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On October 09 2013 05:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:28 austinmcc wrote:On October 09 2013 05:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 09 2013 05:25 austinmcc wrote:
rayn.
Does a team of CR/solstice/ANYONE make sense to you? What does the third player in that team have anything to do with who decided it was a good idea out 2 scum members in 2 days? Do you envision the third player in that team being the leader? Wait austin why did you include yourself in that scumteam list? lol Shouldn't that be solstice? YES THAT SHOULD BE ME/CR I AM GOOD WITH NAMES THIS GAME So I don't understand. Are we somehow supposed to believe you wouldn't bus CR, the inactive superlurk? I knwo you made all these arguments about your push and how long you were doing it and whatnot, but it's not out of the question imo. It's not out of the question, no. But it's SOMETHING to think about, and I can point to a boatload of posts here.
In my mind, at least when confronted with "I don't see CC/CR/solstice" without any explanation why, with rayn ending up implying I'm the remaining mafia, then rayn should be giving some explanation why I fit better than CC or VA or a host or anything.
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On October 09 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
I was sure about it until you brought up the fact that CR pushing me doesn't mean anything, seems like you tried to leave a door open. don't like it.
It doesn't mean anything. It's CR. I mean, I can go through his filter later if you;'d like but I don't really view anything he did this game as indicative right off the bat.
And I fucking missed my 9k and 9k1 post spamming in this game.
800 post game g fucking g.
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On October 09 2013 05:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
I was sure about it until you brought up the fact that CR pushing me doesn't mean anything, seems like you tried to leave a door open. don't like it. It doesn't mean anything. It's CR. I mean, I can go through his filter later if you;'d like but I don't really view anything he did this game as indicative right off the bat. And I fucking missed my 9k and 9k1 post spamming in this game. 800 post game g fucking g.
go back and look at our interactions. if you conclude "scum team" from that you are fucking insane dude.
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Vayne CR is insane. In D2 CR makes a case against Vayne and he instantly SMASHES it to the ground!
Impossible.
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On October 09 2013 05:33 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 09 2013 05:25 austinmcc wrote:
rayn.
Does a team of CR/austinmcc/ANYONE make sense to you? if it doesn't make sense for you/CR then can you agree I am not scum? if you can't I am lynching you. and austin do you agree with this or not? very important really. Binding contract. No, I don't. Because it's ridiculous. Here's why:
My argument is that me pounding away on CR means I'm not associated with him. You're saying that because CR attacked you, you're not associated with him.
I would argue that I've been CLEARLY on scum CR for a while, and trying to get others around to that. CR, whoever and whatever he suspected, has not been pushing anything, has not actually been pushing to get you lynched. So the two are different.
Also, IF you're town, here's your thought process:
(1) austinmcc attacked CR
(2) CR attacked me
(3) I'm town
(4) austinmcc says he probably not scum with CR because he attacked him
(5) therefore, austinmcc should believe that I'm not scum with CR
(6) if he does not, he's mafia
But....if that's your actual thought process, then you should ALSO have this one:
(1) austinmcc attacked CR
(2) CR attacked me
(3) I'm town
(4) I'm not associated with CR, in part, because he attacked me
(5) therefore, I should believe that austinmcc isn't scum with CR
Like...you either believe in association or you don't. If you BELIEVE that you should NOT be associated with CR, then you also believe I shouldn't be. So whether or not I think you should be associated with CR, you wouldn't be making threats like this. Essentially, you're trying to say you'd lynch me for being inconsistent, when doing so would also be inconsistent on your part.
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In the end it just all points back to austin. nobody mentioned s0lstice and CR more then austin this entire game, not even close... if he flips town then I need to do a long re-read of the game but until then its austin
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K this has to be my last post for a bit, I have shit to do.
7 players left.
5-2 atm.
After lynch it's 5-1, and after NK it's 4-1 (unless they still have driveby or someone still has vest or something to mess with things)
So possibilities for the next day:
5-1 (if no driveby and vest )
4-1 (if no vest or driveby+vest)
3-1 (if driveby + no vest)
The absolute worst case scenario puts us at MAYBE MYLO (assuming no vests)
Best case scenario or even the most likely scenario (4-1 imo) is we can afford a mislynch. We might really only have to narrow it down to 2. Depending on how next night goes.
Let's think on that a little imo.
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Suddenly Austin's D4 "let's not lynch into the cops and kill this last MCB who is btw 100% CR" looks even much more terribad than it did before..
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On October 09 2013 05:39 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 05:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 09 2013 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 09 2013 05:25 austinmcc wrote:
rayn.
