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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On September 30 2013 00:40 Palmar wrote: Probably Town Koshi - Probably town, if scum he played getting hit by the RNG pretty well. VisceraEyes - Keep an eye out on how much of a leadership role he takes. He was very townie early on in day 1, but I'm somewhat unsure how much of a role he truly played in the yamato lynch. I need to re-read. If he starts fading into the background reconsider, but for now town. Oatsmaster - Confrontational and an asshole, completely useless too, so that kinda fits him being town Blazinghand - Probably town, needs to be more in the forefront. WaveofShadow - Too active, too free-flowing and engages easily with people to be scum. Pandain - His case was ok. If he keeps trying he's town. Pandain is awful as scum anyway so he'll fuck up sooner or later if he is. Haven't analysed/read at all: Chairman Ray Mr. Cheesecake VayneAuthority austinmcc Only done a quick read/null: strongandbig - if I die he's less likely (only slightly) to be scum (unlikely his scumteam would shoot me after he spends time creating a case on me), but I have no idea really, I think his case was wrong because of bads, not because of malicious. ShiaoPi - One of the best candidates for re-reading. He hasn't done anything worth noting all game, at least that I noticed. I'm going to look into him when I have time. raynpelikoneet - Don't really know. Grackaroni - Again, read some, no conclusion Scummy people hiro protagonist - His start was awfully conservative. I still haven't spent time looking at his later posts, but yeah. RebirthOfLeGenD - Said he'd catch up, didn't. FirmTofu - See my earlier analysis. Haven't paid attention to him since. This was Palmar's big reads post. Posting it for my benefit. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not holier than anyone. I trust rayn because he's confirmed. You're not confirmed and I found ample reason to be suspicious of you after looking in your filter. But sure, if you want to fuck off to prove some sort of point by all means - you know I'm not gonna judge you, as that's one of my signature moves. I'm not proving any point. You say you only want to bother talking shit through with Rayn as though just the two of you putting your heads together is going to be enough, then that's fine. Maybe I'm partially pissed that I still have people thinking I'm scum despite being the most active person in this game, though considering nothing has gone the way I expected it to this game, I suppose I half-expected it. THe fact remains VE, that I want town to win. And if you lynch me tomorrow, you won't. Drop the association cases, because all of that shit has equivalent town explanation. I have been doing nothing but attempting to help solve this game right from the get go. I have been nothing but forthcoming and transparent with all of my reads, thought processes, and actions. I have not LIED about anything in this game. I have a massive fucking filter WITHOUT any inconsistency. Show me how I am scum. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
You ignored my evidence that FT was town, have he weirdest relationship with Vayne ever, do have inconsistencies and haven't ever definitively helped town. There are five unconfirmed and you are the most suspicious. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Let's talk simple-case scenarios. You know, like the Solstice one, where late fakeclaim = scum. Have you ever seen a scum member with a filter 10 FUCKING PAGES longer than the second highest person in any game? Pretty simple imo. As far as who scum are, fuck trying to figure out Bangers v other guys 'cause the association cases and everyone's theories have sucked the big one thus far. I'm thinking Pandain/Austin and either CR or VA. My reads have been shit this game but I'm still going to fucking try. Oh and that's another thing. If I was scum why would I purposefully get EVERY FUCKING READ WRONG and not try to get ANY towncred whatsoever? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I was actually going to push CC but maybe I'll push you now | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:19 Pandain wrote: What happened to not believing association when it came to FT and SnB? You ignored my evidence that FT was town, have he weirdest relationship with Vayne ever, do have inconsistencies and haven't ever definitively helped town. There are five unconfirmed and you are the most suspicious. The association betwen SnB and FT was just something I threw on top of my original case. The icing on the case, if you will. It was not that main basis for my scumread on him, whereas everyone's association with Palmar or me saying SnB is 'dropping bombs' is apparently enough for people to assume I'm scum. Vayne understands my relationship with him completely. Anyone who has played a game with Vayne understands it. You are new to him, so I disregard your opinion on that ocmpletely. Show me inconsistencies and I will show you how they're wrong. I haven't ever helped town? Fuck you Pandain. I pushed for you to get modkilled last game after I was dead because you played dirty. Don't you DARE try to misrepresent all of the effort I have put in for this town. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
The fact of the matter is that the rest of this game is going to be difficult, and I'm trying to explore ALL options. I made a post that explains why I think you're more likely Banger than CR and Pandain. If I'm wrong then fine, but at least I know that I was wrong after reading and coming to my own conclusion. Association is HOW you find mafia, so no I'm not going to just 'drop the association cases' because that's fucking dumb. If you think they should hold less weight, then that's your prerogative. Right now we have three flipped scum, so I'm going to look through their filters and the filters of everyone in the game to see how they all line up because that's how the fucking game is played. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
