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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 15:54 GMT
#4601
comb=cop
ATOBTTR
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#4602
If someone claims cop and you are the real cop, you counter-claim him and get him killed. As been said, you hosted Noire where town fucked up with CCing. That's simple, you cc. Period. You didn't, you only claimed when you had to. You are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 15:57 GMT
#4603
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 15:59 GMT
#4604
I've been a dumb cop before Solstice.
I had to claim real early and even had scum trying to paint my claim as fake.
But the dumb stuff I did (and this was my third or 4th mafia game ever) wasn't anything like this.

I have to just keep repeating the mantra to myself to get me through another 4 hours.

Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 16:00 GMT
#4605
On October 08 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.

Are you suggesting we lynch Pandain today then? There are quite a few people who want the last MCB dead.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 07 2013 16:01 GMT
#4606
On October 08 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.
I got burnt out last night, but in my head I still like pandain not-MCB, and CR probably MCB.
Fe fi fo fum.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 16:03 GMT
#4607
On October 08 2013 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If someone claims cop and you are the real cop, you counter-claim him and get him killed. As been said, you hosted Noire where town fucked up with CCing. That's simple, you cc. Period. You didn't, you only claimed when you had to. You are scum.


I'm gonna tell you again, I've played cop exactly zero times. Blue exactly zero times except PTP where everyone was blueish.

In one of my newbie games this EXACT THING happened. grush claimed cop as town. The real cop did not claim until much later because he just wasnt sure wtf to do. This happens rayn.
ATOBTTR
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:03 GMT
#4608
Let's look at this:
Living players:
Koshi, VisceraEyes, Mr. Cheesecake, Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, Chairman Ray, WaveofShadow, VayneAuthority, austinmcc, Pandain, s0lstice

Koshi has confirmed me/VE/Oats. That leaves;
Solstice, austin, WoS, VA, CR, Pandain, Mr.CC

Three of those are scum.
You have to have an educated guess on three people, who to contact, what kinda response do you get (maybe they team with you, maybe not), how to proceed. When the scumteam of three people left has all the alignments clear, the game becomes much easier for them, even if they lose on player. Who to push, what to expect to happen. In this gmae scum do not have all the information and situations change.

That's also why Pandain is scum, he reacts to situation changes in a different way than townies do. His reads change for no real reasoning based purely on what happened the last night and what players flipped. Townies keep their story straight, Pandain doesn't.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#4609
On October 08 2013 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've been a dumb cop before Solstice.
I had to claim real early and even had scum trying to paint my claim as fake.
But the dumb stuff I did (and this was my third or 4th mafia game ever) wasn't anything like this.

I have to just keep repeating the mantra to myself to get me through another 4 hours.

Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.
Occam's Razor.


That's because this game is very very atypical. two scum teams in a mini. of course it wouldn't resemble what your past experiences are.
ATOBTTR
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:04 GMT
#4610
On October 08 2013 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:44 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys you are looking it the wrong way.

We do not know what motivation Solstice had to contact Mr.CC. But it doesn't matter. What matters is that when he DID contact him, he HAD to claim cop because that was his only option.

Also he did not counter-claim Koshi in the first place, and let him run around "confirming" townies. That's all the evidence we need. He is mafia.
He did NOT have to claim cop.

He had the option of saying CC was lying.

Yes but if you fight against Mr.CC rather than Koshi, the cop is confirmed and so are the townies.
Solstice the MCB doesn't care.

He's one man. He's all alone, like VE was with the bear earlier.

You're saying that solstice, as the last man on his scumteam, would go for the play where he puts suspicion on koshi's townies for a day BUT GETS 1000000% KILLED.

He absolutely loses if he goes for this play.

If he calls out cc, he fights against cc rather than koshi, has confirmed townies lying around, but he doesn't 100000% die.

If he's the one-man team, not 10000% dying is better than having a harder lategame.

Solstice is from the 3 man team. Pandain is the last banger dude.

Are you suggesting we lynch Pandain today then? There are quite a few people who want the last MCB dead.

No i want Koshi to shoot Pandain for what i said earlier. It makes the game again easier for us.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#4611
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:08 GMT
#4612
So Solstice, why didn't you discuss Koshi's multiple soft fakeclaims on N2? Did you both miss them?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:09 GMT
#4613
On October 08 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.

Vayne is cool. He's been consistent the whole game. He writed good posts and his train of thought has been solid the whole game. He's pretty likely town.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 16:10 GMT
#4614
On October 08 2013 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.

Vayne is cool. He's been consistent the whole game. He writed good posts and his train of thought has been solid the whole game. He's pretty likely town.

Ehhhhhh I'd be real careful with that.
Have you seen scumVayne?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 07 2013 16:10 GMT
#4615
Wrong answer S0lstice. Also rayns option was not available in the S0lstice is a cop world.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:11 GMT
#4616
Also Austin pretty much has to be mafia with Solstice. If Pandain is the last banger then CC is town, If Pandain is in team with them CC could be the last banger.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:12 GMT
#4617
On October 08 2013 01:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright so then you and I are on the same page, at least regarding today/Solstice.

I seem to remember Vayne being on that page as well, though I'm slightly disconcerted with his fucking off for the day.

Vayne is cool. He's been consistent the whole game. He writed good posts and his train of thought has been solid the whole game. He's pretty likely town.

Ehhhhhh I'd be real careful with that.
Have you seen scumVayne?

Yes, Vayne does stuff that gives him away as scum. He's wishy-washy about lynches and shit. It's true that he could be scum but i highly doubt. As scum he is active and uses other people's credit as his own (in lynches and shit). I don't see it here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2013 16:14 GMT
#4618
Also there is zero reason why Vayne would discuss what happened during the night as scum. Right or wrong, it does not help his team. He loves NK analysis as town though.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 16:15 GMT
#4619
On October 08 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Austin pretty much has to be mafia with Solstice. If Pandain is the last banger then CC is town, If Pandain is in team with them CC could be the last banger.

I thought this too, sorta, but I don't think they necessarily need to be on the same team. Essentially If they are on same team, it's way more suspicious of Austin to be hardcore soft-defending solstice all day by trying to move the lynch. If different teams then he knows his method won't do anything, he can say whatever he wants, opposite scum still gets lynched and Austin gets an A for effort.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 07 2013 16:15 GMT
#4620
On October 08 2013 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also there is zero reason why Vayne would discuss what happened during the night as scum. Right or wrong, it does not help his team. He loves NK analysis as town though.

He does it as scum too if I remember correctly.
Gonna go look at Les Mis.
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