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On September 27 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I feel obliged to add: not with Palmar. Palmar's usually able to tell with pretty stunning accuracy what alignment I have. I'm talking about players like Yamato who call me scum for everything under the sun, incorrectly. Not that he's always incorrect, but....it feels that way right?
I haven't called you scum this game yet.
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I know I'm shocked - and slightly suspicious. 
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On September 27 2013 08:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure what I'm looking for here, he didn't react at all. What specifically makes you think that we're seeing mafia here rather than townie who is slightly more comfortable reading you by virtue of having just completed a game with you? I guess It makes sense that he thinks he's more comfortable reading me now. He wasn't nearly as aggressive towards me when I made posts like this last game and it feels forced to me that he's so jumpy about my posts this game. The cases are forced, nothing about my random lynch is alignment indicative it was something I planned to do pre-game when I saw Palmar was playing. This is like the third time you point to something in your behavior is inconsistent with being mafia and therefore you cannot possibly be mafia. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 08:05 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 27 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I think the people that are vehemently against random lynches aren't against them because they think I am trying to avoid analysis. They are likely afraid of the random lynch. It is so much easier for mafia to pressure a less experienced player and push the lynch off their team and on to that player. Then why isn't your vote on someone who has opposed your idea out of hand? Show me a game where I vote someone early on as town, I don't know off hand if I have but I really doubt there is one. It's not my style. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 06:10 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 06:09 Koshi wrote:
I got no problem lynching Grack. hah. I actually would be less inclined to propose a random lynch as mafia because I'm more comfortable being in control of the lynch. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 08:05 Grackaroni wrote:
(Not intended to be insulting but instructive)
Chairman Ray has been mislynched twice in a row as town day1
FirmTofu as well has had the lynch pushed on to him several times as town day 1.
This is what mafia are comfortable doing, not random lynching.
Aditionally you are taking all of these out of context.
The first one is to help strengthen why I think Koshi's cases are forced/worse than I would expect from him as town.
The 2nd one is just a natural response. If I accused someone of being scum for sheeping and the player normally sheeps they would just say that is how they play as town.
3rd one is full defense.
The one on the bottom wasn't for defending myself it was how I thought scum would react to the idea of random lynching.
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I didn't say you were defending you, I was just pointing out a pattern, the context is irrelevant.
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Agreed. Regardless of how it was meant, the sentiment is the same: you point out things scum do, they're things you're not doing....or point out things scum won't do, they're things you're doing. Not that only scum defend themselves in this way, it's just worth mentioning the frequency with which it's happening.
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Where did Koshi amble off to?
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On September 27 2013 06:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 06:31 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 06:29 yamato77 wrote:On September 27 2013 06:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sounds like a case of scummy-not-remembering-what-bullshit-I-spewed to me.
##Vote: Yamato
You want a real game? Let's play a real game. VE, I'll explain this to you in simple steps. Him claiming scum does not make him scum, and is not a good reason to vote for him. What he's done since is another matter. Him claiming scum doesn't make him tow, either. The tell is not absolute. And what is it in your mind that makes you believe pushing random lynches is a scum trait? Prior experience? It's more the part that you are not trying to find scum and are just bantering away like a mofo. I made that mistake in GoT. Townies try to find scum. Not do what you are doing.
On September 27 2013 07:44 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
lol you guys are so cute, that part was me trolling. I realize that nobody is going to follow a random lynch of a target deliberately chosen by me because that's not random. Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 07:40 Grackaroni wrote:On September 27 2013 07:37 yamato77 wrote:
we ARE NOT RANDOM LYNCHING
suggesting it does nothing
seriously stfu and find scum don't fight the random lynch. Ease into it and we'll all be happier! On September 27 2013 07:38 Koshi wrote:
Ok so with the most analytical masterminds in the game we are going to random lynch?
Hilarious. Lots of analysis comes from random lynches. The lynch doesn't just fall into place when somebody is RNG'd what happens when a person is randomly selected. how will people react. will people flip-flop or will they go through with their vote. Could lead to one of the most informative days 1s ever. Ok. So not trolling then. Can't even keep story straight 2 hours in the game. ##vote Grackaroni
And what is your opinion of the cases that Koshi has used for me being scum so far. (Pushing random lynch = scum + contradiction case)
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I don't like it, but I'm interested to hear what he has to say when more has happened.
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@Palmar, I would have expected you to try to push for a random lynch even though I was getting flak for doing it. You've done it before without caring about what others thought. Why didn't you?
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I still like the idea, and I don't understand why you think it's dead. Way more than half the game hasn't even posted.
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Because more people will probably vote for me than support my idea lol
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Prepare your anuses.
Reads inc.
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MY BODY IS READY WAVE!!!
MY BODY IS READY!!
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Awaiting with bated breath the posts of someone I don't want to murder.
Palmar seems like the only other sane player ITT.
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Alright here we go.
First of all:
On September 27 2013 05:48 yamato77 wrote:
The only thing that will lose town this game is negative attitudes like that.