hard defending each other this entire game and both tunneling me. 2 scum left. interesting | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:22 Pandain wrote: I mean you just claimed town cred through activity it would be dumb to bus when you don't need to. I was actually going to push CC but maybe I'll push you now I"M FUCKING TERRIFIED | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Why did you not try to get others to vote for Vayne. Why haven't you been helping guide blue actions or give advic. We'll start with that | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote: funny that you bring up weird relationships....cough pandain/austin cough hard defending each other this entire game and both tunneling me. 2 scum left. interesting There are three scum left. Not quite as interesting as you thought, maybe. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote: (3 scum left. It's 2 other than you funny that you bring up weird relationships....cough pandain/austin cough hard defending each other this entire game and both tunneling me. 2 scum left. interesting  ) | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I specifically asked for Rayn's input because he's confirmed town. When Austin gave me his input, yes, I joked that I didn't want it...but I then went on to discuss CR with him. Did you skip that part? Or were you just looking for something to discredit me with? Or what? The fact of the matter is that the rest of this game is going to be difficult, and I'm trying to explore ALL options. I made a post that explains why I think you're more likely Banger than CR and Pandain. If I'm wrong then fine, but at least I know that I was wrong after reading and coming to my own conclusion. Association is HOW you find mafia, so no I'm not going to just 'drop the association cases' because that's fucking dumb. If you think they should hold less weight, then that's your prerogative. Right now we have three flipped scum, so I'm going to look through their filters and the filters of everyone in the game to see how they all line up because that's how the fucking game is played. Then at least have the common decency to bring it to me as well without telling me that you're not going to consider what people have to say. Like Oats or Koshi, for example (not that I necessarily blame you on that front lololol). CR honestly doesn't give a shit this game. Period. Thinking about it now, I might up him on my scumlist. CR/Pandain and one of Austin/VA. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:24 Pandain wrote: Why do you have a town read on Vayne and of ignoring when you said he was 100% scum. Why did you not try to get others to vote for Vayne. Why haven't you been helping guide blue actions or give advic. We'll start with that Where is my townread on Vayne? SHow me. Pandain. Are you honestly insinuating I got no one to try and vote for Vayne WHEN I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO FUCKING DO SO ON D1. If you're trying to get me to tunnel you, good work. You're going down tomorrow. Vayne, scum or town, help me lynch this fucker. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
WoS calm down its a game, I've noticed your playing suspicious and I'm sharing my points, you bringing up past games in which I've already apologized doesn't relate to this. I'm saying you have done no action this game which definitively helped town. Didn't help lynch Vayne or Palmar. Tried to lynch FT. Haven't really been helping atmosphere These are my views that you can address | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:28 Pandain wrote: I haven't defended Austin I just think he's more likely town. I've put suspicion on him though not much because he is putting way too much effort into the game, though that doesn't preclude him. WoS calm down its a game, I've noticed your playing suspicious and I'm sharing my points, you bringing up past games in which I've already apologized doesn't relate to this. I'm saying you have done no action this game which definitively helped town. Didn't help lynch Vayne or Palmar. Tried to lynch FT. Haven't really been helping atmosphere These are my views that you can address I am addressing all of it, and it is fucking biased. Just because I didn't vote for the proper candidates has nothing to do with how much I have or haven't helped. I have been constantly discussing and interrogating. I have been doing my fucking utmost to help town win this game, and it honestly insults to my core that you misrepresent me so much as to say that I have not done anything to help. Just because I haven't been right doesn't mean I haven't helped, or at the very least FUCKING TRIED. I don't care if people think I am faking emotion right now I am fucking FURIOUS at you because it is a flat out LIE. Does anyone else agree with that? Fuck the other stuff, arguments can me made either way, fine, I accept. I can defend myself against that other stuff np. But to say that I have done nothing to help,, and that (aside from D1) actually hindered the town due to atmosphere? Fuck that. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On October 08 2013 09:28 Pandain wrote: I haven't defended Austin I just think he's more likely town. I've put suspicion on him though not much because he is putting way too much effort into the game, though that doesn't preclude him. WoS calm down its a game, I've noticed your playing suspicious and I'm sharing my points, you bringing up past games in which I've already apologized doesn't relate to this. I'm saying you have done no action this game which definitively helped town. Didn't help lynch Vayne or Palmar. Tried to lynch FT. Haven't really been helping atmosphere These are my views that you can address Oh and for the record, considering your usage of tactics, trying to make me rage out so you can easily mislynch me is definitely a scum tactic I can see you making use of. Just fucking LOW. I am no Geript, and I am no VE (sorry dude). I will not fucking give up on this town. | ||
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