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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:25 GMT
#2304
On October 02 2013 23:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Austin sounds like a cop he read the OP and is using his noggin

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:33 GMT
#2306
On October 02 2013 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
So defensive Austin

Ya bro. I'm so defensive and defended with my bulletproof vest.

That I have cuz I'm a townie.

Not a cop.

Unless I'm a cop?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:35 GMT
#2308
Oats, do YOU want to play the hot dog game? Not the first time I've asked, I know I know, but...come on!

Let's talk about...how VE played D1, must have died N1, because he sure as heck wasn't around for D2, indicating that he died and is a spooky ghost.

Or how people think Koshi is a cop but Koshi Da Cop doesn't appear to have read the scum powers.

Or how ... well, you provide some talking points!
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:44 GMT
#2311
On October 02 2013 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Ok seriously. How does scum give a townie a bulletproof vest without noticing?

I can't win vs scum that are next level ninjas.
No.

Everyone who thinks that FT is scum believes that he is on a scum team with access to bulletproof vests. Read da OP. Sacrifice KP = give a member of your team a bulletproof vest.

The plan to have FT not wear a vest tonight and get shot by cops was being proposed, iirc, by people who were cool with lynching FT --> they believe he's scum.

But again, if he's scum he can sac KP and grab a vest.

If he's town, he won't get shot. If he's scum, we'll use a cop shot and he'll say "I totes wore my vest just in case scum wanted to shoot me tonight" and be "confirmed town" because people don't read the OP.

In neither case is that good for town. It's either a waste of powers or going to confuse thread because cops don't 100% kill scum with that crap, given that scum can bulletproof up if the shot is called.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:49 GMT
#2316
On October 02 2013 23:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I want a hotdog.

VE is playing exactly like me, active d1 not so active d2.

Koshi is totally rad and ballin'

Uhh

Lets talk about Cheese. What cheese do you like?
Except VE did a good bit of looking townie on D1 and trying to influence the thread. You sort of sat there and oatsed.

I have currently been adding Cotija to some green chile chicken chili, and I like that cheese but I dunno how I'm gonna use this whole block. I also have some cool feta for a cold salad that went with the chili.

As far as this game goes, my notes on El Senor Cheesecake say

"What cheese do?" followed by "What he do?"

That's the sum total of my D1 thoughts on Cheese. I just recently played scum with Cheese, but honestly don't really have any major quirks to look for from either of his alignments. So far, he's been inactive as butt and really only seems to engage with WoS, like 60% of his filter is chat with WoS and not other bros. He's on my questionable list, but I don't have things that actively stick out from his filter as SCUMMY to me, unlike other folks.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:51 GMT
#2318
On October 02 2013 23:46 Koshi wrote:
Euuhm. We tell FT to not use his vest tonight. He agrees.

Cops shoot him with PS, bullet not refunded = lynch FT for being scum.

They waste KP to buy a vest, we waste a day lynching FT.
And FT says, "Why wouldn't I use my vest? I was worried that scum would know 100% I was unprotected and shoot me, so I went ahead and used it. The shot would have killed scum anyway."

Now it's the same as before. We wasted a night of cop action JUST to end up with FT maybe town/maybe scum. Unless what you are proposing is that on D3 we lynch a dude because some guys who want to lynch him told him not to do x, and he thought x might save his life, so he did x.

(Besides he's town)


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:53 GMT
#2320
Oats talk to me more. Aside from having an activity graph like yours, what has VE done. How you feelz about that?

How you feel about...ShiaoPi's reads. Gimme like a townread and scumread you agree with and WHY WHY WHY?

