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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#4441
I have some and am watching, amused.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2013 02:07 GMT
#4442
On October 07 2013 10:57 s0Lstice wrote:
dear Oats

I'm going to suspend my beliefs for a moment.

Your main problem with my claim is that it doesn't check out emotionally. Like, I haven't been mad or bouncing off the walls? Do I have this correct?

And that koshi's claim makes far more sense balance-wise and the way he has been behaving.

You better take a trip to Jurassic Park s0lstice, I heard they had these cool eggs and shit. YOU MIGHT GET TO TAKE HOME YOUR VERY OWN DINOSAUR!!!!
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 07 2013 02:07 GMT
#4443
Eat some popcorn and read about why people can/can't/shouldn't be MCB.

Then tell me whether you agree or not.

Please?

If nothing else, do it cuz I say you aren't, and cuz we were scumbros just a little while ago.
Fe fi fo fum.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:08 GMT
#4444
On October 07 2013 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 10:57 s0Lstice wrote:
dear Oats

I'm going to suspend my beliefs for a moment.

Your main problem with my claim is that it doesn't check out emotionally. Like, I haven't been mad or bouncing off the walls? Do I have this correct?

And that koshi's claim makes far more sense balance-wise and the way he has been behaving.

You better take a trip to Jurassic Park s0lstice, I heard they had these cool eggs and shit. YOU MIGHT GET TO TAKE HOME YOUR VERY OWN DINOSAUR!!!!


Can you be more specific?

About the first. I know a lot about dinosaurs so skip that.
ATOBTTR
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2013 02:16 GMT
#4445
Well, Hiro and Koshi makes way more sense to me than RoL and Hiro.
Also RoL didnt even play the game, I wouldve thought he would be more excited with a blue role.


Koshi has been cop-like and you havent.
I dunno how to explain the behavior thing, it makes sense to me though.
No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:20 GMT
#4446
On October 07 2013 11:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well, Hiro and Koshi makes way more sense to me than RoL and Hiro.
Also RoL didnt even play the game, I wouldve thought he would be more excited with a blue role.


Koshi has been cop-like and you havent.
I dunno how to explain the behavior thing, it makes sense to me though.


RoL said it was about the current very spammy metagame we have here on TL. He loses motivation to keep up, regardless of alignment.

What do you think about Koshi doing like nothing at all with the town cred, even after being outed? His effort has been 'X is scum the end.' Or, 'I don't really have any scumreads tbh.' This makes you not at all nervous that he has basically been coasting?
ATOBTTR
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 02:23 GMT
#4447
Pandain or CR makes sense for last banger, totes.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2013 02:23 GMT
#4448
Well it seems like you have issues with his playstyle, cause from what I know, He does the same thing every game.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 07 2013 02:24 GMT
#4449
On October 07 2013 11:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pandain or CR makes sense for last banger, totes.
And do the other players make sense for NOT the last?
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 02:27 GMT
#4450
hell idk austin, YOU could be the last one.

Although effort indicates you are town. S0lstice probably isnt alone or he'd have rolled over and died by now. I'm town. WoS i guess could be last but I've kinda liked his play most of the game. VA... probably not.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:28 GMT
#4451
On October 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well it seems like you have issues with his playstyle, cause from what I know, He does the same thing every game.


I would say thats a mischaracterization. in Koshi's town games he has been fully capable of making reads, explaining them, and pushing them when he's being listened to. Here he is a claimed cop with everyone's ear and doesn't seem particularly interested in doing anything with it.

What do you think of how he explained the weird inconsistencies in his treatment of Vayne that austin pointed out?
ATOBTTR
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 07 2013 02:29 GMT
#4452
On October 07 2013 11:28 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 11:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Well it seems like you have issues with his playstyle, cause from what I know, He does the same thing every game.


I would say thats a mischaracterization. in Koshi's town games he has been fully capable of making reads, explaining them, and pushing them when he's being listened to. Here he is a claimed cop with everyone's ear and doesn't seem particularly interested in doing anything with it.

What do you think of how he explained the weird inconsistencies in his treatment of Vayne that austin pointed out?

I didnt really notice that part? link please?
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 07 2013 02:30 GMT
#4453
Fe fi fo fum.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:33 GMT
#4454
On October 06 2013 13:31 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 13:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Austin are you considering he is the real cop -.-
Also, yes. I'm considering it.

