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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:04 GMT
#1074
On October 04 2013 08:04 marvellosity wrote:
omg IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR ME TO BE MAFIA

HOW CAN YOU BE THIS BRAINDEAD


well marv, like you said, i'm the kind of player you detest )
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:12 GMT
#1081
On October 04 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:
slOosh is mafia. That post there can't come from town-slOosh. Town slOosh would know the whole argument is bullshit.

BH's logic isn't sound, it literally makes zero sense for me to go balls to the wall lynching BH at this point in the game. It couldn't actually make any less sense and yet slOosh is agreeing with it.


I really don't believe your fake indignation at me. It's a decent cover and you're a charismatic, talkative guy, so you're probably gonna wriggle out of this lynch. Bringin up stuff from so long ago in a contrived anger post... blah.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:15 GMT
#1087
stop wtih the insults please, again. not really gonna convince people or yoru fake anger imo
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:17 GMT
#1090
On October 04 2013 08:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:15 Blazinghand wrote:
stop wtih the insults please, again. not really gonna convince people or yoru fake anger imo


Meh, I believe it. I guess he could still be scum and truthful about the anger, but seems unlikely.


But where was all this before? Like, if he REALLY couldn't contain his range just now, why was he able to contain it when he was so mad he was lynching me? This isn't how an actual angry person would react. he's just swearing a bunch and hoping you'll believe he's mad.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:18 GMT
#1093
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#1094
On October 04 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
however retarded you are that you can't see that i hate you, it still makes zero sense for me to push you as mafia in that situation.


given that you're not getting lynched for it, AND you outed the doctor and threatened a no-lynch, I think you did pretty well fo ryourself.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:20 GMT
#1098
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:24 GMT
#1106
On October 04 2013 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:20 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 04 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:
I'm sorry what the actual fuck? You people actually think a doc claim was reasonable at that current time?? Everyone was still on sloosh, it was 4-2 and marv wasn't really gaining any traction. With an hour to go or more why would there ever be a need to claim doc in that circumstance, especially as it's the only power role in the entire game.


which makes marv's instant belief even more weird, right


somewhat, but other peoples behaviour has been way more suspect than marvs currently


think about your first, natural reaction to my claim. the reaction of a townie. Now think about marv's reaction. Why would that be different?

well, he's a different alignment.


say marv is mafia, then who would be your second most reasonable guess as to who is the second one?


hm, that's tough. Not drawing specific associative tells, i'm tempted to go with risen or someone playing a quieter game. I'll have to look into it after marv flips though.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:26 GMT
#1112
Like marv i realize there is a chance here you're town, and given that it's possible, I'm really baffled by your play. Your irrational decision to push me over your actual scumreads makes no sense. I thought the stuff from that game was settled, and the fact that I've been a bit push from time to time is true. I see why you could be mad.

I don't find it at all acceptable that you might play against your wincon. In fact, don't find it remotely believable. No, you're better than that, marv. Youre the kind of guy who people get suspicious of when he's alive D3 because that's how good you can be as a townie. This isn't town marv. Not one bit.

I don't buy that anger. I don't buy that you wouldn't play well. You're a good player, marv. You wouldn't push the doctor for no reason and out him D1.

you're scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#1115
On October 04 2013 08:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not saying I'm willing to switch, but I MIGHT be willing to switch.

blazing and holy, you guys willing to vote risen?
marv?

Might as well find out if it's possible even if we don't do it.


I'm fine with a risen lynch today. I strongly prefer it to a sloosh lynch.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:29 GMT
#1118
On October 04 2013 08:28 marvellosity wrote:
I've stopped reading BH's posts tbh.

I could lynch Risen. slOosh's post looks really genuine.


well at least we agree on something! the second thing. The part where we lynch risen instead of sloosh.

That being said, this like backtracks all your stuff. You look bad for this post. Ignoring the confirmed townie? Come on, marv.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1129
On October 04 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.



But if marv is really scum, we should like 100% lynch him. Your logic only applies if he's scum. Also I'm like 100% getting shot tonight and then without me around you guys won't be together enough to actually lynch marv the silver-tongued.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:32 GMT
#1130
On October 04 2013 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you are idiots.


man, marv literally pushed me for no reason and he's like the leader of this game. what did you want me to do
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:33 GMT
#1131
On October 04 2013 08:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:29 Holyflare wrote:
See the thing is if we lynch marv, we have so many peripheral people around that we wouldn't necessarily gain as much information as we would another player and we've somewhat wasted 2 days of talking. I would be much more comfortable seeing who gets shot at night to determine this whole BH/Marv situation whilst voting for the highest scum read so far.

