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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 27 2013 20:52 GMT
#861
Has TL ever random lynched?
I'll be real proud to be a part of it one way or another because everyone is always saying it never happens.
That and policy lynching.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 27 2013 20:53 GMT
#862
I can join the experiment. Only because it's Koshi. :D
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 20:53 GMT
#863
On September 27 2013 22:52 Palmar wrote:
It's completely viable to have a town read at this point in the game, I have a few people I'm leaning town on myself. However it's wildly inconsistent for yamato to proclaim his townread on me, and then proceed to ignore everything I'm saying, in favor of a policy lynch with almost nothing to back it up.

I think VE is town, that's given 2 scumteams... is that strange?


I wanted Vayne to explain his read on me, and now he did. I did fine with my vote by any metric.

FT I've held off on giving a read of because I truly don't know if he's actually terrible as town when he's really posting or not.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 20:54 GMT
#864
On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).

Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it.

This post is horrible. Saying WoS is being a shithead and voting him for it are two different things. Rayn is worthy of a hard look for this shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 27 2013 20:54 GMT
#865
Hey yamato, why is WoS town and what do you think of SnB's post about Palmar?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 27 2013 20:55 GMT
#866
On September 28 2013 05:54 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).

Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it.

This post is horrible. Saying WoS is being a shithead and voting him for it are two different things. Rayn is worthy of a hard look for this shit.

Being a shithead when there is no reason to be a shithead and emoing about "rolling town because TL towns so bad" isa townie thingy to do at the start of the game?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 20:56 GMT
#867
On September 27 2013 23:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
I wouldn't say my suspicion of you yamato is unfounded, here is his filter from persona http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=yamato77

In it we find countless one to three liners that are basically just posted to insult people, similar to this game. You also tried to push me in that game for silly reasons and no one followed you since your reasons for lynching people are terrible when you are scum. Eventually you'll try and make a big "reads" post and then eventually get lazy and stop trying as scum again, resorting to more personal attacks.

Compare that to how you played the recent TL mafia and it's not even close. If you want to prove you are town then I suggest stop posting nothing but insults, because you only do that as scum. Your town game consists of insults and analysis.

This is somewhat fair, but I disagree that I hadn't given any analysis so far. Regardless, it'a enough to make me unvote you, because you're the first person to mention this difference in my play (which I will admit exists to an extent thus far). It's not entirely unfair to be suspicious of me in this context.

##Unvote
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 20:58 GMT
#868
On September 28 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back. Some things I noticed:

1) Palmar made a point about hiro that I almost made myself, but thought twice about and decided not to make. The reason why is this: I have a slight townread on hiro protagonist based on how he's approaching this game. While it's certainly a fact that hiro hasn't provided any scumreads, he seems comfortable getting all up in people's grills. I can absolutely see Palmar's point about hiro, however, and would definitely like to see some thoughts on who hiro thinks is scum.

b) BH is DEFINITELY the hero this town deserves. Definitely.

IV) RNG Lynch is dead as far as I'm concerned. Not because there's not enough support for it (several people still haven't commented, it could feasibly get pushed through) but because no one has come up with a truly random means of arriving at a lynch and I'm too lazy to figure it out myself. We should already have a system by now, and we'd need to arrive at a name relatively soon in order to ensure that everyone who claimed to support the idea has time to follow through and vote for the person or not.

Finally)
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 22:09 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:03 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hmm, VA, in case you dont get it, you need to contribute. you cant just sit there and 'watch'. Unless you give me a good reason for you to just chill back(hint: you cant), then you better start giving me reads. what do you think af the game so far? who is suspicious in your eyes? What might have slipped under the radar?

From this point on, your gonna carry your weight. got it?


I have no interest in petty arguments or random bickering this game. The game is very aggressive and has little content right now, which is to be expected when there are pretty much 4 factions, 3 of which has very small numbers. You'll find out who I think is suspicious through my vote. Not sure what that last question is about. Bed time.

I don't care much about this grack lynch anymore. It's too overtalked for my liking.

Now we're lynching this dude for refusing to play the game.

##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority


Since when did a lynch become bad because people talked about it too much? And since when did VA refuse to play the game?