I had a scumread on koshi earlier. I specifically noted that his play after soft-claiming was odd for cop. His play after hard-claiming hasn't really looked more cop-ish.

And today, he made some WEIRD posts that caught my eye but I dismissed:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
that is why that was a horrible shot koshi. I expected better tbh!

I did it all for you. You said Oats was last banger D:

I shot oats cuz VA said he was MCB
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 05:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh ok. then I guess the question is do you get notified if RB'd

I did the action. I wasnt RB.

It is interesting that you know bulletproof vest costs 0,5 kp VA.

The KP comment is basically a "maybe you're scum for knowing the cost of scum items"
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Still sad that I didnt get last banger.

##vote: Pandain

You sure about your pandain read VA? 48 hours.to convince us all.
I trust rayn to be right.as.well anyway.
But right after being unsure, asks VA if he's sure on pandain and is voting pandain

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.
Now back to doesn't know whassup. Despite just asking if he's sure about his read. Who cares if VA is sure on his read if Koshi doesn't know how to read VA right now?

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi can you explain to me succinctly why you think VA is town?

Because he pretends to have figured out the game or be close to figure out since the start of the game. While he hasn't. I assocciate this behaviour with town vayne. There are more thingies like that. I am like on 65% town.

Need to lynch Pandain if he doesnt play the day 4 of his life.
When asked why VA is town, Koshi gives reasons he thinks VA is town. Then says he's 65% on VA = town.

ALSO SAYS THAT VA IS TOWN BECAUSE VA THINKS HE HAS FIGURED OUT THE GAME BUT REALLY HASN'T. YET IS STILL ASKING VA WHETHER VA TRUSTS HIS READ. IF VA TRUSTS HIS READ ON PANDAIN AND KOSHI THINKS VA IS TOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE KNOWS SHIZ BUT HE DON'T KNOW SHIZ THEN KOSHI SHOULDN'T BE VOTING PANDAIN.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:46 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:41 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at

oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3
On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy
CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects.

Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do?

You vote pandain.

You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable.

And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday:
On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum.

Is sillypants.

IF by some miracle you're town:
(1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice
(2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"?



you're bad if you are town again, reminds me of nuclear. You always try to make town lose for whatever reason
How are you the mislynch of choice? You're not being lynched. You're in third place.

Do you DISAGREE that oats was being set up as a mislynch?


yes I do. once CR spoke up about me only then is when pandain started hard pushing me, so it was either pre meditated or scum team is abusing a newbie which is pretty despicable.

From yesterday I was going to have

CR vote, pandain vote, VE vote, potentially your vote it looks like? and WoS could easily just say "YES POLICY LYNCH TIME"

that's already 5 votes.

It was going to be Oats over you tbh. You might have been wagon 2 together with Padain. I was paying attention on who was the prime lynch candidate.
I need to revisit the argumens made early night one about either WoS or Oats being last banger. But too tired atm.
He shot the dude's scumread. Isn't super sure how to read him. etc. etc. But VA might have been a #2 lynch the next day. Maybe.







His response:

On October 07 2013 03:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 13:31 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 13:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Austin are you considering he is the real cop -.-
Also, yes. I'm considering it.

I had a scumread on koshi earlier. I specifically noted that his play after soft-claiming was odd for cop. His play after hard-claiming hasn't really looked more cop-ish.

And today, he made some WEIRD posts that caught my eye but I dismissed:
On October 06 2013 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
that is why that was a horrible shot koshi. I expected better tbh!

I did it all for you. You said Oats was last banger D:

I shot oats cuz VA said he was MCB
On October 06 2013 05:53 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh ok. then I guess the question is do you get notified if RB'd

I did the action. I wasnt RB.

It is interesting that you know bulletproof vest costs 0,5 kp VA.

The KP comment is basically a "maybe you're scum for knowing the cost of scum items"
On October 06 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Still sad that I didnt get last banger.

##vote: Pandain

You sure about your pandain read VA? 48 hours.to convince us all.
I trust rayn to be right.as.well anyway.
But right after being unsure, asks VA if he's sure on pandain and is voting pandain

On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote:
I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread.
But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm.
Now back to doesn't know whassup. Despite just asking if he's sure about his read. Who cares if VA is sure on his read if Koshi doesn't know how to read VA right now?