Annoyingly as a lot of people seem to be afk, nobody can make a counterclaim to BH (or he is doc) which just makes matters worse.

I am fine with a rayn lynch, not sure about risen.



But if marv is really scum, we should like 100% lynch him. Your logic only applies if he's scum. Also I'm like 100% getting shot tonight and then without me around you guys won't be together enough to actually lynch marv the silver-tongued.


EBWOP: not scum
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:35 GMT
#1133
I really wanted to not claim! I really did!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:36 GMT
#1136
On October 04 2013 08:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Risen


Wavering on sloosh, give him another day. I'm not confident in Risen being scum but he's a liability.


so how willing would you be to lynch marv today
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:38 GMT
#1141
On October 04 2013 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
by the way

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 08:25 slOosh wrote:
So here's my problem marv. You say you respect my play. From your filter I glean that you have very iffy reads on Risen and Dirkzor. I also glean that your scum read of me is not substantially strong, mainly based on what I haven't done rather than what I have done.

And yet you are content to let me sail is disconcerting.

But objectively thinking that's me just being upset for being, what I feel like, as unfairly lynched. Maybe I did play really poorly. Ok. That's that.

Umm ...

Risen is #1 pick for having 0 followup on the clarity case. Additionally he finds rayn suspicious of finding him town, which is strange as if he was town that should be the norm. You don't actively look people with town reads on you and then do a PBPA on them.

Still don't see what the problem with Dirkzor is. I think he made an honest mistake with what he perceived as a contradiction in my view of Risen's case and my vote on Clarity.

Oats I probably feel moderate to strong town. We've played a bunch of games back to back so maybe that's where I'm getting it from. He is surprisingly consistent and even predictable, and his playstyle looks like that this game.

Rayn I don't know too much since the majority of his posts were in the 21~40 range, which I was only able to skim. Prior to that he was pretty lackluster. Lack of activity isn't alarming (I recall he has like a 12 hr job or something), but what he did with that time "I don't know what BH is doing" and then the lack of followup on him was lame.

Holyflare I felt like a meticulous person, very structured in his posts (My brain says this is what Oats initially voted him for, cause Oats doesn't like wordiness), so I relate with Holyflare. I would still take care not to let him blindside everyone b/c he is a newbie or whatever. Koshi did that during Sicilian I thinks.

This leaves the trio of Marv BH and clarity.
If BH didn't claim doctor I probably would still go after him.
I don't like marv, but only because I'm sulky.
Clarity as I have explained, you had intertwining earlier, and as i have said, I didn't feel like that was a large enough sample size. Scum can intertwine with town. But they usually won't over large portions of time, which is what pg 20~40 showed me.


Yup that's it. Umm ... I'm sort of ok with dying right now ... I've made peace with it. In anycase, here's my vote of confidence fwiw after my flip.
##Unvote: Blazinghand
##Vote: Risen


Why would you ever be ok with dying if you were town? How has anyone not mentioned this. BH talks about marv going against the 'wincon' but when sloosh just posts something like that how can we ignore it? If you are town you fight to the very last minute to prevent yourself dying. You KNOW you are town, everyone else should therefore be dumb and wrong. Go out of your way to prove it. Don't just accept your fate.


Those are good words of encouragement but honestly I can see town sloosh just being tired with this game, especially after what marv pulled on me, and the doctor being outed D1. getting lynched is the easy way out.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:41 GMT
#1151
On October 04 2013 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
Still don't understand why you wouldn't wait any longer, or wait for traction before claiming. Doesn't make sense.



On November 14 2012 11:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:
I claimed Jailkeeper!

You claimed jailkeeper less than half way through day 1!? The vote count that was just posted had like 4 votes on you. Why did you claim!? Were you really assured of being lynched that early day 1? You must have been acting really scummy to have like everyone against you so quick on day 1. If you were acting that scummy, maybe this is a ploy because who in their right mind claims so freakin early day 1?

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#1155
On November 14 2012 08:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Blazing, you didn't HAVE to claim. I guess it's too late for that though, so let's leave that till post game.
Do you still believe Zbo is scum, and who else do you have scumreads on? Give us as much information as possible this daycycle.


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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
October 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#1159
Rayn, we have literally 18 minutes to the lynch. you need to do something other than that.
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