EPTHow did you come up with a fake claim?
Why did you now say you fake claimed?
None of this is scum to me but just confusing.
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Pandain
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How did you come up with a fake claim? Why did you now say you fake claimed? None of this is scum to me but just confusing. | ||
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Like literally ignore everything regarding this. | ||
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Actually it's more a benefit, you can see how others respond to those arguments and then analyze from there. You should respond less and analyze more. I have 7 pages of filter and I've said probably far more than 30 pages of filter from others. | ||
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I'll help you analyze Oats in like 10 hours I am way too busy with work ATM | ||
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This is what I got out of this | ||
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On September 18 2013 08:51 Grackaroni wrote: What townie gets RB, knows that there was only one RB yesterday and then is curious whether scum could have RB'd Koshi. I'm suspicious of this claim. Can you explain this? | ||
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I also think, sadly to say, that Zealos should be lynched first instead of Kush. I am not as certain after reading kush's filters in other games that he is playing like scum. His play is like his town play. The only thing scummy to me, while incredibally suspicious, is that for some reason he asked if he could claim to the host, and then asked if scum were given fake claims which doesn't make sense to me. However I do believe that post analysis should take precedence over meta-guessing. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:50 Grackaroni wrote: The big post Pandain made about the votes falling in on OP too easily and the lack of people vocally defending OP. Which was true and suspicious. (However I have learned that sometimes townies don't give reasonings as well). The big three are Vayne, Zealos, and Kush. If you think I'm mafia because I made logical points which happened to be unfortunately wrong(but not because of my logic), then I can't really say anything because I did indeed help save BH. I am also way less suspicious of Kush now due to his plethora of contributions lately. In fact, the only thing I really have against him now is that he is having really bad reads as well as his scum slip early on. Also his early spam. However Zealos is guilty of continual lurking, bad reads, and really everything + more than Kush. Zealos is suspicious in innumerable ways, and I'll just point out the ways in which he's been suspicious that you guys haven't noticed. On September 14 2013 06:34 Zealos wrote: Pandain seems town, so I guess I trust you. Whatever :3 ##Vote: Kush Speaks for itself On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote: I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it? ##Predayvote:OP vigipls Ok with him being scum, doesn't make sense from town perspective. Also disagrees with his previous assertion that OP is a "pre day vote". On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote: yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho. Again disagrees. This is okay in itself, townies change opinions and don't have to say why because the thought process is continual rather than in steps, and we don't even see all of those steps. On September 16 2013 20:18 Zealos wrote: I've changed my mind again. If we don't kill OP today, we will look back at the end of the game and be like "How did we let a potential SK or Squm survive when at best they are a survivor" However this post is so suspicious, OP was already going to be lynched, and this is bad reasoning to the extreme. Seems like a bad attempt to justify a lynch. I don't really see a townie justification, and the reasoning for that lynch is just so bad. Finally I will note that his play this gamesharply contrasts with his two last town games(excluding bastard mafia which was an anomoly game anyway with weird roles and post requirements), game of thrones mafia, Paranoia Mafia, while being similar to his mafia play in Magic the Gathering Mafia, although a year ago. Mainly they are different in that Zealos actually tried that game to help figure out stuff; this game there's no real effort. I don't consider his continual accusations of SnB, without any real attempt to get him lynched or convince others, as well as the lack to figure out other people, to disprove my conclusion. I further disagree with PapaSmurf that even if it indicates he's SK that that means we try and lynch scum instead. If anything, we go straight for the SK so we lower the future KP. Furthermore, I note that OP only bandwagoned Zealos when it was himself or Zealos, and so scum would logically choose to save the more experienced player as well as the godfather to boot. Finally, I note that if Zealos turns out to indeed be scum, it helps analyze kush who's been defending him without legitimate reasons and is suspicious as already noted. If Zealos turns scum , I would assume a Zealos-Kush-BH team as scum with Vayne as the SK. | ||
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Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia. Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:24 Sn0_Man wrote: Cursory analysis of the voting reveals that zealos literally cannot be scum. 3p yes, scum no. I do like how pandain is going after the 3 easiest targets in the thread though. Note how Kush was the preferred mislynch of BH since day1 and most of his reads lined up with Koshi's (who was killed last night). Kush is also confirmed town. Vayne looks bad but he can't be SK and his play looked like SK more than scum to me. Try again panda. I don't know what you mean. I see four town one scum on him day one with mafia gf voting him to save himself. Day two two town and desperate BH. Kush was never pushed by BH, only laid a single vote which never ended up threatening kush. I was the one behind that effort and while acknowledging Kush looked scummy never actually wanted to lynch him or pushed him despite being then clearly suspicious. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Zealos might be SK but i want to lynch scum now because it gives us better connections to the last scum. Zealos is not mafia because of D1 votes. If you think Zealos is sk then lynch him to lower kp. He also can clearly be mafia to day one votes and you ignore context otherwise. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so Zealos is mafia and Blazinghand last minute switches to lynch a scumbuddy instead of lynching town!blubbers? Bullshiiiiitttt.. It's not certain though it might point to him then being SK. I have devoted already too much of my time to this, if you can't see regardless ignoring meta hat Zealos is the best lynch the. I don't have time to convince you. | ||
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