##Vote: yamato77

yamato77 is scum, because he's clearly not even trying to find scum. His early appeal to Palmar was ridiculous...he said that if they were both town they'd find scum together - last time they were both town they tunneled each other incessantly and one of them got lynched. He's full of shit and needs to die today.

Remember when you said I accuse you every game? Same goes for you, pal.

I think you're actually town given some revelation I had recently about your play, so it would be nice if you didn't vote me before I have really had a chance to read over the thread once it had enough posts to actually make sense of. But I've read the thread now and you seem like you want to tunnel me do whatever. Hopefully you stop.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:00 GMT
#869
On September 28 2013 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.

Meta is an extremely good reason to vote for someone.
Why dont you think so?


Would you think it would be fun if people meta'ed me when I don't really have a certain playstyle? So I don't hold people to some extra standards. I just look for motivation behind scum driven agenda. Even lying isn't really a big deal to me, that annoys me when people think lying = scum

Dont you agree that people play certain ways as scum and different ways as town? You arent 'everyone'.

VE, doesnt matter, got whiteknighted.

Why do I have a feeling that Yamato is gonna flip town guys


yea, hence why I brought up the yamato filter. But I don't think its a good enough reason to lynch some one by itself. There should be some sort of explanation for the yamato votes but I don't see much of any.

You're ignoring my post on the matter.


I saw it. There's a lot of people not trying to find scum right now, myself included. The thread is going nowhere fast.

We already have 3 people in this game trying to grudge vote me or something and I really doubt they are all scum, so not alignment indicative for me right now.

Okay, what about the fact that he said "Grack has been talked about too much for me to lynch"

Does that make sense at all? Like at all? Isn't yamato supposed to be...you know...GOOD if he's town?

I actually no longer thought grack was a good lynch at that time because of how he had been talked about. When someone's actions are overanalyzed so much, it can become unclear whether your initial impression of their play was correct or not. As of reading the thread, I actually would no longer consider him in the pool of mafia candidates.
Writer@WriterYamato
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 27 2013 21:01 GMT
#870
On September 28 2013 05:58 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm back. Some things I noticed:

1) Palmar made a point about hiro that I almost made myself, but thought twice about and decided not to make. The reason why is this: I have a slight townread on hiro protagonist based on how he's approaching this game. While it's certainly a fact that hiro hasn't provided any scumreads, he seems comfortable getting all up in people's grills. I can absolutely see Palmar's point about hiro, however, and would definitely like to see some thoughts on who hiro thinks is scum.

b) BH is DEFINITELY the hero this town deserves. Definitely.

IV) RNG Lynch is dead as far as I'm concerned. Not because there's not enough support for it (several people still haven't commented, it could feasibly get pushed through) but because no one has come up with a truly random means of arriving at a lynch and I'm too lazy to figure it out myself. We should already have a system by now, and we'd need to arrive at a name relatively soon in order to ensure that everyone who claimed to support the idea has time to follow through and vote for the person or not.

Finally)
On September 27 2013 22:09 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:03 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hmm, VA, in case you dont get it, you need to contribute. you cant just sit there and 'watch'. Unless you give me a good reason for you to just chill back(hint: you cant), then you better start giving me reads. what do you think af the game so far? who is suspicious in your eyes? What might have slipped under the radar?

From this point on, your gonna carry your weight. got it?


I have no interest in petty arguments or random bickering this game. The game is very aggressive and has little content right now, which is to be expected when there are pretty much 4 factions, 3 of which has very small numbers. You'll find out who I think is suspicious through my vote. Not sure what that last question is about. Bed time.

I don't care much about this grack lynch anymore. It's too overtalked for my liking.

Now we're lynching this dude for refusing to play the game.

##Unvote
##Vote VayneAuthority


Since when did a lynch become bad because people talked about it too much? And since when did VA refuse to play the game?

##Vote: yamato77

yamato77 is scum, because he's clearly not even trying to find scum. His early appeal to Palmar was ridiculous...he said that if they were both town they'd find scum together - last time they were both town they tunneled each other incessantly and one of them got lynched. He's full of shit and needs to die today.

Remember when you said I accuse you every game? Same goes for you, pal.