On October 06 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi can you explain to me succinctly why you think VA is town?

Because he pretends to have figured out the game or be close to figure out since the start of the game. While he hasn't. I assocciate this behaviour with town vayne. There are more thingies like that. I am like on 65% town.

Need to lynch Pandain if he doesnt play the day 4 of his life.
When asked why VA is town, Koshi gives reasons he thinks VA is town. Then says he's 65% on VA = town.

ALSO SAYS THAT VA IS TOWN BECAUSE VA THINKS HE HAS FIGURED OUT THE GAME BUT REALLY HASN'T. YET IS STILL ASKING VA WHETHER VA TRUSTS HIS READ. IF VA TRUSTS HIS READ ON PANDAIN AND KOSHI THINKS VA IS TOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE KNOWS SHIZ BUT HE DON'T KNOW SHIZ THEN KOSHI SHOULDN'T BE VOTING PANDAIN.

On October 06 2013 07:56 Koshi wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:46 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 07:41 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at

oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3
On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy
CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects.

Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do?

You vote pandain.

You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable.

And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday:
On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum.

Is sillypants.

IF by some miracle you're town:
(1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice
(2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"?



you're bad if you are town again, reminds me of nuclear. You always try to make town lose for whatever reason
How are you the mislynch of choice? You're not being lynched. You're in third place.

Do you DISAGREE that oats was being set up as a mislynch?


yes I do. once CR spoke up about me only then is when pandain started hard pushing me, so it was either pre meditated or scum team is abusing a newbie which is pretty despicable.

From yesterday I was going to have

CR vote, pandain vote, VE vote, potentially your vote it looks like? and WoS could easily just say "YES POLICY LYNCH TIME"

that's already 5 votes.

It was going to be Oats over you tbh. You might have been wagon 2 together with Padain. I was paying attention on who was the prime lynch candidate.
I need to revisit the argumens made early night one about either WoS or Oats being last banger. But too tired atm.
He shot the dude's scumread. Isn't super sure how to read him. etc. etc. But VA might have been a #2 lynch the next day. Maybe.


This is how I post basically. It might be extra special because I think VA is a qtpie.

ATOBTTR
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 07 2013 02:33 GMT
#4455
I'm slaving away in the kitchen ALL DAY for you oats. ALL DAY (if you're town).

And you don't even notice one of the beautiful garnishes.

I FRIED THAT PARSLEY FOR YOU. I FRIED THAT PARSLEY AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.

WHY DO I EVEN FRY PARSLEY ANYMORE FOR YOU?
Fe fi fo fum.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 02:36 GMT
#4456
At least I have chicken.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 02:43 GMT
#4457
s0l you never responded to that baby seal pic I sent you. IT WAS JUST FOR YOU
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:46 GMT
#4458
On October 07 2013 11:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
s0l you never responded to that baby seal pic I sent you. IT WAS JUST FOR YOU


yea well you never responded to me asking you to provide, succinctly, the scum motivation for doing what I'm doing right now.

if i recall you were talking about it earlier and just ended up with FFFFUUUUUU
ATOBTTR
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 07 2013 02:48 GMT
#4459
On October 07 2013 11:46 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 11:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
s0l you never responded to that baby seal pic I sent you. IT WAS JUST FOR YOU


yea well you never responded to me asking you to provide, succinctly, the scum motivation for doing what I'm doing right now.

if i recall you were talking about it earlier and just ended up with FFFFUUUUUU


I can't figure out the scum motive. They were all bad / dumb. Fortunately, I know that scum can be dumb / bad
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 07 2013 02:50 GMT
#4460
On October 07 2013 11:48 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 11:46 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 07 2013 11:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
s0l you never responded to that baby seal pic I sent you. IT WAS JUST FOR YOU


yea well you never responded to me asking you to provide, succinctly, the scum motivation for doing what I'm doing right now.

if i recall you were talking about it earlier and just ended up with FFFFUUUUUU


I can't figure out the scum motive. They were all bad / dumb. Fortunately, I know that scum can be dumb / bad


Bolded is the operative phrase. I have SOME motivation as required by the laws of the universe. If there's no scum motivation, then that leaves....

Also, I like how you leave out the possibility of dumb town.
ATOBTTR
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