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On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town.
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who actually thinks he's lying as town though? There is very clear reasons for doing a complete 180 like he did. He doesn't have that much time then all of a sudden he has a shitload of time to post all this? nah.
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On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town.
Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES!
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and yes if WoS is scum he has been cracking recently, his play made sense up until today. not sure what is going on with him
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On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town. Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES! Well apparently if he is town, he says he found the perfect reason do it. I don't care if you think there's a big difference here Rayn. If he's scum, fine you're right it's not a fakeclaim. The point is there is a distinct POSSIBILITY that he is town fakeclaiming scum, and due to the precedent set by people like you and Mocsta, it IS a possibility. If people never fakeclaimed retarded shit or lied as town no one would even consider it. Did you ever think of that?
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On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town. Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES! Yeah in this light it seems ridiculous. If he were town planning to fake-claim, why not do so BEFORE posting the big ass post? Why not be like "Fuck okay this is too much you guys got me good job" and left it at that until today? Why go to the trouble of posting the reads, interact a bit, THEN go through with his fake-claim plan?
##Vote: ChairmanRay
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Fact remains I'm taking the 'right' play on this again. Occam's Razor. I'm not moving my vote. If we lose because of CR I'll be less pissed because he's new but more disappointed overall that we lost what was essentially a won game.
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It is a bit different WoS. It is different. If you fakeclaim to save someone getting lynched or to lynch someone you "know" (by this i mean -- you are really sure) is town/scum. That is different than claiming MAFIA during the night phase, when it does not help. Fuck, CR did not even have Pandain as a scumread and then his "reasoning" is "otherwise Koshi could have shot someone else than Pandain, like me". Guess what, no.
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Lying is lying Rayn. Pointless to get a bigger argument about it right now because it's not entirely relevant. People know what my stance on policy-lynchable stuff is.
Anyway, the situation is kind of hilarious because I remember thinking that CR could come back and do exactly this around the time I cam back with the Daypost but I forgot. Here's a question. Which scum member would be sufficiently 'I don't give a fuck' enough to let CR do this?
Essentially they either would have had to plan this from the start, or CR scumclaimed without consulting his buddy and now the buddy is freaking out saying 'NO. THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SAY/DO NOW. Gonna try and clean up your mess.'
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On October 09 2013 09:18 WaveofShadow wrote: Lying is lying Rayn. Pointless to get a bigger argument about it right now because it's not entirely relevant. People know what my stance on policy-lynchable stuff is.
Anyway, the situation is kind of hilarious because I remember thinking that CR could come back and do exactly this around the time I cam back with the Daypost but I forgot. Here's a question. Which scum member would be sufficiently 'I don't give a fuck' enough to let CR do this?
Essentially they either would have had to plan this from the start, or CR scumclaimed without consulting his buddy and now the buddy is freaking out saying 'NO. THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SAY/DO NOW. Gonna try and clean up your mess.' This is not correct. If i was scum with Solstice and CR i would have done the exact same thing on D4 ->. This is really good scumplay, really creative. I think Austin.
I explained it to VE earlier on if you read the post.
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WoS the answer to your question is pretty obvious dude, who has been trying to take my filter and make it scummy all game? lol nuff said.
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I like how you said that two members of a three-man scumteam claiming scum is good play, even as you sniff it out and lynch them in rapid succession.
Rayn your mind is ever a mystery.
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On October 09 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I like how you said that two members of a three-man scumteam claiming scum is good play, even as you sniff it out and lynch them in rapid succession.
Rayn your mind is ever a mystery. It would be. Except that it's not anymore when Koshi was a baller and shot Pandain.
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On October 09 2013 09:22 VayneAuthority wrote: WoS the answer to your question is pretty obvious dude, who has been trying to take my filter and make it scummy all game? lol nuff said. I've done it? Pandain did it. VE has done it. Umm....I'm pretty sure a lot of people have done it. Anyone specific in mind?