Does a team of CR/austinmcc/ANYONE make sense to you? if it doesn't make sense for you/CR then can you agree I am not scum? if you can't I am lynching you. and austin do you agree with this or not? very important really. Binding contract. No, I don't. Because it's ridiculous. Here's why: My argument is that me pounding away on CR means I'm not associated with him. You're saying that because CR attacked you, you're not associated with him. I would argue that I've been CLEARLY on scum CR for a while, and trying to get others around to that. CR, whoever and whatever he suspected, has not been pushing anything, has not actually been pushing to get you lynched. So the two are different. Also, IF you're town, here's your thought process: (1) austinmcc attacked CR (2) CR attacked me (3) I'm town (4) austinmcc says he probably not scum with CR because he attacked him (5) therefore, austinmcc should believe that I'm not scum with CR (6) if he does not, he's mafia But....if that's your actual thought process, then you should ALSO have this one: (1) austinmcc attacked CR (2) CR attacked me (3) I'm town (4) I'm not associated with CR, in part, because he attacked me (5) therefore, I should believe that austinmcc isn't scum with CR Like...you either believe in association or you don't. If you BELIEVE that you should NOT be associated with CR, then you also believe I shouldn't be. So whether or not I think you should be associated with CR, you wouldn't be making threats like this. Essentially, you're trying to say you'd lynch me for being inconsistent, when doing so would also be inconsistent on your part.
ok yea he's scum thats all I needed thank you.
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On October 09 2013 05:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
In the end it just all points back to austin. nobody mentioned s0lstice and CR more then austin this entire game, not even close... if he flips town then I need to do a long re-read of the game but until then its austin Yup. I mentioned them. As scumreads or suspicions. Look how they flipped.
CR's D2 post makes you less likely to be with him. Doesn't make it impossible. Just pandain flipping scum adds a chance for you to be town. But if you think it 100% clears you, then you'd be arguing that as we cleared. So right now, we're both in the same spot...doesn't 100% clear the other person, but adds some questions and reduces likelihood.
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On October 09 2013 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Suddenly Austin's D4 "let's not lynch into the cops and kill this last MCB who is btw 100% CR" looks even much more terribad than it did before.. I initially thought this was true, but...is it?
If I'm supposed to be their third teammate, is there a difference to me between killing solstice or CR? Like, you're arguing I'm mafia because I suggested we kill one DRB over another. Is there a reason for me to do that as DRB? In either case, town lynches mafia, and town lynches my teammate.
And if they lynch CR, my teammate, and solstice has claimed cop, he's outed and 100% dead.
So what you're arguing is that I'd try to get town to lynch my other scumbuddy, when solstice was going to die due to claim, and that.....this would be a good thing for scumaustin?
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actually this game is a lot easier then I realized. Mr.CC has had a townread on me the entire game, if he ever changes that at some point lynch him. If he is cool with never lynching me then he's town obviously unless I die at night.
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and F U to grack for messing with my grack/pandain/palmar killed BH thing, why so troll
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VA, the biggest thing in your favor based on the flips isn't you and CR being on a team, it's the people that got got.
I honestly expected to see shots at 2-3 of Koshi/VE/WoS. That leaves scum and people trying to push a mislynch on me, whether you're town or scum.
The fact that those WEREN'T the kills means that I'm not being set up as much as I think, and increases the chances of CC over you, because the kill went on OATS. Oats getting killed ensures maximum pissing match between you/people who think you're town and me/people who think i'm town/might be town.
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On October 09 2013 06:01 austinmcc wrote:
VA, the biggest thing in your favor based on the flips isn't you and CR being on a team, it's the people that got got.
I honestly expected to see shots at 2-3 of Koshi/VE/WoS. That leaves scum and people trying to push a mislynch on me, whether you're town or scum.
The fact that those WEREN'T the kills means that I'm not being set up as much as I think, and increases the chances of CC over you, because the kill went on OATS. Oats getting killed ensures maximum pissing match between you/people who think you're town and me/people who think i'm town/might be town.
Logic is flawed - no one is being setup for lynch today because CR is the lynch today regardless what happens.
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Or at least, I read more into that than you/CR. ymmv, but i DO see oats's death as an attempt to clog the thread with each of us trying to poop on the other. He wasn't doing anything, could have been the shot just because he was guaranteed not to be protected, but taking out the least involved confirmed guy indicates that scum weren't super super threatened by everyone else's spamming.
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You know who's sitting in the middle of the Vayne/Austin dichotomy and is still not confirmed town though? Wave.
It's gonna be a long day.
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On October 09 2013 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2013 06:01 austinmcc wrote:
VA, the biggest thing in your favor based on the flips isn't you and CR being on a team, it's the people that got got.
I honestly expected to see shots at 2-3 of Koshi/VE/WoS. That leaves scum and people trying to push a mislynch on me, whether you're town or scum.
The fact that those WEREN'T the kills means that I'm not being set up as much as I think, and increases the chances of CC over you, because the kill went on OATS. Oats getting killed ensures maximum pissing match between you/people who think you're town and me/people who think i'm town/might be town. Logic is flawed - no one is being setup for lynch today because CR is the lynch today regardless what happens. Yaya. It doesn't say today.
But scum could have eliminated a side of the debate, or tried to, and then we'd lynch CR without anyone really giving reads on him, so the topic of discussion would be either how much VA or I was scum, without much in the way of rebuttal.
Instead, both sides up and oats gone. Indicates that scum is fine with another day of argument, rather than just piling on one side, and that they don't care who would eventually get lynched betwixt the two of us.
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I don't see WoS. I see strong arguments for both austin/Mr.CC though. Could be either.
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I would do CC first over austin. 2 scum claiming scum stanks of big plays, and CC outting his scum partner falls in line with that kind of thinking imo.
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