264
If you want bonus points you can try and explain why certain things make marv scum, but they don't make me scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
October 08 2013 18:37 GMT
#2265
Im on phone. I'll answer tomorrow. But . Already said why you ar etown. Due to D1 lynch.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
October 09 2013 02:33 GMT
#2266
Mr. Perfect Count


marvellosity (1): Dirkzor

Dirkzor (3): Risen, marvellosity, marvellosity, Clarity_nl

Voting is mandatory! Deadline is in about 22.5 hours !

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 09 2013 07:59 GMT
#2267
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 08:41 GMT
#2268
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 09:43 GMT
#2269
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 09:50 GMT
#2270
kinda disappointed holy just left things hanging yesterday. seems pretty weak. and no Risen either :<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 09:51 GMT
#2271
I'm tempted to spend the rest of today convincing holy to kill risen over you tomorrow, in case dirk flips town.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 09:53 GMT
#2272
LOL. You're a qtie. I think we'll be ok though. I can't believe Dirk flips town after his twisty twisty.

Then again, I couldn't believe slOosh would flip town after giving up. I was sure he was just playing out because it was lame to concede :/

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 09:54 GMT
#2273
why are you so sure i'm town again lol? I'm not sure *I'm* that sure I'm town ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#2274
I'm not "that" sure you're town. But I'm sure you're town.

Kinda like how I'm "sure" holy is town. As sure as sure can be in mafia I think, and if I'm being fooled then I'm not good enough to detect it kinda thing.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 09:58 GMT
#2275
yeah that's fair enough. Good answer
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 09:59 GMT
#2276
Basically comes down to your emotions to BH being real regardless of alignment, and you being unlikely to have an outburst like that as scum.
Plus the mind meld.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 10:04 GMT
#2277
I need to state categorically out of game sometime that I'd never let myself do that as mafia. Just so I can quote it in games like these. Because I've played *so* *many* *games* now (50 give or take!) where it's true (lose my shit as town sometimes, never as mafia) that it should basically just be a given by now :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 10:11 GMT
#2278
Maybe instead of making a post like that you should just not lose your shit as either alignment.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 09 2013 10:15 GMT
#2279
Well, duh. But mafia gets me all riled up. I don't *choose* to do it, I just get super pissed off at some things sometimes. Like trying to have a rational debate with someone and they just say "no" or "just because". Fucking annoying way of playing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
October 09 2013 10:29 GMT
#2280
Psh.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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