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On October 01 2013 07:39 Zaragon wrote:
The NK was decent, but you being roleblocked and us having a NK at all makes no sense... Unless me and Koshi's attempt to out-meta mafia's NK went terribly wrong and out-metaed someone else too
Could you explain what you were trying to do? I definitely missed something yesterday here, cause I thought it was really bad that you and Koshi were talking about how mafia has to kill stormtemplar.
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Stormtemplar's block first
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Cmooon stormtemplar................
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Well that didn't give us any information at alllllllllllllllllll T_____T
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Ugh
You see, Koshi and I were setting up for you to maybe, hopefully, survive and roleblock Playerboy, in which case if Playerboy is mafia, no one died tonight and we had a confirmed mafia team, basically. We were hinting towards scum to do something unexpected and mess up. What they should have done (if heavenz/playerboy) is kill you using their roleblocker's NK and let the GF sit out
And yes, now we might have to kill you for this I'm afraid and hope it was a scum move
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Of course we would have gotten information... we would have gotten more evidence to accept you as RBer, gotten more information on who scum roleblocker is and possibly caught a mafia/stopped a kill/won the game.
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That doesn't make sense unfortunately. If heavenz/playerboy is the scum team, there would have been no NK and playerboy would be confirmed GF, heavenz basically confirmed Roleblocker.
If a night kill and a roleblock had happened like it did just now but you had told us you roleblocked PLayerboy, it would have made Playerboy confirmed town through you and we would have a big town circle. We would know where to look.
Now you look scummiest of all as a scum roleblocker in a RB/Goon/Goon team instead, and I don't know at all whether it's a scum move or blunder.
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Ok done is done.
JonnyLaw is pretty solid town now, and he was making a pretty good effort at a Stormtemplar/Playerboy case early which just about clears him from a team with STormtemplar.
Likliest scum combinations Stormtemplar/Balla, heavenz/playerboy
Stormtemplar/Heavenz possible but I find the way they set things up early then to be highly unlikely.
Stormemplar/playerboy also unlikely from earlier events.
Looking at other possibilities
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What is your take on the early Stormtemplar accusations?
Do you think this mistake fit with his play earlier?
Would you put him in any scum team?
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I don't like the way Heavenz and Jonnylaw pushed him. Jonnylaw's push was better than Heavenz but to me he didn't do anything scummy. Basically he had one misstep with how he referred to playerboy and they were both on him. MLuneth had some possible real scum moves. I couldn't see how stormtemplar was scummy at that point.
Hmm... I'm not too sure I'll have to look at his filter more. From the top of my head I think it does TBH. Remember day1 he missed the end of the day even when he was under heavy suspicion. I'll come back to this question again.
Even though I think the mistake fits his play, I just can't really imagine a person making multiple mistakes like this. Again, I need to re-read his filter, so yes I would put him in a stormtemplar/heavenz combo. However unlikely, could be just pulling us around. I'm much more inclined to believe a heavenz/playerboy scum combo.
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No it doesn't work... if you ARE part of a scumteam and we get it wrong then it's over.
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It's LYLO. We have to lynch scum right now, and the possible scum teams are pretty mutually exclusive as far as likelihood goes. The plan after that isn't relevant now, so we need to know who is scum and probably who the scum team is.
If we lynch a townie we lose.
At night, you--if you are alive, which I'm not sure you should be--will have a coinflip battle against scum and they will be prepared for the meta game this time. It's not relevant now
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No actually I'm stupid, if we survive after the lynch it means only one mafia left and you can roleblock them if we know who it is, and gg
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What supports you is that you came out quickly when asked, and gave a reasoning for who you had RBed. What goes against you is that you knew a bit about C9++ and could have set up for it. But it was an odd timing for a scum move if so. Also 2 town RBs is 2.5% chance or something silly like that, which, viewed in a vacuum, doens't look good.
I also don't see what choice you would have now if you had fake claimed town RB as scum. You couldn't give evidence for an extra RB tonight, so you had to RB someone (JonnyLaw in that case) to make sure we see a scum RB in the game. Faking a blunder is the mafia move you would have to make, unless you had the guts to pretend RB heavenz or playerboy and be ready to argue when they say they don't have a roleblock notification. Also, if you had pulled that stunt.. it simply wouldn't have worked, becaue 2 RBs and a NK would have been clearly visible in the game. You could fake RB your team mate and real RB someone else, that's about it.
It looks so scummy I don't know how to believe you regardless of if I find you genuinely sorry
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