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On October 06 2013 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 08:27 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 08:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm here. Sup? How you feel about cc/VA/CR/(WoS or solstice) And...wos or solstice? Any major thoughts? This post makes me wonder. Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.
Out of the surviving players, we still have:
Koshi
VisceraEyes
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
raynpelikoneet
Chairman Ray
WaveofShadow
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Pandain
s0lstice
With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.
Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.
I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.
So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.
##Vote: VayneAuthority Like - there aren't a WHOLE lot of options, but you think bussing is the option he'd be choosing right now? I didn't want to jump on that "other mafia" bit, although...it's not wonderful.
I think it's an odd first assumption (although a good strategy since they're combating so many confirmed towns at this point). (Hear that mafia, bus. Bus hard. Do it).
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Thing is, after this whole bit today I honestly believe VA is super mafia.
Which means CR in the last banger slot, not WoS, and probably WoS town/solstice mafia.
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(Because while I think bussing is a good idea right now I don't think CR is talking about bussing while ACTUALLY bussing teammates VA, and I don't like VA for MCB).
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On October 06 2013 08:17 Koshi wrote:
Yeah must mixed things up a bit. Thought he was saving both Palmar and FT quite hard but it was weak on Palmar and strong on FT. But a while back there is a quote Pandain also could lynch palmar.
There is a lot of VA pushing though.
I am needing rayn on this one. Koshi, while Pandain was slightly waffly in that he said he'd lynch Palmar but also wanted to lynch VA instead, he DID do this:On October 05 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Palmar
##Unvote
##Vote VA
There now he should be in the lead
At the time, he thought the unvote/vote would mean Palmar led the tie between FT and Palmar. Effectively, by voting Palmar and unvoting, he was giving Palmar the edge as the lynch stood, while still maintaining his lynch on VA.
I read Pandain's D3 as legitimately wanting to lynch VA over Palmar, and don't think that vote comes from a Palmar scumbuddy.
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except nobody is saying that pandain is a motor city banger so nobody cares about that
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I'm back and caught up: I was reading while I was out.
I have to go back and look over some stuff though because I couldn't really post and there as some stuff I wanted to point out.
Gimme a few and then we can do question/answer time Austin.
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On October 06 2013 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
except nobody is saying that pandain is a motor city banger so nobody cares about that Koshi's specific mentions of Pandain defending Palmar being one of the things he's thinking about indicates that he's scummy on the Pandain/Palmar interactions.
Which would most likely indicate he was thinking Pandain on Palmar's team.
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yea I already corrected him of that last page -_-
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Thanks for the confirm Koshi
##vote CC
VE is also being a bit odd.
Why does CR need to bus, VE?
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So then why am I mafia if I also defended a townie
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On October 06 2013 08:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm back and caught up: I was reading while I was out.
I have to go back and look over some stuff though because I couldn't really post and there as some stuff I wanted to point out.
Gimme a few and then we can do question/answer time Austin. Gonna play an lol game or two with a friend, will check in after.
Mainly...I'm not entirely sure, cuz I can't ask you what I ask VE.
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On October 06 2013 07:04 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol what? that spoilered post doesnt answer my question at all.
and if you honestly expect me to believe that scumteams dont argue in thread then you must be thinking your talking to chairman ray or something.
I just spent half of golden sun arguing about shit with grackaroni and we were both scum. Your question doesn't need answering. You want to know why x and y make Pandain town. Your post presumes that my townread is based on that. I don't care about that at all. He's town for the reasons in my filter. You KNOW if read my filter that I think he's town, and I think he's town for different reasons. No. It doesn't answer you question. Because your question is "Why do you think x makes pandain town?" When it turns out I don't care about x at all, and you'd know that if you read my filter.
See, this.
Vayne talks about thsi too, but Austin is specifically avoiding arguing about things he doesn't feel like addressing.
Like me scumread on him. Hasn't addressed it all whatsoever.
On October 06 2013 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
and that you don't care about it is precisely why you are scum, intentionally avoiding incriminating evidence to protect your ally.this isn't rocket science
Yup.
Alrighty some posting from CR:
On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.
Out of the surviving players, we still have:
Koshi
VisceraEyes
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
raynpelikoneet
Chairman Ray
WaveofShadow
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Pandain
s0lstice
With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.
Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.
I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.
So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.
##Vote: VayneAuthority
The bolded. So I'm a townread as well as Austin, but now only CC/Austin are gamechanging mislynches? Is this because you don't think I'm as strong a townie or you don't actually think I'm town? Mind clearing that up?
Then another long post from CR but no actual reasoning as to why VA must be scum. Sorry CR, not good enough yet. I want more.