On October 02 2013 04:53 ShiaoPi wrote:
Townreads are VA, austin, CR and Wos
On October 02 2013 04:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
nullish on most, keep a close eye on VE, Palmar, hiro and SnB, they are more on the scumside of null.

kill solstice and CC with fire


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 14:54 GMT
#2322
On October 02 2013 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
If Im FT in the position he is in, I would totally take a scumshot because it means someone better than me doesnt get shot.
In an odd way, I THINK I find this to be the towniest thing you've said all game?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 15:03 GMT
#2325
On October 02 2013 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:54 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
If Im FT in the position he is in, I would totally take a scumshot because it means someone better than me doesnt get shot.
In an odd way, I THINK I find this to be the towniest thing you've said all game?

lol its probably the nullest thing ive said all game.
The towniest thing was when I called you cop
You're not my real dad! I'll read people how I want.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 15:49 GMT
#2338
On October 03 2013 00:35 Palmar wrote:
I haven't read austinmcc yet. I'm feeling that of the three people I haven't read he's the most likely to be town, but idk, VE just called CC town so who knows.
You're missing best filter NA. Go read.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 16:18 GMT
#2342
On October 03 2013 01:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 02 2013 23:42 Koshi wrote:
Ok seriously. How does scum give a townie a bulletproof vest without noticing?

I can't win vs scum that are next level ninjas.
No.

Everyone who thinks that FT is scum believes that he is on a scum team with access to bulletproof vests. Read da OP. Sacrifice KP = give a member of your team a bulletproof vest.

The plan to have FT not wear a vest tonight and get shot by cops was being proposed, iirc, by people who were cool with lynching FT --> they believe he's scum.

But again, if he's scum he can sac KP and grab a vest.

If he's town, he won't get shot. If he's scum, we'll use a cop shot and he'll say "I totes wore my vest just in case scum wanted to shoot me tonight" and be "confirmed town" because people don't read the OP.

In neither case is that good for town. It's either a waste of powers or going to confuse thread because cops don't 100% kill scum with that crap, given that scum can bulletproof up if the shot is called.

So who was it who originally came up with that plan?
VA?
Is it indicative at all of his alignment that he would suggest that? Knowing Vayne he's not stupid enough to not think there'd be counterplay.
I'm more worried about people who go

YA GUD IDEAR

than the original

palmar/koshi i believe
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 16:26 GMT
#2351
Which maybe works except maybe those abilities are on the same cop so we can't know what they're going to do. It's two dudes with a list of powers and a mason chat and 120 hours by now. If they can't figure out what good things are for them to be doing, then....

Plus gang members have the pay phone dealy, so there's no guarantee that when someone masons you, they're automatically da popo. Gotta actually figure out whether you trust em.

All that aside, VA isn't super mega scummy for suggesting that. Again, I'm more worried about the followup, people who read the comment but didn't think things through (or did and realized that it's not as airtight as originally thought)

On October 02 2013 23:03 Palmar wrote:
Someone mentioned cops shooting FT tonight and asking FT not to use his vest. I think that would be a pretty solid plan.
On October 02 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 23:03 Palmar wrote:
Someone mentioned cops shooting FT tonight and asking FT not to use his vest. I think that would be a pretty solid plan.

Smart plan.

FT if you read this. Can you confirm not using vest?

+ Show Spoiler +
I am not a cop but doing their work. kk?


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 16:30 GMT
#2353
Like, again, here's the OP

On September 23 2013 05:38 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
POLICE

2 Police (Buddy Cop Team) - By-the-book and loose-cannon cops. Both have a number of items which they can use a set number of times. Some items are exclusive to each cop, others are not. Here is the list:

You don't know how many uses each item has. You don't know which cop has an item, or if both cops get it, etc. etc.

I <3<3<3<3<3 speculation, and THIS is the sort that sometimes goes somewhere.

BUT

In this case, it's not really. I'm going to trust that two townies, given 144 hours, a mason chat, and a list of what they can do (unseen by other people) can figure out good and pro-town actions to take.

