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cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 02:02:04
October 06 2013 01:59 GMT
#3801
On October 06 2013 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 10:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 10:43 cakepie wrote:
On October 06 2013 10:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
or green. Can i post PMs from other players?


No timestamps; no direct quoting, may paraphrase/discuss.


So he can't just copy/paste the text?

I'm pretty sure that's what 'no direct quoting' means.



This. Okay to talk about what was discussed. No direct copy-and-paste of anything.


Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 06 2013 02:00 GMT
#3802
Host: You may now PM with S0lstice

S0lstice: im 99% sure you are mafia. enough flirting. i am your cousin from across town, we need to work together if either of us are to win.

Me: Lol

S0lstice: can you follow instructions?

Me: Okay im maf what do i do

S0lstice: standby

a long time passes, i decide to stop fucking with him and out

me: im town Lol u fucked up
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 06 2013 02:03 GMT
#3803
Well, looks like an easy win for town lol. Do we think that solstice is the last banger or is he in the other mafia team?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 06 2013 02:03 GMT
#3804
still working so yeah, just wanted to get the scumclaim out there asap.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 06 2013 02:03 GMT
#3805
brb 1 hr fuck job
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:05 GMT
#3806
On October 06 2013 11:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
Well, looks like an easy win for town lol. Do we think that solstice is the last banger or is he in the other mafia team?

Does it matter?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 06 2013 02:08 GMT
#3807
hihi
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 06 2013 02:11 GMT
#3808
eh then it doesnt really get what I was after. I wanted to cross analyze the PM'ing with how solstice speaks but looks like its worthless under the rules

need to calculate if this is worth it for mafia or not...

so 7 town 4 scum left. if this supposed pay phone is fake then there's up to 3 or 4 KP tomorrow. nah not worth it to trade 1 for 1 here. Especially since they wouldn't know if solstice is scum or not.

##unvote

##vote:solstice
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:13 GMT
#3809
The other thing I think is important to mention is that this in no way confirms CC if Solstice flips red.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 06 2013 02:14 GMT
#3810
##unvote
##vote: solstice


Looks pretty clear who our lynch should be.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#3811
On October 06 2013 11:14 Chairman Ray wrote:
##unvote
##vote: solstice


Looks pretty clear who our lynch should be.

Answer my question CR.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#3812
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...

6-3-1 or 7-3.

In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.

In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.

So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:15 GMT
#3813
Also you haven't responded to anything I wrote about you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#3814
On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...

6-3-1 or 7-3.

In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.

In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.

So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.

Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own?
Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 02:19 GMT
#3815
On October 06 2013 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...

6-3-1 or 7-3.

In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.

In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.

So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.

Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own?
Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place.
I don't think that team does. There's a team with ONE dude. At best he can kingmake or something IF we screw up, but I don't think he has a good chance of getting a win unless people let him. Right?

Even 3-3-1. He has to lynch town. 2-3-1. He shoots town or mafia, either, 1-3-1 or 1-2-1. In that case, the other mafia team can lynch him and shoot the townie to win if it's 1-3-1, or can ... force a no lynch, then shoot him while he shoots them, leaving it town vs. (one dude from 3 man team).

He has no chance to win. The other team has as much KP as he does AND they control the lynch. Even if he shoots them, they have even numbers always and can win, barring Koshi not dying and not getting blocked and shooting someone from the 3 man team? And any sort of "townies living" scenario, vests or koshi saves, does NOT help the 1 man scumteam, he's just too far behind.
Fe fi fo fum.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#3816
On October 06 2013 11:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 11:03 Chairman Ray wrote:
Well, looks like an easy win for town lol. Do we think that solstice is the last banger or is he in the other mafia team?

Does it matter?


I would prefer to lynch the solo banger over the other team, but I think a confirmed scum is probably better than risking it.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
October 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#3817
I really dont know why Scum would try to contact other team. it fits with solstice talking about mafia contacting each other.

seems like mafia is better off vesting ot weeding or something..
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 06 2013 02:23 GMT
#3818
On October 06 2013 11:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...

6-3-1 or 7-3.

In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.

In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.

So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.

Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own?
Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place.
I don't think that team does. There's a team with ONE dude. At best he can kingmake or something IF we screw up, but I don't think he has a good chance of getting a win unless people let him. Right?

Even 3-3-1. He has to lynch town. 2-3-1. He shoots town or mafia, either, 1-3-1 or 1-2-1. In that case, the other mafia team can lynch him and shoot the townie to win if it's 1-3-1, or can ... force a no lynch, then shoot him while he shoots them, leaving it town vs. (one dude from 3 man team).

He has no chance to win. The other team has as much KP as he does AND they control the lynch. Even if he shoots them, they have even numbers always and can win, barring Koshi not dying and not getting blocked and shooting someone from the 3 man team? And any sort of "townies living" scenario, vests or koshi saves, does NOT help the 1 man scumteam, he's just too far behind.

Once again you're assuming that the scumteams have each other figured out in this scenario.
I don't know why you make that assumption.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 02:25 GMT
#3819
Lone dude either loses or helps the other team and still loses. Tell me if you find one that doesn't involve people making stupid decisions, but I do not think that he can actually win.

Unsure if contact makes sense or not. They NEED to work together at this point, to have a CHANCE of winning, but really what they need is just like...one or two mislynches and to NOT lose the one-man scumteam.

If solstice is the one-man team, that would mean that the snb/palmar team shot Hiro (if we assume someone is using mason as a partial KP item, not in liue of ACTUAL KP, at which case it wouldn't make any sense to me to pass on a KP when you need EVERY dead townie you can get). solstice could mason the 3 man team and tell them he's going to help?

If he's 3 man team, they're scouting the one-man team....and I guess they can just go with their scummiest read? To see if he's down to help?

I don't....I don't love this. He gets this PM, knows solstice is mafia, but doesn't post in thread yet because he's trying to bait? But then solstice doesn't respond after a couple hours, so he comes to thread now?

Cheese, why now? Why not continue to the bait?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#3820
On October 06 2013 11:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 11:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 11:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 11:15 austinmcc wrote:
neato. If this is real, that could change some things. Right now we're 7-3-1. If Cheese IS mafia and solstice is bait, could be...

6-3-1 or 7-3.

In the 6-3-1 case, given that we only saw 1 KP last night, we assume SOMEONE used drive by, and there will be 3 KP out there. Scum shoot VE and two people they think don't have vests, take numbers to 3-3-1. Tell the other scummer to let their team win, not town, lynch Koshi 4-3, and win the game.

In the 7-3 case, max of 2 KP. Doesn't make sense.

So...there IS a chance that if this is a ploy and solstice is town, we lynch him and lose IF scum hit unvested targets and avoid the bus? But I think that can only happen if solstice is town and if the other mafia team cooperates.

Why would they cooperate if they still have a chance to win on their own?
Initiating the contact makes no sense to me in the first place.
I don't think that team does. There's a team with ONE dude. At best he can kingmake or something IF we screw up, but I don't think he has a good chance of getting a win unless people let him. Right?

Even 3-3-1. He has to lynch town. 2-3-1. He shoots town or mafia, either, 1-3-1 or 1-2-1. In that case, the other mafia team can lynch him and shoot the townie to win if it's 1-3-1, or can ... force a no lynch, then shoot him while he shoots them, leaving it town vs. (one dude from 3 man team).

He has no chance to win. The other team has as much KP as he does AND they control the lynch. Even if he shoots them, they have even numbers always and can win, barring Koshi not dying and not getting blocked and shooting someone from the 3 man team? And any sort of "townies living" scenario, vests or koshi saves, does NOT help the 1 man scumteam, he's just too far behind.

Once again you're assuming that the scumteams have each other figured out in this scenario.
I don't know why you make that assumption.
I'm assuming that because, even in the BEST CASE SCENARIO for mafia (they know each other with 100% accuracy), the one-man team can't win. A situation with less knowledge is never superior for the one-man team as far as I can tell. So I'm assuming that because with the deck stacked as much as possible towards the 1 man team (the 3 man team knows him 100% and will not shoot him accidentally), he can't win.
Fe fi fo fum.
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