In all, seriousness, I as town could catch every player in this game if they were scum, and expect to.
Horseshit.
On September 27 2013 05:49 Koshi wrote:
WoS don't worry this game. Pretty sure you won't get nk night 1. You ain't that good.
Horseshit.
On September 27 2013 05:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 05:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
This will be my only post for a few hours:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Fucking rolled town again. I fucking hate town.
I can't decide whether to play this game fucking hardcore and try to win and then be disappointed in the general stupidity and lurk and then eventually lose and cry, or whether I should just not fucking bother right off the bat. There are a few factors at work here.
Maybe this is great because scum PHEER ME in every game all of a sudden, so once I town the fuck out of everybody in the thread I'll be dead N1. Especially when I don't use my vest. I also KNOW THINGS---many of the people in this thread are also still in Noire, and while I'll have to watch what I say and how I do it, members of this game: know that I KNOW. I will be able to use my knowledge to get things done in this game. Maybe it will make a difference. I know this game is stacked full of power players so one would think that even facing off against 2 strong scumteams that town SHOULD have a chance, but I just don't know if that's true. Above all, I'm just sad that once again, I DON'T HAVE A GODDAMN GUN TO ELIMINATE ALL THE INEVITABLE USELESS SHIT FROM MY MOTHERFUCKING TOWN.
Guess we'll find out what kind of game I feel like playing. I kinda feel like VA in that regard. At least kush isn't in here. God damn this stinks of insincerity and contrivance. But whatever I'll deal with you later sir.
Horseshit.
On September 27 2013 05:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't get what he is talking about when he says he knows stuff about the Noire game. Seems like he is just blowing smoke really which seems more like town WoS.
anyways I see no reason to not vote palmar or grackaroni this phase
Horseshit.
On September 27 2013 07:14 Grackaroni wrote:
lol you guys are so cute, that part was me trolling. I realize that nobody is going to follow a random lynch of a target deliberately chosen by me because that's not random.
Aaaaaaaaand guess what?
+ Show Spoiler +
Now that that's all over with:
I'm not going to go and say my entry post was just some shit to gauge reactions. I mean, in a way it was, but I wasn't lying about any of it. I embellished emotionally a little but VE knows how pissed I am over Noire. Marv does too I think.
Now a couple things that bother me about the responses to my post:
On September 27 2013 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 05:52 Palmar wrote:
Who gave WoS a high horse and why is he on it? He's been dying N1 recently. You remember what that's like - the confidence it temporarily bestows. The question is, is he overplaying it? I think so, but again, I'm willing to see what he's got before making that call ultimately.
This is a decent read imo, albeit a fairly obvious one, as was his first response to my post.
It shows he is at the very least actually thinking rather than resorting to divining my alignment on that one post alone. It shows some effort, more so than he is putting into Noire atm, even it is that sort of D1-troll-fluffpost-with-some-real-shit-thrown-in-effort.
This is an easy post to make from either scum or town perspective and I can't figure VE's alignment based on this alone, especially since he knows me pretty well these days.
VA's read: I'd like to know what exactly that is based on. When do I EVER blow smoke without being at the very least sincere about it? I'm also not sure what's so hard to understand about me knowing stuff regarding Noire. It's not rocket science, VA. I'm dead in that game. What do you think I know?
##Vote: VA
This is a policy vote for now, because I honestly just don't want to deal with you. You decide how you're going to play before a game starts and 95% of the time, however you play doesn't help town at all. GTFO my game.
Grackaroni:
Here's a problem. Grack lied to us, oh yes he did. He got caught in a lie and so tried to pass it off as trolling. The question is, townlie or scumlie? I remember another game in which Grack got caught doing something he shouldn't have, and he was scum. I picked him out for it (even though I rescinded my read and got killed later). Grack it's time to be honest with us, do you support RNG lynch or don't you?
I also have words regarding this RNG business but I'd like to wait to hear Grack's truthful opinion first. I don't give a shit what other people think of RNG right now, or what they think of you. Right now it matters what I think.
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Also I don't approve of hosts telling dead people information, so if that was the case then I am surprised.
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On September 27 2013 11:52 VayneAuthority wrote:
is that a scum claim?
DAT delurk
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Oh another thing I neglected to mention about Grack:
On September 27 2013 05:57 Grackaroni wrote:
WoS's posts at the endgame of golden sun match up with the mindset he's showing here.
This was his reaction to my first post.
A lot less thought put into what essentially amounts to an 'easy' read with no real stance taken. Similar to VE's, yet different.
VE chose to actually try to read me and my actions while Grack simply looked into the last post I made in a thread he was reading that seems to corroborate what isn't even a read.
I don't know, call it a gut thing but even though I don't necessarily like either's reaction to my post, I like Grack's a LOT less.
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On September 27 2013 11:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
Also I don't approve of hosts telling dead people information, so if that was the case then I am surprised.
You have no right to complain about anything.
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