The more we discuss it in thread, the more it clogs thread up with stuff that ultimately doesn't matter. I think initial reactions to plans and whatnot can be factored into reads, but at some point we turn away from scumhunting and turn towards "well if the cops can do x, they should do x, but if they can only y, then maybe do b instead" and that's not nearly as helpful as scumhunting, and lets scum get into thread and be slightly active about some topic other than scumhunting.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 16:41 GMT
#2354
I didn't mean to poop on the party that hard
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 22:21 GMT
#2442
Yesterday
On October 02 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am not sold on FT or SnB but the majority of the list you just posted besides that is scum

Today "SnB defended FT so he scum"

Me no likey.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 22:31 GMT
#2447
On October 03 2013 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 07:21 austinmcc wrote:
Yesterday
On October 02 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am not sold on FT or SnB but the majority of the list you just posted besides that is scum

Today "SnB defended FT so he scum"

Me no likey.


vacuum, this is your first bad post
Don't believe so. Reads change, but reads based SOLELY on what a scum wrote about someone is kinda smelly.


For those that have played in games with multiple known scum teams, did it affect your play at all? More/less defensive of teammates?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 22:32 GMT
#2448
Actually really interested in that second bit. Was anyone scum in liar game or other multi scums?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 02 2013 22:39 GMT
#2449
(The answer is yes, Palmar was scum in that game!)
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 03 2013 23:23 GMT
#2612
Pandain looks townier for all this jazz. Even if he's trying to hard defend FT, he's putting a lot of work into it for 0 reward. That feels townie.

I like VE lynch. I like Palmar lynch. I like solstice posting more.

I still don't like Koshi.

VE and Palmar both fall under similar rubrick, where they are active at times (VE D1, Palmar part of D1, time to argue with Rayn) but generally absent and not affecting the game at all. They've got bulletproof vests (unless they're scum). Palmar smells with his being entirely ambivalent about the lynch, never pushing anything, and generally just sitting in the background.

VE smells for basically doing jack, smells slightly slightly slightly for pushing Hiro so hard but that could be perfectly legitimate, but generally just being a nothingmaster.

Palmar also generally absent as far as DOING things goes, being more than just a presence. Some activity D1, some fighting with Rayn, but otherwise just ambivalence about a lynch and ambivalence about the game in general.

In the interest of having only one Pa- poster

##vote: Palmar

I think that leaving votes on FT and just mucking about "maybe FT maybe not FT" is a bad way to spend this day (Just like it was a bad way for me to afk 24 hours of it). If we just chat about FT and argue about him, we're losing a day and I honestly think that's a mislynch. FT has done diddly in response to pressure, yes. It makes him look worse, yes. But I don't actually think he's scum, and even if he is, there are....other scum? It's more productive to chase other scum right now, imo, if that makes sense.

Solstice, keep posting.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#2614
For those that thought Koshi was a cop, Koshi almost certainly NOT a cop (or a super duper mega ultra cool cop).

When called out for being a cop by MULTIPLE players on D2, Koshi the Cop goes "OH SHIT MY COVER IS BLOWN IF SO MANY PEOPLE KNOW I'M COP THEN SCUM CERTAINLY KNOW CUZ THERE ARE 6 OF EM"

Cop Koshi then tries to play. Tries to give reads. Tries to influence the game. Because holy crap Cop Koshi is going to get GOT overnight with what we think is 3 KP available to scum.

Koshi did NOT play D2 that way. If you think Koshi is a cop, you're a silly goose, but in a way that's bad for town, not a fun silly goose. I would really <3 it if people who have townreads on the Koshisaurus would state explicitly, today, why they feel he townie. I don't think he is. Maybe he is, but I'd like to see these rationales, and I'd REALLY like to know if there's someone still going HE A COP HE A COP

(p.s. I actually find VE's insistence on Kop Koshi one thing that is scummy about him, because towards the end of the day it became super apparent that Koshi was not playing like an outed cop. VE didn't adjust that, hasn't spoken up on Koshi (or anything). I also don't put it past scumVE to finger someone as a cop, then not shoot them, just to be able to fall back on "If I were scum, we would have shot Koshi cuz he's a cop")
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