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On October 09 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town. Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES! Yeah in this light it seems ridiculous. If he were town planning to fake-claim, why not do so BEFORE posting the big ass post? Why not be like "Fuck okay this is too much you guys got me good job" and left it at that until today? Why go to the trouble of posting the reads, interact a bit, THEN go through with his fake-claim plan? ##Vote: ChairmanRay
I fake claimed as a response to getting pressured by mafia so I could prevent myself from being shot by cop. I wouldn't need to if I didn't get the pressure. I had it planned to do it for a while now, but if I do it when there's no reason to, it just looks really stupid and I doubt anyone would fall for it.
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On October 09 2013 09:58 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town. Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES! Yeah in this light it seems ridiculous. If he were town planning to fake-claim, why not do so BEFORE posting the big ass post? Why not be like "Fuck okay this is too much you guys got me good job" and left it at that until today? Why go to the trouble of posting the reads, interact a bit, THEN go through with his fake-claim plan? ##Vote: ChairmanRay I fake claimed as a response to getting pressured by mafia so I could prevent myself from being shot by cop. I wouldn't need to if I didn't get the pressure. I had it planned to do it for a while now, but if I do it when there's no reason to, it just looks really stupid and I doubt anyone would fall for it. So here's a question. Why exactly would you not want to get shot by the cop?
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Good WaveofShadow. Good. You get townie points.
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On October 09 2013 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Good WaveofShadow. Good. You get townie points. I don't need your charity. I AM A SELF MADE MAN
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On October 09 2013 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 09:58 Chairman Ray wrote:On October 09 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 09 2013 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:53 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 09 2013 08:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not even read what you wrote because if you fakeclaimed scum it's beyond stupid. You very well know what is wise and what is not as you have played in the clusterfuck Noire. He's just taking a page out of YOUR book, Rayn. Do you see what kind of precedent you set? I may have fakeclaimed, but i do not claim fucking scum! If you claim scum it affects people's reads. Also nobody will ever trust you again in this game. That's all you get for claiming scum as town. There is no way anyone should ever claim scum as town "to not get shot" or "to get someone else shot". This is fucking bullshit. I don't really see a difference. You don't think the more you do it, that people aren't going to be able to trust anything YOU say because you're setting up some retarded trap? This is the perfect example of why you don't fucking lie as town. Holy shit WoS, are you scum? Seriously. You put fakeclaiming and lying as town in the same category of claiming scum, when there are zero advantages to do so as town. Dude says he has a big post of reads. "Post it". Takes an hour, apparently he typed the post up there. Pressure on. Cracks under pressure. What's next. HE DECIDES THAT HIS BEST CHANCE AS TOWN TO HELP THE TOWN IS TO CLAIM SCUM! ROFLSKATES! Yeah in this light it seems ridiculous. If he were town planning to fake-claim, why not do so BEFORE posting the big ass post? Why not be like "Fuck okay this is too much you guys got me good job" and left it at that until today? Why go to the trouble of posting the reads, interact a bit, THEN go through with his fake-claim plan? ##Vote: ChairmanRay I fake claimed as a response to getting pressured by mafia so I could prevent myself from being shot by cop. I wouldn't need to if I didn't get the pressure. I had it planned to do it for a while now, but if I do it when there's no reason to, it just looks really stupid and I doubt anyone would fall for it. So here's a question. Why exactly would you not want to get shot by the cop?
We had 10 people left. Mafia has up to 3KP. If 3 town dies, and I get shot by cop. That leaves 3-2-1. If town then gets lynched, town loses. If you lynch the one banger, then town loses at night since it goes down to 2-2-0 after the kill. If you lynch the other scum team, then it goes to 3-1-1, and after 2 KP, it goes to 1-1-1, and then town loses. I had to do something drastic to make sure that this doesn't happen.
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On October 09 2013 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Good WaveofShadow. Good. You get townie points. I don't need your charity. I AM A SELF MADE MAN <3
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