Thug Life Mini Mafia - Page 189

On October 06 2013 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I agree with Austin's take - being less inclined to include you Wave as scum, myself. But I'm not sure.

Austin, what makes CC scum to you?

On October 06 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:

If Palmar was saved - as in, if FT came back and voted and we all switched back onto FT, then there's absolutely no harm in saying that he wanted to save Palmar. I said it myself Wave, he could just be like "Yeah well VE said it too why are you suspicious of me for it?"

Obviously they couldn't have known one way or the other and I agree that it seems unlikely...but not impossible and certainly not above consideration.

On October 06 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
You asked if I agreed/disagreed with you that he's scum - I said I agreed with his scumreads with clarification.

Pretty sure I answered your question. Unless there was more?

On October 06 2013 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I agree with Austin's take - being less inclined to include you Wave as scum, myself. But I'm not sure.

Austin, what makes CC scum to you?

Oats too cheery and too playful with Palmar on D1 to be on that team. Cheesecake's post was BUTT because IF oats is town, that's exactly what mafia needs to do. Point to all the times oats utters the word "Palmar", without adding any context, and without realizing that HOLY CRAP THAT'S A LOT OF MENTIONS AND A LOT OF DIRECT ASSOCIATION AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT A TEAM. I think it's low-hanging fruit that, when picked, tastes like poopoo fruit. And cheesecake picked that poopoo fruit and tried to feed it to you. Don't eat the poopoo fruit. Oats probably town, maybe mafia, but overall just not what should happen TOMORROW, and not on Palmar's team.

On October 06 2013 09:42 austinmcc wrote:
In between ROLLING with top udyr.

Limited options + EXPLICITLY that one post I keep quoting.

Scum need mislynches. I thought oats was town. I know a lot of people didn't. But now you KNOW oats is town. Go back to yesterday and read it. You can SEE him being set up as a mislynch. You can smell it, taste it, feel it, see it.

Cheesecake's post was the most offensive of ANY anti-oats post, because it was just pure I WANT TO LYNCH THIS GUY.

If that makes sense, he's not concerned with going through oats's filter and calling oats scum based on x and y but not z, no critical thought, no nothing. It's just going into oats's filter and VOMITING half his posts into a giant list.

He just grabs "Oats mentions Palmar." Doesn't consider whether that makes Oats town or scum or Palmarbud or anything, he just WANTS Oats to look scummy.

If you look at yesterday, and at the people attacking oats, SOME OF THEM ARE TOWN. But SOME OF THEM ARE MAFIA. Out of every post on oats that I remember, that was the single scummiest post out there.

And again, generic crap like "someone has to be" + "nothing giving me a beefy townread on him"

On October 06 2013 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh. Weird way of answering it I guess.
You don't find it odd in the slightest that Austin answers everything I bring up as long as it has nothing to do with him being scum, in which case he acts as though it didn't exist?
You don't find my scenario in which he was trying to set me up for a while plausible?

On October 06 2013 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah also that reminds me....
I'm not going to use this as something to help me push my case on Austin but that question he asked to mods in thread seemed like a question scum could ask to seem towny.

Jes' sayin'.

On October 06 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
So, here's a thing. s0lstice thinks I'm slimy/used car salesman-y. You think I'm not answering your scumread.

Here's the thing. I haven't had a solid town game in a bit. My townreads on SP/FT/oats ALL being mislynches were correct. I wanted to lynch Palmar yesterday, he was mafia. If s0lstice if mafia (dunno for sure yet), I've been right on all my votes and on identifying mislynch wagons.

How would you feel if a large chunk of your reads, and especially some of your reads on mislynches, had been correct? And you were alive? And you hadn't had a nice solid towngame in a while? AND you felt like the game was nearly solved?

You would feel good. You wouldn't care if someone calls you scum because: (1) you know you're not; (2) you think your scumlist is solid at this point; (3) you don't think you're going to get lynched even if a couple people think you're scum (especially because some of the people pushing you must be scum by elimination, and you think those people will die before you do, making the suspicion on you at least partly scum-pushed); (4) even if you GET mislynched, you played a really good game and your mislynch sort of seals the deal for town, because you have been working from good reads all game, so maybe your lategame reads are good.

As an example of (4), I was looking for people trying to mislynch oats yesterday, because I thought he was town. If you thought he was scum, you may not have been seeing some things in the same light. So because I've been working from a good base (so far), I trust my current reads to be good to sexy, and if I get lynched, there are good to sexy reads for town to follow and trust. So...whether I live or get mislynched, it doesn't matter a BOATLOAD to me. I think town has this game, I think whether I'm alive or dead town has this game, and I think I had a couple days in this game that I can be proud of. I'm just not worried with a scumread on me.

If you found yourself in THAT scenario, the very specific scenario. Would you care if someone was trying to intimate that you were scum? Or could be scum? It's making me a bit obnoxious, because it's gone from having fun and trying to promote good atmosphere with earlier silly posts to now kind of being a little dickish about it, but still in my head promoting a good town atmosphere because I'm town and some of the people I'm being dickish too (VA) are likely mafia.

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Yurp. Because it's a townie thing to want to know! However, it doesn't make me town at all. It's entirely null, cuz either side should be asking that.

On October 06 2013 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:

I agreed with some things CC brought up against Oats (even though I may have brought them up first?).
What makes his posting on the matter so much more egregious? I'm curious because much like a lot of the stuff you've posted, I don't quite see the distinction.

On October 06 2013 10:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WTF DID I DIE?

On October 06 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote:
##Vote WoS



I like what Austin/VE said and they convinced me WoS is substantially related to palmar in fact ignored him.


Also Koshi no. I several times advocated FT over Palmar just because the host made a mistake doesn't mean I'm scum