I think you're actually town given some revelation I had recently about your play, so it would be nice if you didn't vote me before I have really had a chance to read over the thread once it had enough posts to actually make sense of. But I've read the thread now and you seem like you want to tunnel me do whatever. Hopefully you stop.

You've got time. I'm actually voting for RNG right now, who is Koshi.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:02 GMT
#871
On September 28 2013 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Koshi's thought process is much more free-flowing in Golden Sun, he accuses S&B at the very start but then he moves on and comments on everyone else in the game. Here his posting is more held-back. He forced a scum read on me early game and is just sticking to it not commenting as much on other people. He is asking me these useless questions. He is better than this when he is town. Koshi is scum.

Because of this post, to be exact.

I agree with the sentiment here and I will take myself a hard look at Koshi's posting. I've found that I tend to ignore people that call me town, so I will rectify this with an honest look at his other contributions to the game.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:04 GMT
#872
On September 28 2013 03:30 FirmTofu wrote:
##vote: Koshi
I'm keeping my word here. BH's solution to the RNG problem is quite inventive. I will double check if it was truly random, but if it was I'm sticking with Koshi.

30% are pretty good odds.

BH, why aren't you voting Koshi?

This is another bad post I noticed in my read of the thread. Notably, I doubt FT, as town, would actually go for RNG. He is usually pretty try hard, in my impression, and has some degree of confidence in his reads. Will have to look deeper to see that else he's said so far.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:06 GMT
#873
On September 28 2013 05:27 Pandain wrote:
He also hasn't responded by being aggressive to those who accuse him, which is something he usually does as town. Note he thought BH had weak reasoning, wouldn't this be suspicious to Yamato? Or does he not want to push him.

BH has yet to respond to me questioning his policy vote of me, but it is odd that he decides to come back to the thread and focus on this RNG business when there is plenty else to talk about. Apparently, his reads haven't changed, but I fail to see him explaining further why I am such a good lynch when I've posted since he left the thread the first time.

As far as arguing with people that think I am mafia, let's just say that I tried that, and it didn't work.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:08 GMT
#874
On September 28 2013 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey yamato, why is WoS town and what do you think of SnB's post about Palmar?

SnB's post was alright but idk if I'm sold on Palmar being scum. I want to know why he voted me before I make any judgement.

WoS isn't necessarily town but you voting for him under those pretenses is shit.
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
September 27 2013 21:10 GMT
#875
your statements and of questions are of no relevance to me yamato
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2013 21:10 GMT
#876
I have to ask, I expected you to be more angry right now about some people voting for Koshi due to RNG.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:11 GMT
#877
On September 28 2013 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:54 yamato77 wrote:
On September 27 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know if Palmar is scum. What he says makes a lot of sense. I am probably going to sheep him on D1 in case i feel like he is really trying to lynch scum (regardless of his alignment).

Atm i wanna lynch WoS.
##Vote: WaveofShadow
The only thing i have found out that's really unlike to come from a townie is him shitting on town before the game hasn't even started fully. Another thing is that he is overly emo and i think he is faking it.

This post is horrible. Saying WoS is being a shithead and voting him for it are two different things. Rayn is worthy of a hard look for this shit.

Being a shithead when there is no reason to be a shithead and emoing about "rolling town because TL towns so bad" isa townie thingy to do at the start of the game?

To some degree, yes, it is. Emotion is a reasonably difficult thing to fake as mafia at times, especially early on.

That said, him not switching modes and actually trying this game does make me somewhat hesitant. He had his little thing about you, but that's his only real "read" and he rescinded it fairly quickly.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:12 GMT
#878
On September 28 2013 06:10 Blazinghand wrote:
your statements and of questions are of no relevance to me yamato

You policy voted me. Since when is that a good way to find mafia?

Right now I think you're full of shit.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 27 2013 21:13 GMT
#879
On September 28 2013 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:
I have to ask, I expected you to be more angry right now about some people voting for Koshi due to RNG.

It's stupid, but people are retarded and don't listen to me.

This is what happens when you float this idea. People get an excuse to leave their vote somewhere for no good reason.
Writer@WriterYamato
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 27 2013 21:14 GMT
#880
I've got plenty of good places for my vote to go if this doesn't work out. Don't you worry your pretty little head yamato.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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