Onto VA:
On October 06 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:46 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 07:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at
oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3 On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects. Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do? You vote pandain. You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable. And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday: On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum. Is sillypants. IF by some miracle you're town: (1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice (2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"? you're bad if you are town again, reminds me of nuclear. You always try to make town lose for whatever reason How are you the mislynch of choice? You're not being lynched. You're in third place. Do you DISAGREE that oats was being set up as a mislynch? yes I do. once CR spoke up about me only then is when pandain started hard pushing me, so it was either pre meditated or scum team is abusing a newbie which is pretty despicable. From yesterday I was going to have CR vote, pandain vote, VE vote, potentially your vote it looks like? and WoS could easily just say "YES POLICY LYNCH TIME" that's already 5 votes.
This is so stupid. I was clearly and very obviously going after Oats today, and still would be if not for Koshi. What makes you think I would have changed my mind? I still stand by what I said about Oats' play; the check is literally the only thing holding me back. Oats has been useless this game. More so than usual.
There are much better mislynch targets than you, and I kinda figured I was going ot be one of them but it seems as though Austin realized I may not be as easy a mislynch as he originally though, dohohohoho.
Austin I will not give up on getting you to discuss that I think you're scum.
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On October 06 2013 08:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thanks for the confirm Koshi
##vote CC
VE is also being a bit odd.
Why does CR need to bus, VE?
You are one lucky sonofabitch, though I must admit the 'blow your mind' comment did seem particularly towny---wasn't gonna change my mind though.
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On October 06 2013 08:38 austinmcc wrote:
Thing is, after this whole bit today I honestly believe VA is super mafia.
Which means CR in the last banger slot, not WoS, and probably WoS town/solstice mafia.
This...this just seems so fucking ridiculous.
Does nobody share the sentiment with me that there is no fucking way in hell CR would blatantly state that he wants to save Palmar if they were on the same scumteam?
I also find it funny (again VA and I agreeing on a lot for this half of the game....shudder) that Austin is still pretty damn set on discovering who is on what scumteam when it is clearly going to be way more difficult than we originally thought.
OH that reminds me, something CR said:
On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.
Out of the surviving players, we still have:
Koshi
VisceraEyes
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
raynpelikoneet
Chairman Ray
WaveofShadow
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Pandain
s0lstice
With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.
Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.
I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.
So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.
##Vote: VayneAuthority
The bolded.
CR may be revealed to not be reading the thread here. I was pretty convinced that overall we had just decided to find scum and ditch the '3rd banger' bit, aside from Austin.
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On October 06 2013 08:45 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 08:17 Koshi wrote:
Yeah must mixed things up a bit. Thought he was saving both Palmar and FT quite hard but it was weak on Palmar and strong on FT. But a while back there is a quote Pandain also could lynch palmar.
There is a lot of VA pushing though.
I am needing rayn on this one. Koshi, while Pandain was slightly waffly in that he said he'd lynch Palmar but also wanted to lynch VA instead, he DID do this: Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Palmar
##Unvote
##Vote VA
There now he should be in the lead At the time, he thought the unvote/vote would mean Palmar led the tie between FT and Palmar. Effectively, by voting Palmar and unvoting, he was giving Palmar the edge as the lynch stood, while still maintaining his lynch on VA. I read Pandain's D3 as legitimately wanting to lynch VA over Palmar, and don't think that vote comes from a Palmar scumbuddy.
Yeah I know, but this was 2 hours before lynch and a great way to distance yourself from scumbuddy. I know we want to kill last banger but this isnt enough to not want to lynch Pandain.
This game is hard. I cant find 4 scummers. CC, s0lstice, Pandain seem the easy candidates. But the 4th is a mistery to me. And it's not like CC and S0l are.that scummy. It's the rest being so townie. Pandain too much acivity and almost no content. I dont like it. Need to kill.
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Reach for the moon, Wos (lynching the 3rd banger), and sometimes you'll land amongst the stars (lynching scum even if you don't get the MCB).
I'm not ditching it. You're not magically required to find him, but it sure seems silly not to think about it.
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VE if you're around I'd like to talk about Austin; your earlier clarification question seemed to hint at you not agreeing with me about him being scum.
Also who are your 4 atm?
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On October 06 2013 08:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thanks for the confirm Koshi
##vote CC
VE is also being a bit odd.
Why does CR need to bus, VE?
I was aiming for scum tbh.
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I agree with Austin's take - being less inclined to include you Wave as scum, myself. But I'm not sure.
Austin, what makes CC scum to you?
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On October 06 2013 09:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 08:38 austinmcc wrote:
Thing is, after this whole bit today I honestly believe VA is super mafia.
Which means CR in the last banger slot, not WoS, and probably WoS town/solstice mafia. This...this just seems so fucking ridiculous. Does nobody share the sentiment with me that there is no fucking way in hell CR would blatantly state that he wants to save Palmar if they were on the same scumteam?
If Palmar was saved - as in, if FT came back and voted and we all switched back onto FT, then there's absolutely no harm in saying that he wanted to save Palmar. I said it myself Wave, he could just be like "Yeah well VE said it too why are you suspicious of me for it?"
Obviously they couldn't have known one way or the other and I agree that it seems unlikely...but not impossible and certainly not above consideration.
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